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hunser Oct 15, 2013 6:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Onn (Post 6303187)
Yess!!! Time to Celebrate!

The tower still needs financing. And things back in D.C. are not going well. Good luck to all the upcoming New York projects If the economy starts to crumble... :uhh:

Onn Oct 15, 2013 6:10 PM

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Originally Posted by hunser (Post 6303193)
The tower still needs financing. And things back in D.C. are not going well. Good luck to all the upcoming New York projects If the economy starts to crumble... :uhh:

The economy is actually doing fine, its Washington that's not doing fine. But the economy is growing fairly strongly right now. The same thing happened during the 95/96 shutdown, the economy did well despite the government shutdown. I think they will make a deal.

NYguy Oct 15, 2013 6:26 PM

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Originally Posted by hunser (Post 6303170)
http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2013/1...s_approval.php

SHoP-Designed 1,350-Foot Tower Gets Landmarks Approval
Tuesday, October 15, 2013, by Jeremiah Budin

Alright, I was expecting this news, but it's great to officially get it :tup:


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At a second presentation this morning, SHoP addressed those concerns, revising their plans to demolish a much smaller portion of the structure taking up the Steinway Building's back courtyard and replacing the glass of the 57th Street atrium facade with a much clearer single-layered glass, so that observers at street level would be able to look through and see the landmarked building.

I'm also happy they didn't have to remove the glass wall entirely. I like the look of it, and hopefully it's not watered down.



http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/152899343/original.jpg



http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/152899356/original.jpg

McSky Oct 15, 2013 6:49 PM

Great to see this approved! Should be an amazing project to watch, and a great addition to the skyline once it's done.

Several things that are confusing, though:

The blueprints seem to show the "tower cap" at 1291 feet height and 1351 feet elevation. The plot is 60 feet above sea level, so will the building be 1291 feet tall?

Secondly, I can't quite reconcile the placement of the tower on the blueprints with the aerial photos. The blueprints show that 2-story portion at the back of the empty lot will remain. That's surprising.

Lastly, how will the tower be shifted if they are going to demolish less of the rear courtyard of the Steinway? Anyone have images of this area?

NYguy Oct 15, 2013 7:19 PM

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Originally Posted by McSky (Post 6303261)
The blueprints seem to show the "tower cap" at 1291 feet height and 1351 feet elevation. The plot is 60 feet above sea level, so will the building be 1291 feet tall?

Secondly, I can't quite reconcile the placement of the tower on the blueprints with the aerial photos. The blueprints show that 2-story portion at the back of the empty lot will remain. That's surprising.

Don't get too wrapped up in that. They say it will be 1,350 ft, including the crown. That could always change as the tower evolves.

http://www.citylandnyc.org/proposed-...ll/#more-20423

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The application was presented by Christopher Sharples, Gregg Pasquarelli and Vishaan Chakrabarti of SHoP Architects, the design firm behind the Barclay Center and Pier 17. A glass atrium would face the streetwall, with a zoning setback requirement of 85 feet. The applicants said the sidewall of the Steinway building would be visible through transparent glass of the atrium, which would provide a handicapped-accessible entrance to the Landmarked interior. Steinway Hall’s sidewall would also be visible to pedestrians above the atrium.

The set back tower would rise to a height of 1,350 ft., and the development would possess 300,000 sq. ft. of zoning footage. The walls on the interior courtyard of Steinway Hall would be demolished as part of the development. The development would include a permanent auditorium space, over which the Steinway company would retain control.

.....Chakrabarti said they had looked at “skyscrapers that New Yorkers adore” when designing the tower, and determined that those skyscrapers shared the characteristics of slim silhouettes, spires, and fine cladding materials. The proposed tower would have a series of small setbacks that Chakrabarti referred to as “feathering.”

Pasquareli said that the building’s materials were inspired by those of Steinway Hall, and would be comprised of bronze, glass, and terra cotta. He further added that “the notion of depth and texture was incredibly important,” and that the tower’s east and west facades would features 26 uniquely shaped twisting terra cotta columns with brass filigree, each with a maximum depth of eighteen inches. The tower would be faced with glass and bronze on the north and south and be topped with an all-glass spire.

Here's an overhead of Steinway Hall, and where the tower will rise....


