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hopefully we see a push for more prairie intercity rail service with the loss of greyhound. more connections to small centres, but also 200 km/h+ limited stop service between Winnipeg Saskatoon Edmonton and Winnipeg Regina Calgary, as well as connections between the two AB and SK cities.
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Apologies for quoting myself but there's no point re-writing it, I think starting with this would be the better investment: Quote:
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Wut? My 2004 station wagon used to do 600km to a tank no problem. And my current car without a trunk will do over 1000km - why they don't put bigger fuel tanks in cars with trunks is a mystery to me.
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https://m.viarail.ca/sites/all/files..._2017_2021.pdf Canada is in fact ranked 5th, averaging around 560 cars per 1,000 residents, and is even ahead of Germany in the list. Also surprising is the fact that only one other G8 country is ranked higher than Canada, with Italy coming in 4th. Read more at https://www.auto123.com/en/news/cana...ClOyQWQATFi.99 |
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Considering that Canada generally has higher transit mode share and the US has so many more low density auto-dependant areas, I don't believe it. |
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Yes Canada loves its cars, because our rail network is either awful (if you are in Quebec or Ontario) or practically non existent if you are in Calgary, Halifax, Saskatoon, Vancouver or anywhere else. There are many people who would take trains if there was the option to do so, but we can't, because they don't exist. Do you honestly think that anyone in the world looks at Canada and thinks 'ah yes that's the best model of how to build infrastructure, just build one shitty half assed freeway and no railways - let the private sector figure it out?'. Of course not. Normal countries do normal fucking things like investing in their infrastructure. |
I reckon that if we subsidized rail (like in Europe/Asia) to the extent that we subsidized the road network (off the fucking charts), we would have a world-class rail system with perhaps a hundred-fold increase in passenger volume.
Disingenuous Jawagord (who works in the oil industry) strikes again. You've got to be more sly about your unshakeable bias. Or maybe we should completely abandon public transit, rail, etc. and just completely become a car-culture wasteland? Every interesting big city is one that has great transit, as that permits the densities that make interesting possible. Who the hell goes to Houston except for business? The car-dominated cities, and the parts of cities dominated by cars are automatically the least interesting places. |
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We have to get away from the idea that money spent on roads is an investment and on anything else is a subsidy. The cost of running cars and providing infrastructure for them to operate on needs to be made evident to the car driving public. And yes, I do drive, I do fly and yes I do take the train and I too worked in the oil patch for a short period of time. |
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1. The urban population has grown but there is no attempt to improve rail service, only more cut backs. 2 Nobody is going to ride a train that is only going to operate 2 or 3 times a week or in many cases not operate at all. Few people will ride a train if it is not daily or if there is not multiple frequencies. The Toronto-Ottawa service has expanded over the years from 4 trains per day to 10 trains per day. Passenger volumes and revenue have increased higher than costs in spite of CN not running trains on time for Via Rail. 3. Very few of the passengers in the corridor are foreign tourists, most being students to business people to regular people in spite of your claim. If you are talking about western Canada or the Maritimes you are more correct. Most people want to take a train to a nearby large city and come back the same day or the next day which is impossible especially in the west. 4. Nobody is can ride a train that doesn't service the larger population centres between the metropolitan cities.[/QUOTE] Quote:
We should not be waiting for 40 years to go by with out doing anything. We may never get to true HSR but at least HFR is a start and in the east and west at least additional services would be a start. Maybe the federal government should be taking care of it own responsibilities rather than paying for urban transit which is a function of the provinces and the cities or at least direct some money to capital improvements to Via Rail. |
I found his comment quite odd as well. His location is listed as Calgary so that would explain it. VIA is quite well used by the general population in "The Corridor".
Hell Cobourg has, roughly, 5-9 trains daily to each Ottawa, Montreal, and Toronto. |
Via, or some equivalent, needs a lot of work in Canada. We have a lot of potential, but due to the rails being torn up or prioritized for freight, we are hobbled. And losing one of the main regional money makers to another company certainly doesn't help (GO Transit).
A combined Train/bus service company would probably be the way to go and grow. We certainly need to focus on the regions, but also provide regular usuable links between those regions too. Maybe instead of 1 National transport company, Via should become a brand with regional companies that focus locally? (and can apply for federal and provincial funding appropriately?) The Maritimes for example should have rail service between the core cities with rails already (SJ/Moncton/Halifax), and bus service to the other cities (Freddy, Edmundston, Charlottetown, Sydney). Moncton to Riviere de Loup should be the main link between the Maritimes to the Gaspe/Eastern Quebec region. (Which in turn would link RdL to Quebec City and the Corridor) Others more familiar with the other regions would be better to describe, but Alberta should basically be its own region, as should BC, Sask/Manitoba and Northern Ontario might be too big to link together, but might be best to work as a big region. Anyways, just spitballing some ideas to try and figure out what might work. Certainly each region has issues and different needs. Via Rail might just be covering too big of a region to properly service all of Canada with the way it is set up now. |
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