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Martin Pal Oct 14, 2020 6:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BDiH (Post 9073107)
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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9072919)
[SIZE="1"]https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/PJDXgs.jpg
eBay

. . . .:previous: Judging by those 8 x 10s it appears the bar showcased female entertainers. (strip joint? :shrug:)

Female impersonators
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^^^

Interesting to see bicycles parked outside a club.

According to the One Archives, this was the Club Flamingo at 1027 N. La Brea.
https://one.usc.edu/archive-location/club-flamingo

Info:
Alternate Names:
Flamingo
First Document: 1940
Last Document: 1949
Address:
Club Flamingo
1027 N La Brea
Los Angeles, CA

Club Flamingo also listed on the US Navy Out of Bounds list:
https://one.usc.edu/reference/ladail...ives-riverside


Listing as the Flamingo Club in 1947 L.A. Phone Book:

https://i2.wp.com/martinturnbull.com...pg?w=684&ssl=1https://i0.wp.com/www.martinturnbull...ize=534%2C1600
https://martinturnbull.com/2015/01/1...elephone-book/


Below info from this LINK, where you can also view an entire Club Flamingo program.

A 1949 ad...

https://queermusicheritage.com/FEMAL...ngo-060749.jpg

A 1951 L.A. TImes clip:
https://queermusicheritage.com/FEMAL...ngo-041851.jpg

Author Jon Ponder, who is working on a book on Los Angeles
night clubs estimates the Flamingo Club was open from
circa 1941 until it's forced closing around April, 1951.


The LINK for this matchbook cover says: "Another hangout of Elizabeth Short." Apparently she hung out everywhere.

https://scontent-yyz1-1.cdninstagram...48&oe=5FB12C1E

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Speaking of Club Flamingo: :)

http://tvmegasite.net/images/primeti...ubflamingo.jpg

Police Squad Episode 1:
http://tvmegasite.net/images/primeti...stepisode/?N=D

riichkay Oct 14, 2020 11:51 PM

Excerpt from Hollywood Graham's reply to the Silverlake gay bars post:

"The corner of Silverlake and Sunset was a cleaners, Elite Market, radio-tv repair, shoe repair shop and a hardware store (formerly a soda shop). There was a Taxi stand there also". 

The '66 Ed Ruscha images confirm your recollection...

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds




https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds




https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

Martin Pal's above post of the 1947 phone directory shows the dance place was then Club Zarape.




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By July '74 the tower had been partially removed (an online building permit indicates it had been damaged in the '71 quake).....

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds




https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds




When Ruscha returned to the intersection in Aug. 1975 the east side of the building and most of the 2nd floor, and the tower, were in the process of demolition....

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds




https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds




https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds




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https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds



The "bones" of the west side of the building and a small portion of the 2nd floor (and the awning) go back to the original construction....

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

BDiH Oct 15, 2020 4:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Noir_Noir (Post 8980423)
The Headliner had an eleven foot tall neon sign installed in 1946.


https://i.imgur.com/O3QmmaF.jpg
ladbsdoc.lacity.org

Around the same time (1946) there was a place on Cahuenga called the Palace Gardens Barbecue. It was located at the top of the Cahuenga Pass. I have not been able to find an address or photo. Anyone know anything about it?

CaliNative Oct 15, 2020 6:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BDiH (Post 9073743)
Around the same time (1946) there was a place on Cahuenga called the Palace Gardens Barbecue. It was located at the top of the Cahuenga Pass. I have not been able to find an address or photo. Anyone know anything about it?

Would this have been before the Hollywood Freeway (101) was built through the pass? If it was just the road (Cahuenga), maybe there would have been room to build the place you describe. Maybe the freeway construction killed the project??? Or maybe the project was closer to the bottom of the pass on the Hollywood side or Valley side??? The "plans" look very preliminary. Not an actual finished plan. Maybe someone's dream that never materialized. Maybe somebody can find a digitized phone book page from that period to see if there was a listing for this place with an address. Martin Pal knows how to do this. Of course the name could have been changed to something other than Palace Gardens BBQ. If so, we're at a dead end.