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/152899830/original.jpg



http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/152899831/original.jpg

superMike Oct 15, 2013 8:03 PM

Its a really good news !!

McSky Oct 15, 2013 8:05 PM

Here's an attempt to compare the blueprint with the aerial image. It's tricky because the north side of the Steinway descends in height twice before reaching 58th street frontage (15-story, 12-story, 3-story on the blueprint), meaning that the northernmost edge of the roof catching the light in the aerial image does not represent the streetwall.

I'm still confused by the "2-story" notation north of the tower, as that area seems to represent part of the higher structure in the aerial image.

http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/...ps49211fa3.jpg

The tower location indicated by those blueprints might change slightly due to the concession offered by JDS to the LPC today regarding less demolition of the rear courtyard of the Steinway.

NYguy Oct 15, 2013 9:39 PM

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Originally Posted by McSky (Post 6303379)
I'm still confused by the "2-story" notation north of the tower, as that area seems to represent part of the higher structure in the aerial image.

The "2-story" addition was part of SHoPs plan for the alteration of Steinway Hall. It would have required a removal of part of the building (about half of the eastern wing). Apparently they won't be doing that now.

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At a second presentation this morning, SHoP addressed those concerns, revising their plans to demolish a much smaller portion of the structure taking up the Steinway Building's back courtyard



From LPC's facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/NYCLandmark...ation=timeline

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The Commission today approved the construction of a new building on the Steinway Hall site at 109-113 West 57th Street. The proposal calls for the restoration of the exterior and the construction of a tower on a portion of the landmarked site. The commissioners applauded the applicant on the design, with Commissioner Frederick Bland saying he appreciated its “daringness as well as its smartness,” and predicted it would be a landmark of the future.


I predict that as well...

ILNY Oct 16, 2013 12:06 AM

^ So construction should start soon, do they have financing for this tower?

McSky Oct 16, 2013 2:30 AM

Thanks for NYGuy for that info.

It's hard to keep up with the new projects, and rumors of projects. Check out the heights of these new buildings near the Park (in red). I put in Shvo in blue 'cause it seems very tentative. PLH is the Park Lane Hotel, which is selling for $650 million, apparently the site of a future tall tower.

http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/...psf7074b67.jpg


BTW, regarding the question above, to my knowledge JDS has refused to discuss their financing efforts for this tower so far.

NYguy Oct 16, 2013 5:32 AM

Work on the tower is not supposed to begin until next year.

superMike Oct 16, 2013 8:25 AM

I hope then you put on New York diagram soon !!

NYguy Oct 16, 2013 1:45 PM

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-styl...icle-1.1486771

Narrow tower, higher than Empire State Building, wins city approval
SHoP Architects-designed building on W. 57th St. is called 'daring' by Landmarks Commission. And it's not even the biggest tower in town.



http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopo...16n-1-copy.jpg


By Matt Chaban
October 15, 2013


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Ever want to look down on the Empire State Building? How about from your apartment?

In three years, well-heeled buyers will be able to do that from the top floors of a 1,350-foot tower that won approval Tuesday.

The building’s roofline is 100 feet higher than New York’s famous skyscraper — minus its iconic antenna — and will rise like a serrated knife next to Steinway Hall on W. 57th St.

The new-old tandem, due for completion in 2016, will contain about 100 apartments. Construction should start next spring, and the famed piano company will move out of its 1925 home.

The designers said they got their inspiration for the sleek structure from early cloud-busters such as the Empire State and Woolworth buildings. “It really comes from ... these slender, tapering towers
(but) rethinks them in a totally modern way,” said Gregg Pasquarelli, principal at SHoP Architects.

The tower would have only been 697 feet until the developers bought Steinway Hall — a deal that allowed for the building’s height to double, but also gave the Landmarks Preservation
Commission the final say.

The approval was a no brainer, members said.

“It represents the best of both worlds of new construction and design and historic preservation,” Commission Chairman Robert Tierney said Tuesday.

Fellow commissioner Fred Bland called the combo “daring and smart.”


At only 60 feet wide, the JDS Development and Property Markets Group tower appears to defy gravity.

“It may be the skinniest building ever,” Pasquarelli said. “The ratio is something like 25-to-1.”

But it won’t be alone, as a parade of supertalls now march down W. 57th St.

