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bilbao58 May 9, 2021 7:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The ATX (Post 9274465)
There isn't a definitive definition of what is "downtown" when comparing cities.

I think of San Antonio’s downtown as being bound on the east by I-37, on the west by I-10, on the north by I-35, and on the south by César Chavez Blvd. If they’re including South Town and King William and everything down to I-10 before it turns north then I can see where their population number comes from. I personally wouldn’t include those areas as Downtown.

Twitter1 May 10, 2021 12:58 AM

4411 San Felipe Class-A Office.

https://i.imgur.com/nwJA2go.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ab1h5H4.jpg

The Best Forumer May 10, 2021 1:55 PM

Thanks for the update.

drummer May 10, 2021 2:35 PM

That transformation of Houston in those pics is truly spectacular.

KevinFromTexas May 10, 2021 3:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bilbao58 (Post 9273953)
I think it depends on the definition of downtown. The same website that lists Houston's DT pop as 15K, lists Dallas's as 11K, Chicago's as 22K, and San Antonio's as 17K (which makes me wonder what they consider downtown).

What website were you using?

As for Houston not having a ton of residential high rises downtown. Meh. Houston is an odd case since there are high rises all over the city. For whatever it lacks with residential high rises in downtown, there are a ton of them all over the city. It's somewhat easier to plop a residential high rise into a neighborhood in Houston somewhere than it is to do it in downtown. All I mean by that is you can build tall somewhere outside of downtown and still be fairly car oriented and not much different than any other apartment complex. But to build one in downtown where it's expected to be close to things people want that they can walk to because it is in downtown, that can be more difficult to achieve. You have to be able to acquire lots to build on and they have to be close enough to the core of the activity in downtown to be walkable. Building residential in downtown is a lot more organic than it is outside of it. It's something that takes a long time to cultivate. You can't just plop a high rise into downtown and expect it to work right away. Sure, it'll add density, but if it's not close enough to the activity in downtown people likely won't opt to walk.

bilbao58 May 10, 2021 4:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas (Post 9275081)
What website were you using?

The link is in the post. https://www.point2homes.com/US/Neigh...ographics.html

Plug in other cities where "Houston" is in the link. Add a hyphen for "San-Antonio."

bilbao58 May 10, 2021 4:18 PM

New photo added to my post above. I finally found an aerial photo that shows the setting of Discovery Green Park.

KevinFromTexas May 10, 2021 4:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bilbao58 (Post 9275135)
The link is in the post. https://www.point2homes.com/US/Neigh...ographics.html

Plug in other cities where "Houston" is in the link. Add a hyphen for "San-Antonio."

Thanks. Someone recently posted this one below, and I've been looking at it a bit. I never know exactly what some cities consider to be their downtown. Not all of them even call it downtown, and sometimes there are multiple neighborhoods within it that carry their own different names. And so, unless you live there it can be difficult to figure out what they consider to be downtown.

https://statisticalatlas.com/United-States/Overview

The Best Forumer May 10, 2021 6:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bilbao58 (Post 9275142)
New photo added to my post above. I finally found an aerial photo that shows the setting of Discovery Green Park.

Where is it?

bilbao58 May 10, 2021 7:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Best Forumer (Post 9275298)
Where is it?

You have to go up 6 posts before Dariusb's quote to the original post. It's the last photo.

Wattleigh May 15, 2021 6:45 PM

Texas Tower


c/o 'Nate99' on HAIF

https://www.houstonarchitecture.com/...7eab8abbb.jpeg

c/o 'cityliving' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/qoECaNBl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/gFvBnxcl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/TL8pap2l.jpg

c/o 'hindesky' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/lKE5PJ3l.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/h0cS4jzl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/QZCSevYl.jpg

Brava

c/o 'cityliving' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/45z6PlYl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/xaEEijjl.jpg

c/o 'hindesky' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/5sP0D75l.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/BQbm56Yl.jpg

800 Crawford


c/o 'Highrise Tower' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/ILNVpSLl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/9vDdOFYl.jpg

c/o 'hindesky' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/4b7Anvkl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/INRZ5Wpl.jpg

Sovereign at the Ballpark


c/o 'hindesky' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/rJIprecl.jpg

The Ion

c/o 'rechlin' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/zR3e4Fel.jpg

The Allen


c/o 'hindesky' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/66gGVrUl.jpg

c/o 'cityliving' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/9j3KFwrl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/bFTYVDSl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/K3ioOK2l.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ruWM1nal.jpg

Hanover Autry Park


c/o 'hindesky' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/FaLqnWkl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/gplV2xNl.jpg

