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And LIC and Flushing haven't been separate "villages and towns" for 150 years. What does that even mean? Everything outside the original Dutch settlement was at one time a separate "village". |
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And yes, I know NYC's MSA is bigger. |
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The only one disputable would be Detroit. What about Minni? STL? Cleaveland? I feel like there are better Choices now over Detroit. |
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by the measures of size and economy, detroit is the midwest's 2nd city. but the twin cities are creeping up on the motor city, and growing faster. st. louis and cleveland wouldn't really be in the running for #2 in the midwest. 2018 MSA population detroit: 4,326,442 twin cities: 3,629,190 st. louis: 2,805,465 cleveland: 2,057,009 2010-2018 MSA pop. growth detroit: +0.70% twin cities: +8.37% st. louis: +0.64% cleveland: −0.97% 2017 MSA GDP detroit: $260.612 Billion twin cities: $260.106 Billion st. louis: $161.281 Billion cleveland: $138.980 Billion |
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Are you aware of any major city in existence that is the exact same size as at its founding? NYC is actually odd in that there have been no territorial expansions since the 19th century. Only a few big U.S. cities have had such longstanding fixed limits. LA had massive 20th century expansions, up until WW2. That's really a more typical U.S. scenario. |
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for ohioans, there is no second city. well of course technically there is, but not in the state mindset. most ohioans think of it as there are the three C's, cleveland, columbus and cincinnati, in no order really, and then there are three red-headed step sister cities so to speak, toledo, akron and dayton. and even after that there is quite a broad mix of suburbs, small cities and towns and country villages and the like. so ohio state is really most notable for its variety and not for having one big city and one second tier city, maybe kind of like california and texas i would say.
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neither state has a clear-cut "2nd city", but for very different reasons. both states have similar overall populations/sizes, however, in illinois 75% of the people are crammed into one single super-metro in the far NE corner of the state, with nothing but small cities/towns and cornfields spread across the rest of the state, while in ohio the population is MUCH more widely distributed across a vast array of small, medium, and large cities that span from one end of the state to the other. |
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As the ancient capital of the Mississippian Civilization , and later settled in the late 1600s by Canadien explorers, the St. Louis region is home to the primate metropolis of the lands stretching from the Appalachian uplift to the slopes of the Rocky Mountains. Poised to reach 17 million by 1997, St. Louis has.... *pipe noise* |
Who really won the Toledo War?
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Excellent read, I love the second and third cities. There were a lot of cities in the UAE and people must visit there.
Thanks for a beautiful input about the second cities. |
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Today, the two cities are evenly matched economically. For example, of the ten largest Australian corporations by revenue: Wesfarmers ($69 billion) - Perth Woolworths ($56 billion) - Sydney Commonwealth Bank of Australia ($45 billion) - Sydney BHP ($39 billion) - Melbourne Westpac Banking Corporation ($38 billion) - Sydney Rio Tinto ($35 billion) - Melbourne ANZ Banking Group ($34 billion) - Melbourne NAB ($32 billion) - Melbourne Telstra ($28 billion) - Melbourne NSW Health ($21 billion) - Sydney |
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States with one dominant big city:
Alabama: Birmingham Arizona: Phoenix Colorado: Denver Georgia: Atlanta Louisiana: NO Maryland: Baltimore Massachusetts: Boston Minnesota: Twin Cities Michigan: Detroit Oregon: Portland New York: NYC Washington: Seattle States with 2 big cities domination debatable: Tennessee Oklahoma Missouri Pennsylvania States with multiple big cities, domination debatable: California Florida Ohio Texas |
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