I did not know Paris was like this. It lokks so plain.
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Paris has many different faces - historic core, riverfront, La Defence, big parks, social housing/commiblocks, etc. This is one of them. It may not be a major tourist attraction, but I do not think of it as "plain".
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At 500 meters of the Eiffel tower
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Man you surpass youself. Aren't you embarassed to post this stuff? To showcase this utterly bland and forgettable place to represent Paris? It seems to me that you hate the real Paris that everyone else loves. You always post threads of some ugly grafitti in the suburbs to show that Paris is "ghetto" or, in this case, that dull-as-ditchwater new district near the Biblioteque Nationale to show that it's "modern". And all of this is motivated by some tragic desire to overturn people's stereotypes that Paris is a "museum city" - a charge that seems to have psychologically wounded you. Here's my take: central Paris is a museum city. But so what? It's an attractive and beautiful musem. These peripheral areas may be modern (whoopie-doo.... :rolleyes: ) but they're also unattractive and generally uninteresting. Rome is another gorgeous and fascinating museum city surrounded by boring modern suburbs. Do you think anyone is actually interested in those suburbs? Do you think people would fly from around the world to see them? No. They're just boring. They come to see the museum part in the centre. Now get over your insecurity and accept Paris for what it is.
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^ FFS if you want to show a modern glass building close to the Louvre then why not show the famous pyramids? They're inside the courtyard! Any chance of a response to my criticisms above?
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No the Louvres is too easy.
Even if the center of Paris is not as modern as the center of London, that's doesn't say that Paris is a museum city. Office U/C in CBD (Paris QCA). http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7...scentertb6.jpg |
^ But central Paris is something of a museum city. It shouldn't be any other way. Large swathes of London, included part of central London (especially the City), were bombed in WWII, then redeveloped cheaply and badly in 50s and 60s, and those sites are now being redeveloped again to a higher standard. This is not the case in Paris or even the West End/Westminster in London. Those areas should remain generally protected from development aside from the small number of sites already occuppied my modern buildings (also excepting redevelopment behind existing facades which is fine imo). And when I accuse Paris of being a museum city I'm talking about its lifestyle as much as its buildings. I reckon London must open about 10 new restaurants for every one that opens in Paris. There's a lot more nightlife in central London too. The Parisian lifestyle is much more traditional than London's.
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Even Paris change. (Execpt if a the gree Baupin become the new mayor of Paris, in this case Paris will become a museum city :( )
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=139326 The yuppie Parisian lifestyle is traditional, even if we see only that in american movie it is a very small part of Paris population. The average parisian live like the londoner (eat ethnic foods, drink at Starbucks...). The night life of Paris has changed since 2002 and the night bus network is a way bigger than in 2002. :tup: http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/2994/noctillienfa7.jpg |
Its interesting to see a different side of Paris, rather than the usual Haussmann Boulevards, and Eiffle Tower/Arc Du Triomphe/Louvre etc.
I don't understand what the problem is mercutio? :) |
Paris is a city which is much more vibrant and dynamic than London. And the reason is rather simple, the city is much more packed. It's denser. Hence activities are much more concentrated giving that vibrancy feeling which no district in London can match. Oxford street may look overcrowded in the London context, but in the Paris context, it would be another average sized shopping street... granted a crowded one but not particularly more than rue de Rennes or rue de Rivoli. It's all a matter of contrast... and the fact Oxford street is located in an area which is relatively quiet makes its crowds more noticeable than it would in the center of Bombay or Hong Kong.
In the western world, I see only two cities where activities form a continuum all over a rather large central district: that would be Paris (especially the right bank) and the island of Manhattan (especially south of Central Park). In most other western cities, either the center is much smaller, or the activity is sparsed in several more differenciated neighbourhoods. Some smaller districts of Paris have indeed a museum feeling, I think generally of the left bank, especially around rue des Ecoles, Pantheon and Sorbonne. Others have even what I would call a theme park feeling, the best example is probably place du Tertre in Montmartre which is obscenely fake to please tourists. However, this is far to be a rule. Even the medieval district of the Marais, on the right bank, is too much alive to be considered "museum-like". Paris is currently growing fastly, it's getting denser too. Between 2000 and 2005, the 4 central departments have seen their population rising from 6.164 million to 6.408 million, and all this in an area less than half the size of the Greater London. Like many other cities in the world, the demography, as much as the economy (Paris being the 2nd city worldwide hosting the most Fortune Global 500 headquarters), enforces Paris to be constantly evolving: create, devellop and make grow newer disticts, preserve or upgrade older districts. That evolution isn't necessarily following the right track. It depends from a district to another. I think it's impossible to understand a city without considering it as a living being. Just like a forest, some of its areas flourish, while others get old. A nice example would be the ugly district of the Olympiades which was totally lifeless in the 70's, and which is today the center of Paris main chinatown, one of the most vibrant area on the left bank. The heart of the Asian community in Western Europe. A counter example would be Saint-Michel, which is rapidly getting fake and soulless. When just 10 years ago rue de la Huchette was still a thrilling area known for its Greek community, it has been today totally abandonned to tourist shops and restaurants. That perpetual evolution of Paris makes it too alive to be considered as fossilized as a museum city would imply it to be. |
Don't say thats Metropolitan, , it is very dangerous with Mercurio, aka Monkey. ;)
For me, Paris and London activities are different and similar, in some way Paris could be more vibrant, in some other way London could be vibrent. But It is not the subject of this thread. |
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Though what I say is true. No other city in the western world match the density of activities of Manhattan and the city of Paris in an area of 50 km² or so. That's true as much regarding demographics stats, offices space stats, transportation stats and so on. It's just silly to consider any of both to be "dead". ;) |
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I think European cities do have a unique problem and balance to strike here. They have to preserve what makes them special and beautiful and yet also be dynamic, exciting, and new. London is perhaps fortunate in that it has more extensive possibility to be both right in the centre - unlike so many other cities in Europe. Paris and Rome, which have almost entirely preserved centres, have more difficult task, and it's one that I don't envy. An all-modern city like Dubai has no soul. Somewhere like Rome or Venice has no future except as a tourist museum. I think Paris is in a much better situation than Venice but it doesn't have as many options as London or New York. That's the issue here.... |
Bla bla bla bla bla.... :rolleyes:
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Actually the oldest chinatown of Paris was distroyed in the 1980's, the second oldest is not atractive and become less active, Olympiade become much and much vibran every years, and with the newest subway station Olympiade it will be faster. The other chinatown is in Belleville, you ask Kilegoretrout (Canadian who as visited the ethnic district of London and Paris) about it. Quote:
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The only fact that I see is that Mercurio hasn't been in Paris since a long time. The problem of Mercurio is for prove that London is cool (That's everyone know) he should bash Paris and New York. London has the best..... London is the biggest.... London is better than........ London is...... And I know that Mercurio don't hate Paris, in some could be very positive about it (even in economy) but not he speaks of London. I haven't created to prove that Paris is cooler than London or the oposite. It was just for show that the general vision of Paris is wrong. |
Mercutio, better known as Monkey on another forum, busy trolling and bashing Paris. What's new!
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stop !! :hell:
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