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In China they had a three sided brick thing that focused the heat of the open fire and they would put cooking implements on top. |
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The modern restaurant is really the product of the inventions of the gas range and the restaurant ventilation hood (which prevented cooks from dying of carbon monoxide poisoning). Both were invented in the early 19th century and became more common over time. Escoffier's brigade system for organizing the work, which came about in the late 19 century was the third piece. The kitchen of an 18th century inn would be completely different than what a modern chef is used to. |
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So the desire for temperature control really is only a fairly recent thing. |
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I wouldn’t want to live in a new build anyway, but there’s some talk of doing the same thing here. That would completely rule out any possibility of ever buying a property that wasn’t grandfathered in (and would raise the cost of doing so).
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Are gas appliances significantly more wasteful than electrical counterparts?
I get that 27 percent of emissions come from gas appliances, but that is not really the metric that is needed imo. |
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This is a push towards electrification to reduce carbon emissions. And a nod to the future, where the big coal or gas-fired power plant will be a thing of the past when it comes to providing power to homes and commercial buildings. It’s not that far off, and when you consider ultra high efficiency construction practices, on site generation, advanced battery storage, and microgrid technologies, it’s a pretty cool thing that Berkeley and PH&E is doing |
*As already noted, the city of Berkeley, the State of California, and Pacific Gas & Electric all actively support requiring new construction be all-electric.
*As already noted, PG&E's electricity production portfolio is heavy on renewables, nuclear, and hydro, and 0% of its electricity is derived from coal. *As already noted, this only affects new construction. No existing business or home will be affected, including restaurants. *Obsessing merely over future restaurants' appliances is a ridiculous distraction from a fact-based discussion on how Berkeley will meet its decade-old targets for reducing greenhouse gas emissions in ways that other stakeholders support (see first bullet point). *Essentially, this thread was started and maintained only to enable right-wing culture warriors an opportunity to "own the libs" outside of the Current Events section, where such trollish garbage is rightly supposed to be quarantined. Quote:
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Conservatives just want to perpetuate the status quo and are against anything new, even if new means beneficial/better. I've said this on many other previous threads, but California was the first jurisdiction in the world to require catalytic converters on cars, and they did this in the mid-1970s. Conservatives and the auto industry claimed that it would raise the price of cars and would be an unfair burden to the auto industry (meaning it would eat into their profits)... oh, and it would be a burden to consumers too... but the whole US and other countries eventually followed suit anyway. |
Actually, how is it that 27 percent of emissions come from gas appliances?
That number seems high to me. Also, I don't very much like being called a troll when I am trying to have a serious discussion. Kind of devaluing speech, eh? |
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