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Roadcruiser1 Jan 25, 2012 5:27 AM

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Originally Posted by THE BIG APPLE (Post 5563119)
I think this building is too big (bulky) to be residential. Office would definitely be the specification that this building fits and hotel would be possible. That's why you see buildings like Woolworth (possibly) and American International turning residential because they're SO thin, and have more expansive views. This building could have multiple units on the same floor, and people would argue that they're paying the same as "him" but have less views.

They are basically apartments. They would be rented out like the Beekman Tower.

THE BIG APPLE Jan 25, 2012 6:31 AM

^ I know units are basically like apartments. But the key to a successful residential building is to have as minimum units on a single floor. With a hotel it's different. In that case you should try to have as MANY rooms on a single floor.

Roadcruiser1 Jan 25, 2012 4:50 PM

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Originally Posted by THE BIG APPLE (Post 5563196)
^ I know units are basically like apartments. But the key to a successful residential building is to have as minimum units on a single floor. With a hotel it's different. In that case you should try to have as MANY rooms on a single floor.

Alright I changed it.

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Originally Posted by Roadcruiser1 (Post 5274746)
Still studying to get an architecture, and engineering degree (Masters Degree in Architecture now). Lets hope that either me or someone else comes along, and complete it. I would love to complete this building. I would build the building to this configuration. The current building and foundation could support 110 floors.

Floors Floor Use
0-50 Office
51-52 Skylobby
53-70 Office
71-72 Skylobby
73-99 Hotel
100-102 Open Air & Indoor Observation Deck
103-105 Restaurant
105-107 Cafe/Bar
107-109 Broadcasting Equipment/Telecommunications Equipment
110 Spire With TV & Radio Mast

Height To The Roof: 1410 Feet
Height To The Top Of The Mast: 1810 Feet.

Also there would be 2 Basement floors that would contain Restaurants and a Mall.


THE BIG APPLE Jan 25, 2012 5:53 PM

^ That's a better configuration but I really think this building would benefit with an outdoor observation deck. It would be the highest in the city. But at the end of the day it's just a dream unless someone makes it a reality.

Roadcruiser1 Jan 26, 2012 2:43 AM

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Originally Posted by THE BIG APPLE (Post 5563576)
^ That's a better configuration but I really think this building would benefit with an outdoor observation deck. It would be the highest in the city. But at the end of the day it's just a dream unless someone makes it a reality.

I also made World Trade Center style configuration in case if a hotel isn't profitable.

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Originally Posted by Roadcruiser1 (Post 5274746)
Still studying to get an architecture, and engineering degree (Masters Degree in Architecture now). Lets hope that either me or someone else comes along, and complete it. I would love to complete this building. I would build the building to this configuration. The current building and foundation could support 110 floors.

Floors Floor Use
0-50 Office
51-52 Skylobby
53-70 Office
71-72 Skylobby
73-99 Office
100-102 Open Air & Indoor Observation Deck
103-105 Restaurant
105-107 Cafe/Bar
107-109 Broadcasting Equipment/Telecommunications Equipment
110 Spire With TV & Radio Mast

Height To The Roof: 1410 Feet
Height To The Top Of The Mast: 1810 Feet.

Also there would be 2 Basement floors that would contain Restaurants and a Mall.

In my original posts I never mentioned design changes, but personally I would like to edit, or take out some setbacks because there are just too many for a building this tall. Plus eliminating some of the additional setbacks gives me more floor space to work with. More floor space would equal a bigger profit, and plus since it still has setbacks and it would basically follow pretty much the old design it would be very profitable in the style that would be a competitor of the Empire State Building.

jd3189 Jan 26, 2012 3:00 AM

:previous: Exactly. When the ESB becomes overwhelmed by the amount of supertalls that will be around it, this building can save the skyline if it needed to.

Roadcruiser1 Jan 28, 2012 3:35 AM

I am debating about putting two more observation decks in the mast of the building. Floors 111 and 112 at 1,500 feet up. I think it would be a good idea.

jd3189 Feb 27, 2012 9:34 PM

:previous:It would be.

nickguar May 1, 2012 8:51 PM

Suppose a developer decided to finish this building. Would it be possible to stay true to its original art deco design, while still making it a modern building? I guess the essence of my question is: How would a modern art deco design work?

Roadcruiser1 May 1, 2012 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by nickguar (Post 5686211)
Suppose a developer decided to finish this building. Would it be possible to stay true to its original art deco design, while still making it a modern building? I guess the essence of my question is: How would a modern art deco design work?

The best idea would be to follow the old design of the Metropolitan Life North Building. Some setbacks can be removed though. I think the original design had too much setbacks, and then you can finish it up and top it off with a mast that would bring it anywhere between 1,600-1.700 feet.

jd3189 May 2, 2012 8:53 AM

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Originally Posted by nickguar (Post 5686211)
Suppose a developer decided to finish this building. Would it be possible to stay true to its original art deco design, while still making it a modern building? I guess the essence of my question is: How would a modern art deco design work?

It would be similar to the postmodern architecture of today. But the new building will have to get rid of the spread out interior columns like the ones seen in the ESB in order to be viable in the office market. In other words, the outside of the building will be a refresh Art Deco with larger windows.

THE BIG APPLE Sep 14, 2012 8:13 PM

A building proposed in 1921 (below) called the Convocation Tower, was proposed for this site (where the unfinished Metlife stands today). It would've been 1,010 feet tall, and would've really complemented the Metlife Tower (1909). If I had known that a stump would be sitting on this land and NOT the 1,400 foot tower that was promised I would've HOPED for everything that the Convocation Tower would see the light of day. It's really a sad situation all around in the world of architectural history, where two great 1,000+ footers, both would've been the worlds tallest building upon completion, and both were never built.

http://www.infocustech.com/iftstore/...%20replica.jpg

jd3189 Sep 15, 2012 10:25 PM

:previous: I like that design. Maybe both of these towers, in the Neo-Art Deco style, can be built around or close Madison Square. It would really stretch the Midtown skyline south to give Hudson Yards and the other West side projects company.

ThatOneGuy Sep 16, 2012 12:28 AM

^^ That redesign looks much better than the former one planned.

Eidolon Nov 14, 2012 6:50 PM

Lets hope that this one gets completed like it was planned to, it would absolutely change NY for the better.

(sketchup model by N2J: http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehou...ba&prevstart=0)

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Hudson11 Dec 1, 2012 5:49 PM

I think a twin spire design would have worked well on this building

Roadcruiser1 Dec 1, 2012 6:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Hudson11 (Post 5921338)
I think a twin spire design would have worked well on this building

Not really. This building is way too Art Deco. What works is something like the mast on top of the Empire State Building.

jd3189 Dec 2, 2012 8:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Eidolon (Post 5901472)

I swear, if this could be revamped to be 2,000 ft to the pinnacle with a neo=Art Deco take, it could very well become the crowning jewel of this new age of skyscrapers in NYC. This could be the giant we've all been waiting for.

Eidolon Dec 19, 2012 9:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jd3189 (Post 5922551)
I swear, if this could be revamped to be 2,000 ft to the pinnacle with a neo=Art Deco take, it could very well become the crowning jewel of this new age of skyscrapers in NYC. This could be the giant we've all been waiting for.

Even if somebody completed it as it was first proposed it would be the indisputable master of the city.

nycaddict Dec 19, 2012 10:29 PM

If I was a billionAir, the first thing I would do is buy this and build it to its REAL hight


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