^ Yeah, some of the new "cheap" car models look interesting.

The new Sonata Turbo from Hyundai, it looks pretty damn good in my opinion:

http://images.thetruthaboutcars.com/...nata-Turbo.jpg

http://autoweek.com/galleryimage/CW/...ata-Turbo4.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_D52XcATHzo...nata-turbo.jpg

or the Kia Optima, doesn't look bad at all for being even more of an automotive laughingstock than Hyundai was before:

http://media.il.edmunds-media.com/ki...902102_815.jpg

http://mshollandsthoughts.files.word...-optima-xl.jpg

http://image.motortrend.com/f/auto-n...e-quarters.jpg

The Forte's not a bad looking car either, but I'm still leery of reliability and resale issues.

I have a 2008 Fit Sport, which I love dearly, but for the life of me, I can't get into the redesigned model. Looks like they took a first gen Fit and pumped it full of steroids.

So that's three of us who drive sardine cans, buckeye, phx31, and me.

lol

I would totally drive a Smart as a second vehicle! :D

I wouldn't.

I read a thread about them on thecarlounge last week and someone had linked a report of a record low 19% customer satisfaction rate. They are unreliable, overpriced for the options, and get very poor gas mileage considering the size and weight of the car.

Damn...didn't know about that, nevermind then...not that I would have bought one anyway. :)

Yeah, my co-worker had a Smart. After he traded it in for something else he said buying it was the worst decision he ever made. It required crazy maintenance/service and overall sucked.

Buckeye, what are the design differences between an '08 and a '11 Fit Sport? I really like the way mine looks, especially in my color (Silver) with a dark tint. One thing I like about the new model is the body piece below the rear window which holds the "H" Honda emblem is now a shiny black, when before it was the same color as the rest of the body. It makes it look "sportier" somehow. Admittedly, I don't know anything else regarding differences between the new and the old body style.

I think the newer Fits look kinda lumpy. Its not a bad design, and the newer version a shit-ton more options than mine, but I kinda like the styling of the first gens. Its a little more simplistic and angular. Just a personal preference, nothing more.

2008, last year of the 1st-gen body style (my car):
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2773/...47fa0cd763.jpg

2011
http://2011-honda-fit.com/images/2011-honda-fit-2.jpg
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Probably not the best angle, my complaints stem more from the way the rear looks. For lack of a better phrase, its plagued with "ghetto booty" ;)

Mine's also silver. I love the car (hugs the road on the twists and turns of some of these mountain back roads), but its terrible for winter driving. Thank god snow's been practically non-existant in Flagstaff this winter.

Only thing that maddens me about the fit is that dorky triangular window by the mirror.

Ugly design FTL.

Heh heh, the back ---back/side view on my car is probably my favorite angle. different strokes for different folks.

Yeah, but they actually improved it on the new model/made it bigger. It looks even more stupid/useless from the inside, and it serves no functional purpose. Funny you bring that up, because I was at a light this morning next to a 2nd gen and was comparing the triangular window size...

Same here.

You say plagued with a ghetto booty, I say blessed :haha:

:haha:

You have to have nice tinting on the windows to make any car look better from any angle. No tinting = granny car or rental car.

The Fiesta Bowl will lose its BCS backing: Yes or no?

Jerry Jones has been clamoring hard for the Cotton Bowl to regain its prominence, and with the monstrosity that is the Cowboys Stadium, there's more than enough cause for concern given the shit going down with Junker.

Good lord I hope not, that would be awful for the State. With as corrupt as things in the NCAA often seem to be at most top programs I hope the NCAA realizes something like this would negatively effect the economics of a whole state and is more serious than giving SC a post season bowl ban or whatever.

I know Jones is popular and has been pushing for the Cotton Bowl for a while, if anything I'd rather just see the Cotton Bowl elevated rather than having it replace another game.

The NCAA is nothing, if hypocritical. How else do you explain Cam Newton, or Ohio State's "tat-5" playing in the 2010 Sugar Bowl?

It would be a huge blow for the state (and our much-needed tourism dollars), but the Fiesta Bowl committee is already in enough shit as it is.

I would like to think the history and tradition the Fiesta Bowl has created will keep it from being dropped. I think the BCS will just look over it much more closely.

This state can't afford another hit like would happen it the Fiesta Bowl lost BCS status. Everyone in this state need to be behind the Fiesta Bowl, I mean EVERYONE Governor, Republicans, Democrats, McCain, Mayors. If done it can come out even better than before.

and not to make him sound like a miracle worker, but get Colangelo involved. The guy seems to turn most of things he touches to gold, he's got a great reputation in the sports community especially. If he took Junkers job or even just became a figure head for the Bowl Game I'd bet it would help.

Riding in the car right now coming back from soending a wek in LA and Santa Barbara. I noticed one thing, within the city of Los Angeles alone there are 5-6 skylines larger than Phoenix's. The downtown area completely reminded me how much Phoenix blows. LA is ridiculously dense, multicultural, historic, and fun.

My city sucks. :(