Regent Square


c/o 'hindesky' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/1zLdhacl.jpg

The Interpose


c/o 'hindesky' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/TiZo0MGl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/yV7HbB0l.jpg

Fairfield Shepherd


c/o 'hindesky' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/nBM9XCKl.jpg

The Oliver Sawyer Yards


c/o 'hindesky on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/M5GhYtgl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/N2VmRf2l.jpg

MorningStar at River Oaks


c/o 'Highrise Tower' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/QvFBlaTl.jpg

Pearl Rosemont

c/o 'cityliving' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/Eeu8Bjel.jpg

Montrose Collective


c/o 'cityliving' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/A2IlyGcl.jpg

Broadstone Museum District


c/o 'hindesky' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/qoAhrBRl.jpg

Museo Plaza MOB


c/o 'hindesky' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/wOIAsQZl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/lFnmmuyl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/yiB8NE8l.jpg

Texas A&M Innovation Plaza


c/o 'hindesky' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/GvWbpDgl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/mBaXRBgl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/UeFh5ERl.jpg

TMC|3

c/o hindesky on HAIF

who adds...
Quote:

A sea of tower cranes, 5 of them and possibly more in the works. I talked with a worker and he said this is going to be an 8 year project
https://i.imgur.com/0XcrPF6l.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ZatUlvRl.jpg

Baylor McNair Campus
New Tower


c/o 'Highrise Tower' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/cOLwQw4l.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/NtohZc5l.jpg

Memorial Park Tunnels/Landbridges

c/o hindesky on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/8oMT0Z4l.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/RKZ4a5xl.jpg

Wattleigh May 15, 2021 7:58 PM

To add to the previous discussion about underappreciated views, I would like to submit the northeast view of downtown

c/o 'hindesky' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/iBmnvezl.jpg

A lot of development in just the past decade in that view. Even some decent skyscrapers.

And from the east, from the same photographer

https://i.imgur.com/lbkUoozl.jpg

That one will be one that I'm interested to see develop as East River expands.

One perspective that I never see (but would love to) is Uptown from the north - like if you're coming from 290 and getting onto the West Loop from that flyover. Residential towers at the fore, Williams at the back but still a primary feature with a ton of new towers that have emerged in the past number of years. Also, there's enough development on the other side of the Loop now that it halfway looks like it's merging with the Greenway & Upper Kirby skylines.

kingkirbythe.... May 15, 2021 10:20 PM

So many great pictures.

I really like Texas Tower, but I love that is rotated off the street grid.

JManc May 16, 2021 12:01 AM

I live in Kingwood and occasionally take my wife into work downtown and love the view coming down 59. I think that angle has seen more changes in recent years.

TexasPlaya May 16, 2021 5:27 PM

Really appreciates the updates.

I think Montrose Collective is my favorite development since that corner has been so underdeveloped for the location. It's an interesting mix of retail, office, and a Houston library expansion. There have been two recent high rises but those a few blocks away and not on the main intersection of Westheimer and Montrose. This development along, with the Krogers and Half Price shopping center (both razed now I believe) will really make this a better area. Also the scale is really appropriate for the neighborhood.

https://www.montrosecollective.com/

From Urbannizer on HAIF:

https://static.wixstatic.com/media/8..._20181228.webp

From Wattleigh above, with Westheimer at the bottom and Montrose top left:

https://i.imgur.com/A2IlyGcl.jpg

llamaorama May 16, 2021 6:33 PM

At first I thought this development seemed to be a little "too good to be true" and was suspicious of it, because you know with COVID for a while I bought into the doom and gloom that cities would suffer. But things are coming back and I can definitely see this filling up.

Agreed on the half price and kroger, hopefully they maximize the density on those blocks. At a minimum, something as big as the Pearl Rosemont mid-rise tower going up.

Dariusb May 16, 2021 11:47 PM

Awesome updates!! Beautiful views!

Twitter1 May 17, 2021 12:47 AM

Hyatt Place Hotel in the TMC.

https://i.imgur.com/2husFhH.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/IYbSKMy.jpg

AviationGuy May 17, 2021 3:53 AM

Whatever happened to the abandoned highrise hotel downtown? I don't recall the name of the hotel, but I think you all will know which one I mean.

Brijonmang May 17, 2021 4:12 AM

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...3bb2b090_k.jpgDusk by Bryan Malloch, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...a9b869af_k.jpgThe Allen by Bryan Malloch, on Flickr

JManc May 17, 2021 4:22 AM

^ Fantastic shot! Checked out your Flickr page...amazing stuff.

Brijonmang May 17, 2021 4:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JManc (Post 9282266)
^ Fantastic shot! Checked out your Flickr page...amazing stuff.

