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thenoflyzone Apr 4, 2021 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexcaban (Post 9237848)
AHHHH the return of AC866/867, I remember the days before the HD 77W when AC ran 2x 763s on 864 & 866 in the summer.

Anyway doubt this will stick.

When was the last time AC flew double daily YUL-LHR, if ever? I can’t remember ever seeing that. Must be way before the 77Ws even came on board. Heck, it's probably way before the A330s came as well.

CDG and FRA have gone double daily on and off, but I can’t recall ever seeing LHR go double daily, and i've been paying close attention to YUL's schedules since the late 90s. Could be I'm getting old. :slob:

thenoflyzone Apr 4, 2021 3:32 PM

Found this from the early nineties. So maybe I’m not old enough !

https://www.aviation-accidents.net/a...-flight-ac866/

Dominion301 Apr 4, 2021 10:24 PM

YOW-LHR has been pulled out for the entire summer and winter. On top of that there is currently a 2nd daily YUL-LHR loaded. That’s kinda concerning. Also are AC delusional to think they can fill YUL-LHR twice weekly let alone twice daily anytime soon?

casper Apr 4, 2021 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 9238335)
YOW-LHR has been pulled out for the entire summer and winter. On top of that there is currently a 2nd daily YUL-LHR loaded. That’s kinda concerning. Also are AC delusional to think they can fill YUL-LHR twice weekly let alone twice daily anytime soon?

When I lived in the Ottawa Valley in the late 1990s YOW-LHR was a double daily 767. One operated by Air Canada and the second operated by Canadian Airlines. Times have changed. They would leave about 30 minutes apart.

The extra flight from Montreal may be due to having to have a flight allocated to each slot at the Heathrow end until they are allowed to wave them or something.

I expect the YOW flight will return once government is willing to authorize foreign travel again.

The one thing the federal should do is implement similar laws to the US. The US requires that if federal government funds are spent on air travel the ticket under the code of a US based airline.

Alexcaban Apr 4, 2021 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 9237971)
When was the last time AC flew double daily YUL-LHR, if ever? I can’t remember ever seeing that. Must be way before the 77Ws even came on board. Heck, it's probably way before the A330s came as well.

CDG and FRA have gone double daily on and off, but I can’t recall ever seeing LHR go double daily, and i've been paying close attention to YUL's schedules since the late 90s. Could be I'm getting old. :slob:

Summer 2011 was the last summer AC flew LHR double daily, it was always 2 763s. I'd say around the time I started taking an interest in aviation which was 2004 it had already been 2 daily a summer here a summer there. Not sure prior to 04.

AC867 LHR-YUL
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA867

Alexcaban Apr 4, 2021 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexcaban (Post 9238356)
Summer 2011 was the last summer AC flew LHR double daily, it was always 2 763s. I'd say around the time I started taking an interest in aviation which was 2004 it had already been 2 daily a summer here a summer there. Not sure prior to 04.

AC867 LHR-YUL
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA867

Found the history of AC866 from 1998-2021

2nd daily YUL-LHR operated in 1998*, 2002-2007 & 2011
*I'm pretty sure in 98, YUL-LHR was just AC866, and then switched to 864 in 99. If I had to guess AC was double on the route 2002-07 & 2011
Was briefly a YYZ-LHR flight in 2019.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA866/history/buy

Coldrsx Apr 5, 2021 1:49 AM

I miss YEG's LHR on Canadian.

I once flew nose.

jamincan Apr 5, 2021 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 9238335)
YOW-LHR has been pulled out for the entire summer and winter. On top of that there is currently a 2nd daily YUL-LHR loaded. That’s kinda concerning. Also are AC delusional to think they can fill YUL-LHR twice weekly let alone twice daily anytime soon?

Maybe freight demand is higher out of YUL?

Dominion301 Apr 5, 2021 6:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jamincan (Post 9238581)
Maybe freight demand is higher out of YUL?

