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Why can't Chicago tell American to move their HQ here? OHare duopoly as leverage
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The city has literally tons of leverage with the gate leases expiring for the entire airport coming up soon. If Delta wants 'significant' expansion then that makes three heavyweights with big pocketbooks and huge quarterly profits who will be fighting to control as many gates as they can. The city can basically say 'alright, you will get gates based on how much money you commit to the airport's terminal redevelopment' and then it becomes a 3-way bidding war. The airlines didn't really kick in anything (that I'm aware of) for the runway expansion, instead just letting the city to increase the passenger fees.
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Which raises some interesting questions about western access. I agree that a western terminal may be unneeded especially given the new plan, but a western access point with a dropoff zone, an underground people mover connection and security checkpoints could be built at a fraction of the cost.
If they restricted the access point to only those passengers without checked bags (or forced passengers to gate check), it would simplify things even more. Maybe they could even build a surface-level busway across the airfield with a few taxiway underpasses to avoid the cost of a rail system. |
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...715-story.html
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It was said in one of the articles that there was 6 potential layouts of the reconstruction of the new terminals presented at the conference. I've seen one but would love to see the others.
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Not the best picture but you can make out generally what they're thinking about satellite concourses in the midfield. The slides don't seem to be online anywhere I can locate. |
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Is there a diagram of the proposed added gates for T5?
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https://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/-vJ...iation%202.png Interesting to see the 'central facility' renderings. This is probably many years away and probably one of many proposed ideas. Interesting idea to try to maximize space. That would be a ma$$ive project. http://www.chicagobusiness.com/artic...ens-soon-after http://www.chicagobusiness.com/apps/...-160719865.jpg |
I was about to try and post that picture. I saw a blurb that said there were six options presented. This one seems to unnecessarily do away with Terminal 3/AA, but wow, quite a vision for the future!
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According of ORD terminal map. Is that RJ gates in the midfield satellite terminal? I thought it was for deicing pads. :???: Can you please explain to me. What is the plan for ORD terminal renovation?
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Thank you for the diagram. I also saw the same subject come up in airliners.net, which had the same diagram, albeit smaller size:
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I wonder if United and American will transfer all their international flights to the international terminal in order to free up gate space in their existing concourses? |
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The tough part about ORD is that you can't just close a terminal down as the airport is so busy. I wonder if Delta actually moves to T5. They can begin to construct some remote new T2 gates/concourses then eventually tear down the Delta finger in T2.
I also wonder if AA 's new L concourse Eagle gates will allow them to move out of their current Eagle concourse between T2 and T3 as an interim step. Then UA can move their express gates in T2 to AA's old Eagle concourse (per point above), then T2 can be demolished at once. Problem solved:) |
No shots of the A-380 from today?
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The A380 is not as big as everyone thinks...Its 10 feet shorter than a 747 8I but it does have a huge wing wich the airlines(Emirates) wants them to shrink along with adding newer engines. The 777X10 will kill that project and put the A380 into the history(unless the European Union wants to blow a lot of money. Since the wings are made in England I am not sure the Brits will go for that again) books if Boeing ever builds it. This will be the second time Boeing kills an Airbus 4 engine aircraft(777 VS A340)
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