Thank you so much! I should get back to posting more on Flickr but I really only use it for posting to the message boards. I'll try to do better!

The Best Forumer May 17, 2021 3:08 PM

wow awesome work!

DCReid May 17, 2021 3:15 PM

In the second photo, what areas are the cluster of buildings to the near left, the near right and the very far right?

TexasPlaya May 17, 2021 6:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCReid (Post 9282523)
In the second photo, what areas are the cluster of buildings to the near left, the near right and the very far right?

Not sure exactly what you are referring to. There are two major employment centers in the picture, Greenway Plaza and Uptown/Galleria. Uptown is the major linear set of buildings in the background, including the very tall blue tower. Greenway Plaza is the cluster of buildings in the middle of the background.

The rest are small clusters of highrises, in Montrose and Upper Kirby. The bayou had a major upgrade that has spawned a lot of development along it.

bilbao58 May 17, 2021 7:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TexasPlaya (Post 9282795)
Not sure exactly what you are referring to. There are two major employment centers in the picture, Greenway Plaza and Uptown/Galleria. Uptown is the major linear set of buildings in the background, including the very tall blue tower. Greenway Plaza is the cluster of buildings in the middle of the background.

The rest are small clusters of highrises, in Montrose and Upper Kirby. The bayou had a major upgrade that has spawned a lot of development along it.


Very far right (in distance) is Memorial City/City Centre/Energy Corridor, right?

JManc May 17, 2021 8:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCReid (Post 9282523)
In the second photo, what areas are the cluster of buildings to the near left, the near right and the very far right?

Greenway Plaza, Uptown Galleria, Energy Corridor (the tallest one at far right is Memorial Hermann)

TexasPlaya May 17, 2021 9:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bilbao58 (Post 9282866)
Very far right (in distance) is Memorial City/City Centre/Energy Corridor, right?

Correct. I didn't scroll far enough.

Uptown and Energy Corridor are pretty linear and along a major highway.

bilbao58 May 17, 2021 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JManc (Post 9282997)
Greenway Plaza, Uptown Galleria, Energy Corridor (the tallest one at far right is Memorial Hermann)

I'm wondering if what DCReid refers to as "near right" is American General Center.

OhioGuy May 17, 2021 10:47 PM

Brijonmang, those are great photos! :tup:

The Best Forumer May 18, 2021 8:14 PM

Great pics as alwaus.

TexasPlaya May 19, 2021 12:27 AM

Downtown Apartment/Occupancy numbers from 4/21 per TheSirDingle @ HAIF

Quote:

Residential Market

Occupancy Rate: 84.1%

Note: This is up dramatically from the previous quarter low of 82.2%, I'm projecting it be up to 87% by the end of summer.

Residential Units: 6,279 units

Under Construction: 1,317 units

Note: This includes The Brava (373 units), Trammell Crow (309 units), Sovereign (229 units), Fairfield (286 units), and Mckee City Living (120 units). A pretty significant lineup to look forward to.

Planned: 275 units

Note: don't know what this one is, but I assume it's a low ball considering the updates going around the forum.

Looks like everything should be going back to normal, I'm expecting foot traffic and in-office occupancy to be back to, or close to normal later this year.

Source: https://www.centralhouston.org/filer/0/1618017844/493/

Brijonmang May 19, 2021 3:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Best Forumer (Post 9282515)
wow awesome work!

Quote:

Originally Posted by OhioGuy (Post 9283148)
Brijonmang, those are great photos! :tup:

Thank you! I will try to be more active with photos going forward!

Double L May 23, 2021 7:24 PM

Downtown Houston has been through a residential high-rise boom throughout the 2010s. I love seeing it.

Dariusb May 23, 2021 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double L (Post 9289407)
Downtown Houston has been through a residential high-rise boom throughout the 2010s. I love seeing it.

I definitely see it in comparing skyline pics from a few years back. I'm sure the boom will continue.

Wattleigh May 24, 2021 6:56 AM

Texas Tower


c/o 'Eastdwntwn' on HAIF

https://www.houstonarchitecture.com/...950715fac2.jpg

c/o 'hindesky' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/AeoM6Wsl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/9heSoLbl.jpg

Brava


c/o 'hindesky' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/jtyGTWTl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/1etRKTil.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/DKftX8Ml.jpg

800 Crawford


c/o 'hindesky' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/rqRhXiil.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/5bCDZ71l.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/rgk8DgWl.jpg

McKee City Living


c/o 'hindesky' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/8uVjYJWl.jpg



Pearl Rosemont


c/o 'hindesky' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/TwMqxOvl.jpg

Regent Square


c/o 'hindesky' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/uAHgzoUl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Y4zKgsQl.jpg