There’s no doubt about that. However the AC freighter flights are using 4 digit flight numbers.

FWIW: today’s departure count is 8.

thenoflyzone Apr 6, 2021 2:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Alexcaban (Post 9238364)
Found the history of AC866 from 1998-2021

2nd daily YUL-LHR operated in 1998*, 2002-2007 & 2011
*I'm pretty sure in 98, YUL-LHR was just AC866, and then switched to 864 in 99. If I had to guess AC was double on the route 2002-07 & 2011
Was briefly a YYZ-LHR flight in 2019.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA866/history/buy

Great find.

Wow, my memory sucks.

jamincan Apr 6, 2021 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 9238989)
There’s no doubt about that. However the AC freighter flights are using 4 digit flight numbers.

FWIW: today’s departure count is 8.

Presumably the passenger flights are carrying a lot of freight as well, though.

Dominion301 Apr 6, 2021 1:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jamincan (Post 9239513)
Presumably the passenger flights are carrying a lot of freight as well, though.

I would imagine so.

thenoflyzone Apr 6, 2021 2:26 PM

Some milestones this month.

Last week, Air Canada marked the 70th anniversary of its Montreal-Paris route. First operated on April 1, 1951, by a four-engine, 40-passenger Canadair North Star, registered CF-TFO and operated by Trans-Canada Air Lines (now Air Canada). Flights landed at ORY back in those days.

https://aircanada.mediaroom.com/2021...al-Paris-Route

Also this month, KLM celebrates its 35th anniversary serving YYC and YVR.

https://twitter.com/theaeronetwork/s...55041357991939

SignalHillHiker Apr 6, 2021 4:18 PM

So, if Canada and France give St. Pierre et Miquelon permission to join the Atlantic Bubble, for residents of the Maritimes, this is how you can get there - without any need to isolate along the way:

https://i.postimg.cc/P59bcc2b/Untitled.png

ghYHZ Apr 6, 2021 5:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker (Post 9239769)
So, if Canada and France give St. Pierre et Miquelon permission to join the Atlantic Bubble, for residents of the Maritimes, this is how you can get there - without any need to isolate along the way:

Open it up! I'd love to take my car on the new ferry over from Fortune. 'Drive to France!'

They are pretty isolated.....and sure there is a chance the virus can get in by the back door. I believe there is only one flight a week between Montreal and St. Pierre connecting from Air France and hopefully all quarantine upon arrival.

I don't know if the non-stop '737 from CDG will operate this summer or not.

MonctonRad Apr 6, 2021 6:13 PM

I'm shocked that Air St. Pierre operates a season flight from St. Pierre to the Magdalens, but they do not service Moncton (la Capitale de l'Acadie).

ghYHZ Apr 6, 2021 6:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad (Post 9239935)
I'm shocked that Air St. Pierre operates a season flight from St. Pierre to the Magdalens, but they do not service Moncton (la Capitale de l'Acadie).

Yes....I remember that Air St Pierre flight always used to stop in YQM on the way to YUL.

samuelx88 Apr 6, 2021 6:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad (Post 9239935)
I'm shocked that Air St. Pierre operates a season flight from St. Pierre to the Magdalens, but they do not service Moncton (la Capitale de l'Acadie).

I think they should also fly to YQB

thenoflyzone Apr 6, 2021 7:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad (Post 9239935)
I'm shocked that Air St. Pierre operates a season flight from St. Pierre to the Magdalens, but they do not service Moncton (la Capitale de l'Acadie).

YGR began in 2018. Same year non stop FSP-CDG service began. Something tells me the two are linked.

SignalHillHiker Apr 6, 2021 7:21 PM

Moncton, you might actually be a position to push for that. Most of the reason they offer flights to St. John's and Halifax is for healthcare. Obviously there are family visits too, most francophones in St. John's are Saint-Pierrais, but healthcare is the main driver for the flight. It's completely different from why they offer Montreal.


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