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nname Mar 10, 2021 9:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hollywoodcory (Post 9212986)
I'm not sure about Eastern Canada routes, but these appear to be what was removed in Western Canada. AC down to just LHR, FRA and CUN at YYC for S21.

YYC-SFO
YYC-LAX
YYC-PDX
YYC-IAH
YYC-LAS
YYC-EWR
YYC-PHX (Still scheduled until late April).
YEG-SFO
YVR-ANC
YVR-BOS
YVR-EWR

YVR-SMF
YVR-DFW
YVR-SAN
YVR-SJC

Not sure about express routes from other airports.

YVR-DFW is also removed W21, so perhaps it's permanently cancelled.

hollywoodcory Mar 12, 2021 5:22 PM

Looks like AC backtracked and re-opened bookings on a few routes to France.

YUL-NCE
YUL-BOD
YUL-TLS
YUL-MRS

Additionally YYZ/YUL-BCN have been removed until January now.

(All from @theaeronetwork)
https://twitter.com/theaeronetwork/s...99696007184385

Also curious if with the current vaccination rates in the US/Canada, if we could even see if a few Transborder routes to leisure destinations re-opened as well?

thenoflyzone Mar 12, 2021 7:44 PM

Since the European regulators failed to approve the AC/TS transaction by the February 15 deadline, either company can walk away from the deal, upon notice to the other party. Transat has been informed by Air Canada that they will not agree to an extension of the deadline. Meanwhile, the European decision is expected in the first half of 2021 (by June).

Transat, it seems, has a plan B - and a plan C - if ever the AC merger doesn't happen. At this rate, there is a decent chance AC walks away from the deal. I think the only reason they haven't is to prevent TS from entering into talks with competitors such as Peladeau or Onex.

As long as the AC/TS deal is still on the table, TS is forbidden from entertaining competing offers.

https://montrealgazette.com/business...nue-plunges-94

On a related note, TS plans to resume flying in June. And according to Annick Guérard, COO of the company, they love the performance of their A321LRs and might possibly order more, including the XLR.

Link in french only.

https://www.lesailesduquebec.com/air...-en-veut-plus/

Pre-COVID, their fleet was 39. It will go down to 27 by next winter season. All A321/A330, except for one lone B738, which is on permanent lease. Negotiations are ongoing to terminate that lease ASAP. Needless to say that frame won't be flying commercially with TS.

Page 13.

https://www.transat.com/getmedia/4c2..._2021.pdf.aspx

Dominion301 Mar 12, 2021 9:41 PM

Check out the stark contrast between AC's March 2020 vs March 2021 non-sun international route maps.

March 2020:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwRXnAzU...jpg&name=large

March 2021:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwRXnAyV...jpg&name=large

thenoflyzone Mar 12, 2021 10:14 PM

^ nice to see YYC is still on the map, all alone, waiting for some lines to connect to it....lol

hollywoodcory Mar 12, 2021 11:31 PM

^:haha: Next week will mark a full year since Air Canada has operated a long haul international flight from YYC.

I think FRA will resume at some point this year, but LHR is questionable.

whatnext Mar 12, 2021 11:47 PM

Worth noting that while the Trudeau government continues to dither on aid to Canada's airlines, the $1.9 trillion pandemic relief bill Joe Biden just signed contains the following for US aviation (that had already received aid in 2020):

The pandemic relief bill that President Biden signed Thursday afternoon will protect tens of thousands of aviation jobs, providing a lifeline to an industry that is likely to struggle for some time even as vaccinations accelerate.

After Congress this week approved the legislation, which includes $14 billion for airlines and an additional $9 billion for airports and other businesses, American Airlines and United Airlines told 27,000 employees that they could ignore the furlough notices they had received in recent weeks. The airlines had issued the warnings, which are legally required in advance of sweeping cuts, as they prepared to carry out the furloughs at the end of this month when an earlier round of federal aid expired. The new bill extends that assistance through September....(bold mine)


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/11/b...line-jobs.html

Dominion301 Mar 13, 2021 2:42 AM

Here's also AC's March/April 2021 domestic/transborder map:

Unfortunately I could find a comparison to last year.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwOjsTzV...name=4096x4096

Dominion301 Mar 13, 2021 2:44 AM

On this map, YQM is connected to as many destinations as YOW is 2. Incredible.

