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With the Whitecaps providing a way better atmosphere that attracts younger fans is imo a big part of the reason for the Lions alarming attendance figures. Add to that more people from BC travel to Seattle to see the Blue Jays than to see a Lions home game. Then there's the Seahawks. The CFL is taking a back seat to too many other teams. If the Lions start to see crowds in the 15 000 range, imo the CFL is done. I pray the NFL will have interest in Canada, despite the minor stadium issues.
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It's interesting how Toronto has been shaking out this year: 35K+: Jays 25K-to-30K: TFC 18K-to-21K: Raptors, Leafs 10K-15K?: Argos 7K-10K: Rock 5K-7K: Wolfpack Eventually the Jays attendance will drop down to high 20s/low 30s like they were previously but there's room for growth at the bottom for Argos, Rock, and Wolfpack. It's likely that the Wolfpack will be getting larger crowds at Lamport than Argos at TFC soon, and if the Wolfpack win their league this year like they're looking destined to they'll be in 2nd division Rugby next year. |
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MLS on the other hand, is doing quite well on that front. Perhaps that's just the worldwide appeal of soccer finally arriving here as Canada's demographics change. |
Demographics play a big role in the shifts against the CFL. The major cities with more diverse populations are more into soccer and for local youth, the CFL did a disservice with its old silly blackout rules which kept a whole generation of youth from being able to watch local CFL games on TV. In the major markers like BC and Toronto the stadiums were never going to be full aside from playoff games and thus you would go a whole season with very little TV presence from local CFL teams.
MLS meanwhile has provided a venue where folks can experience a realistic soccer experience with the horns, flags, beer, and chants. Evreyone knows MLS is second tier soccer but it's the closest you'll get to the real deal and they still being over quality (maybe past thier prime) players. They also do a good job running promotional tours that bring over top flight teams for North American tours and exhibition games. The CFL just needs to accept it's reality of a gate and TV league and work to maximize both. A team in KW playing in a modest but nice 17k stadium would do well and would add more content to boost TV numbers for example. Forget about dog town Toronto, which can't be saved. CFL should be shoring up it's business model so that smaller markets can join the league. Big cities in Vaughn, Mississauga, etc that would benefit in having a Pro team with the cities name on it as means to step out of Toronto's shadows. There is enough of a corporate base in every GTA city where they could easily sustain themselves with a modest but nice facility. CFL brass let's me down, example, why didn't the hold TSN to the fire to have a back to back games on Canada day? The whole sports landscape to yourself on Canada's 150th, no better way to boost and promote the game. The Sask Wpg game would of sold out on a random Tuesday night in September. Such low hanging fruit that the league and TSN grabbed at versus going hard for a truly once in a generation type event. |
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MLS is going to continue playing second-fiddle to the Mexican league for the forseeable future (in terms of CONCACAF leagues) but the time will come when an MLS teams qualifies for the Club World Cup or compete more strongly internationally. It's a slow progression and changes like that usually take a generation or two. Quote:
------- Attendance for Week 3 in Montreal for Alouettes tonight was 18,728. First time an attendance for an Als game has dropped below 19K since 1999. It's not the end of the world but this is a team that has consistently been 20K+ for every game for nearly 20 years. |
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Except for a very small number of people the answer is NO. At least in Toronto. You never see anybody walking around town in an Argo's hat, or shirt. It's all Baseball, Hockey, NBA, and MLS supporters you see walking around town. T.O teams attendance rankings for their last seasons. Blue Jays #3 out of 30 - Total for regular season 3,392,099 Maple Leafs #5 out of 30 - Total for regular season 809,519 Raptors #3 out of 30 - Total for regular season 813,050 TFC #4 out of 22 - Total for regular season 451,917 Argos #8 out of 9 - Total for regular season 381,181 It should be noted that the attendance records for the Argo's show that approx 2 3rds of the tickets sold were to visiting fans not supporting the home team. |
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Montreal may not be super-hot for the Alouettes and the CFL right now, but there is generally a high level of interest for Québécois-specific stuff in the city and metro area. I wouldn't call them a bunch of American wannabes just because they're not interested in Rita MacNeil, Stompin Tom and Men with Brooms. |
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Sorry the sites info was a little confusing I got the numbers from. In fact it makes the numbers even sadder for the Argos. https://stats.cfldb.ca/team/toronto-...tendance/2016/ I should have just said : Argos #8 out of 9 - Total for regular season 147,423 |
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What a load of crap. They started rotating the Juno's out of demand from other parts of the country and also increase overall viewership. The Juno's TV ranking were slipping nation wide. Toronto has huge support for it's team and is proud of those franchises historic Canadian roots. Not liking the CFL does not mean we don't support Canadian stuff. FYI the very first Brier was held in Toronto. While it hasn't been back in many years it also hasn't returned to Montreal in 40 years now. the Junos starting rotating out of Toronto since 1991 and have been back to the big smoke 5 times since then. Each year we play host to Canada's largest pro tennis event where the fan base has grown along with Canadian talent. What a fucking load of crap that comment was. |
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It is what it is. |
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Toronto simply has a lot more entertainment options, so in order to compete with those options - you better have something that demands their attention. It has nothing to do with them resisting the product because it's Canadian - it's because the product is sub-par to them. It would be like accusing all of Canada for not buying Blackberry's any more because it's Canadian - when it's simply because the product is 3rd or 4th rate behind the competition. To most in Toronto, hockey is a Canadian product (and we know hockey is only a blip on the radar in the US) - yet the Leafs have the most dedicated fan support in the whole NHL. Toronto sold out all 3 shows for the Tragically Hip final tour last year. They're pretty damn Canadian. It's all about the product - not where the product came from. That's why we're seeing the same thing in the other bigger Canadian markets. BC and Montreal aren't far off from Toronto. Not a coincidence that those 3 markets represent the top 3 for entertainment options in Canada. |
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