Developer Gary Barnett is finishing up his 1,005-foot One57 on the other end of the block, and he also has plans for a 1,432-footer across from Carnegie Hall. And Harry Macklowe is currently building
his 1,397-foot 432 Park Ave. on the eastern end of the stretch.

But Pasquarelli insisted his will be the best.

“It’s not something that could be been plucked off the skyline of Singapore or Hong Kong,” he said. “We’re all New York.”


http://shoparc.com/node/2877/project-page


111 WEST 57TH STREET

LOCATION / NEW YORK, NY
PHASE / UNDER DEVELOPMENT

SIZE / 316,000 SF



http://shoparc.com/sites/default/fil...ew%20south.jpg


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Located in the heart of mid-town along 57th street, SHoP’s design for this 1300 foot tall luxury residential tower is quintessentially New York.

The design aims to bring back the quality, materiality and proportions of historic NYC towers, while taking advantage of the latest technology to pushing the limits of engineering and fabrication.

The tower massing accentuates its’ required setbacks along 57th street with a feathering of multiple, thin steps along the south façade.
Each step corresponds with a layer of ornate Terra Cotta pilasters cladding the east and west facades.

The façade is designed to read at multiple scales and vantage points; the shaping of the Terra Cotta creates a sweeping play on shadow and light from the city scale, as the texture of the Terra Cotta panels
and inlayed bronze filigree provides richness up close.

A minimalist, glass curtain wall along the North façade will take full advantage of the tower’s sweeping views of Central Park.


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/152908352/original.jpg

Submariner Oct 16, 2013 1:54 PM

When will the diagram for this building be up?

NYguy Oct 17, 2013 6:29 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013...n_4113427.html

107 West 57th Street New York Tower Could Be The Skinniest Skyscraper Yet


http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slides...?1382000813642


By Chris York
17/10/2013


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A new residential tower planned for New York may be able to lay claim to the title of skinniest skyscraper in the world.

Despite being 411.5 metres tall the building will be just over 18 metres wide.

Located on 107 West 57th Street, if approved and built it will tower over such Manhattan skyline staples such as the Empire State Building and the 88-year-old Steinway Hall next door.

Not to mention the incredible views of Central Park it will offer.

The design, by Shop Architects, took a major step towards becoming a reality this week after it was granted approval by the Landmarks Preservation Commission.

An apartment in the building will be out of reach of most - each one takes up an entire floor, meaning the 100 or so rooms are going to be a touch pricey.

The slender marvel will soon be accompanied by some equally tall constructions. It is one of four 1,000ft-plus skyscrapers set to augment the New York skyline over the next few years.

Submariner Oct 17, 2013 6:43 PM

Just four? Last time I checked:

-WTC 1
-WTC 2
-WTC 3
-One57
-432 Park
-111 W 57th
-225 W 57th

Isn't there a residential planed for downtown that will crack the 1,000 foot mark?

JayPro Oct 17, 2013 6:52 PM

The media in this entire Statistical Tri-State Metro Area is notorious for gross oversights of fact and makes absolutely no acknowledgment thereof.
Then again, maybe the hacks in charge send out people on assignment who don't know what they're supposed to report. Yet they submit a piece whose spelling, grammar and syntax alone--never mind accuracy--wouldn't pass muster in grade school.

hunser Oct 17, 2013 7:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Submariner (Post 6306141)
Just four? Last time I checked:

-WTC 1
-WTC 2
-WTC 3
-One57
-432 Park
-111 W 57th
-225 W 57th

Isn't there a residential planed for downtown that will crack the 1,000 foot mark?

There are over 12 supertalls planned in the coming years. 4 are u/c, 4 in prep, and 4 already completed. In total more then 20 supertalls for New York this decade.

Re: 111 W 57th: I really hope they secure financing soon, it would be so epic to see this one rise side by side with Tower Verre.

NYguy Oct 17, 2013 8:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Submariner (Post 6306141)
Just four? Last time I checked:

It was a reference to the 4 towers of 57th street, but its an article from the UK. They aren't too particular on the facts, being so removed. Even the media here doesn't get it right all the time.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...crOL58JUP5s2bA

koops65 Oct 17, 2013 9:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Submariner (Post 6304118)
When will the diagram for this building be up?

I submitted a drawing this afternoon: http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=84768
NYC diagram: http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?cityID=8


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