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Westfield is pouring $500M into UTC and I could see a similar, if not greater, investment into Horton in about 5-8 years if residential numbers continue to grow. Imagine if they replaced the walls on Nordstrom with glass like in Union Square. Same for Macy's. The view is much different now than when the mall was built. That said, I don't think a Best Buy or Target should be the goal. My concern is you would get another Ralphs rather than an Albertsons, which has residential above. I always thought a Macy's Home or Williams-Sonoma would be a much better fit. It's amazing how difficult it is to find any products for the home in downtown. |
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Regarding retail, I imagine World Market will be looking for a new lease somewhere downtown once they get kicked out of 4th and J. |
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Yeah, I'm not sure if part of the issue is there isn't enough people downtown yet to support those types of businesses but it certainly is a pain in the ass to have drive out of the city for some of your most basic shopping needs. Before the city can even approach the shopping experience seen in other cities they need to get the basics covered. Having a mall is cool for sure but you need the rest to go with it. |
Good news for these two projects today.
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...-east-village/ I'm really crossing my fingers for that Ritz Carlton project to stay as stated and get built. It would fill in that area very nicely. |
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I believe that we will continue to see the addition of retail downtown (which is slowly happening), but that a redesigned outward facing Horton Plaza will be the catalyst to turn the immediate area into a real shopping district. I believe 5 years from now, things will look very different, especially with the addition of major new projects along Market street. |
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Now if San Diego could do a project similar to the Metropolitan somewhere in the EV...that would be awesome. |
I remember getting excited a few years ago when they got the CVS in. Lol. I was happy to see it there even if it was a mini version of their regularly sized stores.
I have malls around me in my neck of the woods (La Jolla or Carlsbad) but even if I lived close to one of them to shop every day they simply don't contain a lot of the day to day stuff I want from a retailer. Horton Plaza is good for some stuff even though it is more of a trip with parking,walking,etc. than you expect from running into a normal shopping center like we are used to. My issue is that beyond it or the CVS my friends downtown are regularly driving out of town to the Costco or Walmart or Target or Best Buy or Bed,Bath and Beyond or whatever because they don't exist in downtown. I remember people in the past saying downtown needed to try and get some of the larger companies to move downtown but unless you start making the normal day to day stuff easier for people you're going to have get people to be willing to spend a fair amount of their time driving out of town to go places that are usually clustered around most cities we have in the north county. I'm currently splitting my time in Cardiff and Solana Beach but after a week in downtown I felt like I was living on a island in some respects with my time there. Hopefully one of those mentioned above tries the downtown market soon because as much as I love Whole Foods I'd have rather seen one of them mentioned in a new project instead. Downtown is fine with grocery stores and restaurants, thank you. |
Notes from article on Market Projects: 12th/Market will have 51k sq. feet of office space but it looks like it is off to the side so won't really contribute to added height of the structure due to higher floor plates for office space. (Developer said it won't be finished till 2020 Booo)
Why does everything take so long here? How about Terminal 1 demo and rebuild did you guys see they have chosen a plan but it won't begin until 2020!!! WTF Good to see more Biotech space getting added but now its time to get Qualcomm back to the table and rolling on their 1.2 million square foot expansion. MTS Busyard would be so sweet for that, or Navy Broadway Complex. |
Terminal one has been in the news a lot lately. Here's the latest:
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...l-replacement/ From that article here's a timeline. The staff has yet to set out a schedule for implementation of whatever plan is eventually approved. The board is tentatively scheduled to review a financing plan in September and approve the preferred alternative in October. An environmental impact report would be delivered in the spring of 2017. Preliminary design work would be required before seeking approval from the Coastal Commission, a process that could take several months if not a year or more. Final working drawings and financing would follow before construction on the first phase could commence. Chairman Gleason said it would be difficult to break ground on the terminal before 2020. One of the sticking points right now is this: $$$$ It'll get built when they figure out the cost and payment plan. |
Curious what everyone's opinions are on EIRs. Are these killing our economy? Are EIRs necessary tools? Or is the truth somewhere in between?
At a glance, we have a few major projects currently held up by the EIR process...NFL stadium, Rebuilt Airport T1, I-5 expansion, etc. These are just a few major public projects that I can think of at the moment. Should we eliminate EIRs for public and possibly private projects? |
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I really like the idea Dale mentioned about using glass similar to SF's Union Square for the larger dept stores like Nordstrom and Macy's. It would look great from inside and outside the stores. |
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We all know that replacing the Q with a different stadium should be a no brainer. But instead the city is spending 2.1 million dollars to hurry this along and in the end Briggs will probably sue because the funding plan is inadequate. Meanwhile in Carson, 8,000 plus signatures and a few nobody politicians can legally exempt the whole process? I would support scrapping the law and coming up with something that actually makes sense. |
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If you're not familiar with that website, I recommend taking a look. If you enjoy taking "Google vacations" on Google maps, you'll probably enjoy this site, too. |
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Condos v. houses. Very different lifestyle and storage is an issue. Even if most people would like to buy in bulk, there simply is no room for storage for it in most places. Even the high end larger condos. It's not like there is a freezer in the garage or a room for home essentials. The cost per sq foot for that type of storage can't justify the savings in buying bulk for almost all items. |
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