Alexcaban Mar 13, 2021 3:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hollywoodcory (Post 9215985)
Looks like AC backtracked and re-opened bookings on a few routes to France.

YUL-NCE
YUL-BOD
YUL-TLS
YUL-MRS

Additionally YYZ/YUL-BCN have been removed until January now.

(All from @theaeronetwork)
https://twitter.com/theaeronetwork/s...99696007184385

Also curious if with the current vaccination rates in the US/Canada, if we could even see if a few Transborder routes to leisure destinations re-opened as well?

BOD & MRS still show on RV 767 eqi, so I really doubt they'll stick around.

BOD is possible on a 7M8 like it had always been planned.

hollywoodcory Mar 13, 2021 4:14 AM

WS filed an updated schedule in OAG until May 4th. Limited Transborder schedule remains, minus HNL. (Weekly flights to PSP, RSW, OGG 2x weekly to PHX)

Looks like they're *currently* planning to resume CUN, PVR, SJD and MBJ from May 1st?

Interestingly YYC-OGG got extended into May as well. That route usually ends its season the third week of April.

ac888yow Mar 13, 2021 1:29 PM

Looks like AC mappers need a remedial geography lesson on where Ottawa actually is.

hollywoodcory Mar 16, 2021 10:36 PM

AC appears to have loaded additional long haul changes for S21. I see YYC-LHR removed until July 1st, and YYC-FRA scheduled to resume June 2 3x weekly.

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On another note, in contrast to the AC maps posted above here is WS March 14-May 4 Transborder/International network vs. what was scheduled during the same period pre-COVID:

https://i.imgur.com/cAiM5OB.gif
https://i.imgur.com/fErl0Y3.jpg

CityTech Mar 17, 2021 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 9216327)
Check out the stark contrast between AC's March 2020 vs March 2021 non-sun international route maps.

March 2021:

AC is still doing YYZ-TLV? That's surprising; incoming travel to Israel is extremely restricted (there's even a daily cap for returning citizens).

hollywoodcory Mar 17, 2021 1:44 AM

https://www.heathrow.com/at-the-airp...which-terminal

Probably meaningless, but WS appears on LHR's terminal finder and shows a 12:10 arrival from YYC on WS060 when searching through June & July dates. This is similar to how people are speculating JetBlue is about to announce LHR flights themselves.

This could be just like last winter, where they got ad-hoc slots for summer that another airline returned. Guess we'll see what happens.

MonctonRad Mar 17, 2021 1:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 9216528)
On this map, YQM is connected to as many destinations as YOW is 2. Incredible.

Sounds about right. :D

Prairiedawg Mar 17, 2021 5:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hollywoodcory (Post 9220065)
AC appears to have loaded additional long haul changes for S21. I see YYC-LHR removed until July 1st, and YYC-FRA scheduled to resume June 2 3x weekly.

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On another note, in contrast to the AC maps posted above here is WS March 14-May 4 Transborder/International network vs. what was scheduled during the same period pre-COVID:

https://i.imgur.com/knAXbys.png

YUL isn't on the map and has no lines connected to it. :shrug:

hollywoodcory Mar 17, 2021 2:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prairiedawg (Post 9220356)
YUL isn't on the map and has no lines connected to it. :shrug:

Just to be clear, both of those maps were made by me and not WS.

Dominion301 Mar 17, 2021 3:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prairiedawg (Post 9220356)
YUL isn't on the map and has no lines connected to it. :shrug:

I don't think WS had any YUL transborder or international routes in 2019.

Dominion301 Mar 17, 2021 3:40 PM

AC committing to a net zero 2050 emissions goal: https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...853464854.html


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