Alta River Oaks


c/o 'hindesky' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/r1ns7Ejl.jpg
Montrose Collective


c/o 'cityliving on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/2JgfUl3l.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/jTtN89Wl.jpg

c/o 'hindesky' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/s3DiWWgl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/XJ6fHuFl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/7pVsVorl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/mwNsi6Xl.jpg


Aspire Post Oak
c/o 'Highrise Tower' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/jiBhz0tl.jpg

Texas A&M Innovation Plaza / Life Tower


c/o 'hindesky' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/2GIzu81l.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/xQt5QVFl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/sffgCRHl.jpg

c/o 'Highrise Tower' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/WIaLagUl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/3ZYOTXyl.jpg

TMC|3

c/o 'hindesky' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/lkzW7XZl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/pbBuDpQl.jpg

Baylor St. Lukes McNair Campus Expansion

c/o 'hindesky' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/ld2Mz0vl.jpg

c/o 'Highrise Tower' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/MtvQDB2l.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/YZi6o3Wl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/nj1F3cal.jpg

Hyatt House/Hyatt Place TMC

c/o 'Highrise Tower' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/2husFhHl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/IYbSKMyl.jpg

c/o 'hindesky' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/KhGj8zWl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/1GZqCO0l.jpg

Woman's Hospital of Texas Campus Expansion

c/o 'hindesky' on HAIF

https://i.imgur.com/XDAhnbnl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/P5XmM5Il.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/uWCBtb6l.jpg

The Best Forumer May 24, 2021 4:05 PM

awesome updates/

Dariusb May 25, 2021 12:54 AM

Lovely updates!

KevinFromTexas May 25, 2021 9:13 AM

It looks like they're planning to remove the spires from the Fannin Tower in the Texas Medical Center. Wtf?

https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...77580054&row=6

kingkirbythe.... May 25, 2021 3:00 PM

That’s fucking stupid as fuck!

The Best Forumer May 25, 2021 3:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas (Post 9290638)
It looks like they're planning to remove the spires from the Fannin Tower in the Texas Medical Cener. Wtf?

https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...77580054&row=6

Uh... why????

JManc May 25, 2021 7:15 PM

I wonder if they would replace them with purely ornamental spires. Otherwise, it will substantially alter the aesthetic of the O’Quinn Medical Tower which was meant to like a pair of hypodermic needles

AviationGuy May 26, 2021 12:54 AM

That would be awful. Such an iconic building and spires. My Dad always used it as a landmark when telling people how to get somewhere near the building ("just past the building with the needles on top").

bilbao58 May 26, 2021 2:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JManc (Post 9291190)
I wonder if they would replace them with purely ornamental spires. Otherwise, it will substantially alter the aesthetic of the O’Quinn Medical Tower which was meant to like a pair of hypodermic needles

Or St. Luke's Medical Tower as it was first known. I've decided building name changes are meant to reveal how long someone has been somewhere and how old they are. And when you can no longer keep up it means you're really old. I can't keep up any longer.

bilbao58 May 26, 2021 2:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AviationGuy (Post 9291598)
That would be awful. Such an iconic building and spires. My Dad always used it as a landmark when telling people how to get somewhere near the building ("just past the building with the needles on top").

Obviously the evil-doings of ANTI-VAXXERS!!!

KevinFromTexas May 26, 2021 2:39 AM

I know. That sucks. The first time I visited Houston, it was one of the buildings I was looking forward to seeing. It's also really cool looking at night all it up and the white beacons up there. It totally sucks that they'd do that.

bilbao58 May 26, 2021 3:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas (Post 9291712)
I know. That sucks. The first time I visited Houston, it was one of the buildings I was looking forward to seeing. It's also really cool looking at night all it up and the white beacons up there. It totally sucks that they'd do that.

My favorite view ever of it was in a Southwest Airlines jet flying over it at night. Got to see Transco, the Hypodermic Needles and Downtown all on the way to Hobby.

JManc May 26, 2021 2:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bilbao58 (Post 9291698)
Or St. Luke's Medical Tower as it was first known. I've decided building name changes are meant to reveal how long someone has been somewhere and how old they are. And when you can no longer keep up it means you're really old. I can't keep up any longer.

I worked in the TMC for years so I was up on all the changes going on around there and the people buildings were named after...

The Best Forumer May 26, 2021 7:24 PM

Anyone know why?

bilbao58 May 26, 2021 7:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JManc (Post 9292045)
I worked in the TMC for years so I was up on all the changes going on around there and the people buildings were named after...

The original plan was for two more towers just like the existing one. As much as I've always admired the building, three would have been overkill.


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