[Halifax] Barrington Espace | ? m | 5 fl | Completed
This is a redevelopment of 3 historic buildings at 1652, 1656, and 1662 Barrington Street (former Sam the Record Man).
Details are here: http://www.starfishproperties.ca/bar...ngton_pres.pdf The developer mentioned in Allnovascotia that he wants to have tenants in the redeveloped buildings by the end of the summer this year - sounds like work is to begin shortly. |
Hopefully there will be many more similar redevelopment projects taking place in the near future. I am looking forward to seeing the NFB building plans - hopefully renderings will be out soon. There are many under-utilized buildings in the downtown core that could be used for office and residential redevelopment.
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Yes, so far it seems like the HbD process is much faster. There are also some new incentives to promote development along Barrington, along with some more controls governing how new buildings can be done.
For a small project like this, getting some government money and getting approved in a few months instead of a few years probably makes a huge difference. I hope we do see a bunch of other similar developments - there's the Keith Building, Roy Building, Masonic Hall, Tip Top Tailors building which may be sold, Discovery Centre... |
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I was hoping HRM by design would be faster. |
I wonder who or what was responsible for this delay.
Have a look at this: http://www.halifax.ca/boardscom/hac/Agendas.html Two Heritage Advisory meetings since Feb 11, three cancelled, two due to lack of quorum. |
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I mean when will people learn that timing is a big part of developments. The longer it takes to get approved the greater the chances the market can change. Then of course there is extra carrying costs (not always). So far the HRM is slow with the barrington street developments. Lets hope things are faster for developments else wheres |
Passed very quickly tonight.
The HAC should be dissolved if they cannot get quorum at meetings. |
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Why not alter the purpose of this planning committee to include heritage matters if in downtown? |
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I mean looking at the below page the members haven't even updated the minutes for 2010 yet, let alone for a few months in 2009. http://www.halifax.ca/boardscom/Dist12PAC/Agendas.html |
The committees are pretty obviously messed up. I don't know why HRM council was voting on this either - we don't need 23+ people to rubber stamp a simple development.
The HAC could have a role making high-level planning recommendations but it's excessive to have them weigh in on every project. That being said, I am pretty optimistic about Barrington at this point. The Sam the Record Man space has been empty for years. I'll be really happy if and when the NFB building gets fixed up. The one big thing that is worrisome is the Roy Building plan - hopefully we won't see a 5 year delay and then a pile of rubble... |
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I wish we could see projects like this (see link) with the NFB, albeit there isn't a lane way or front yard to use. The material choice and design elements i believe would make for a very exciting project. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=140671 |
Looks nice, although it seems very similar to the NFB proposal, aside from the fact that it's for a different type of site. The NFB proposal seems nice and will also include a new housing on Argyle (too bad the Neptune didn't have the same kind of mixed-use design when it was built.. I've always thought it would be nicer with a few floors of residential on top).
We might also see some changes for CD Plus and the Carsand-Mosher building. I don't think it would take a lot to make the street look vastly better than it does now. |
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I checked the minutes, and this was recommended by the HAC back on February 11th. Seems odd they had so many meetings scheduled for March... my understanding is that these types of committees usually are composed of volunteers, and are expected to meet once a month. |
Allnovascotia is reporting that this project should get started next month and will take until the end of the fall to complete.
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How long did the process take start to finish, once it was formally presented to HRM for approval? It wasn't overly speedy no, but it's got to be a HUGE improvement over the previous approval times, and this is the first project to go through HRMbyDesign, so let's hope this is a first run hiccup.
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Apparently the goal is a 60 day approval process, which seems pretty reasonable. Not sure how long it actually took, but it is an improvement over the old system and I could see it getting a bit better in the future as people figure things out.
One thing I wonder, however, is how this would have turned out in a "worst case" proposal. This development is small and innocuous. What would have happened if there had been a development proposed for one of the bigger HbD-sanctioned sites? That is where things really fell apart with the old system. |
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