Hollywood Graham Oct 15, 2020 1:27 PM

Reply to RICHKAY on Silverlake and Sunset photos, Thanks for further photos. I did forget Club Zarape but remembered this morning about it. If I remember right there was a clock in the tower above Zarape. One of the the owners had lived on Westerly Terrace and was murdered in front of his house in the 50's by the way.

Godzilla Oct 15, 2020 1:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7239003)
:previous: I thought that was Ava Gardner at first glance.
I checked out an aerial of 10333 Santa Monica Blvd. hoping to find a round foundation somewhere on the lot. -without success


Here are the screenshots I mentioned earlier from that same video. https://archive.org/details/prelinge...wnloads&page=2


In sequential order: -traveling west on Wilshire from Fairfax.

#1
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...907/AWewui.jpg
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I was wrong. The Royal Food Center was not on the site of Johnnie's Coffee Shop.



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Rather serene for Wilshire Blvd.


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BDiH Oct 15, 2020 7:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 9073795)
Would this have been before the Hollywood Freeway (101) was built through the pass? If it was just the road (Cahuenga), maybe there would have been room to build the place you describe. Maybe the freeway construction killed the project??? Or maybe the project was closer to the bottom of the pass on the Hollywood side or Valley side??? The "plans" look very preliminary. Not an actual finished plan. Maybe someone's dream that never materialized. Maybe somebody can find a digitized phone book page from that period to see if there was a listing for this place with an address. Martin Pal knows how to do this. Of course the name could have been changed to something other than Palace Gardens BBQ. If so, we're at a dead end.

Thanks for the input. I don't know on which side of the hill the restaurant was located. It did exist and if I had a reverse telephone book for 1946 I could go through the street addresses on the Hollywood and Valley side. I have looked for the Palace BBQ in the 1946 yellow pages and white pages, but can't find the restaurant.

CaliNative Oct 15, 2020 10:17 PM

The height of the McCarthy era. Look at those baggy pants on the men. My parents debated whether to put in a bomb shelter, but decided it would be pointless. In my elementary school we had weekly "duck and cover" drills. I thought they were pointless, but the teacher said we had to do them. That broadcasting school above the market looks pretty questionable. I wonder how many graduates landed jobs?

CityBoyDoug Oct 15, 2020 11:51 PM

What a sweet and most charming Nuclear bomb shelter. The flowers all neat and proper around the top/with grass and easy access steps. I have a picture of a mother in that bomb shelter wearing her pearl necklace.

Notice the lady entering the shelter...yes, those were the days of fur wraps....many even had parts of the animal sewn into the display, such as the head and feet. My aunt had one in the 1950's, I thought it was interesting but strange.

CityBoyDoug Oct 15, 2020 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9073123)
^^^

"Another hangout of Elizabeth Short." Apparently she hung out everywhere.

Miss Short did have a tragic life Martin but that was a funny line you wrote.

:D:D

CaliNative Oct 16, 2020 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 9074679)
What a sweet and most charming Nuclear bomb shelter. The flowers all neat and proper around the top/with grass and easy access steps. I have a picture of a mother in that bomb shelter wearing her pearl necklace.

Notice the lady entering the shelter...yes, those were the days of fur wraps....many even had parts of the animal sewn into the display, such as the head and feet. My aunt had one in the 1950's, I thought it was interesting but strange.

And boys after "Davy Crockett" aired on the Disneyland T.V. show in '55 wore raccoon hats with a dangling tail. I do believe Davy had one with the head still on. I had a Davy hat. Fess Parker got to play Davy and later Dan'l Boone. Quite the mountain man. Later he grew wine grapes and had a winery near Santa Barbara. I believe the guy who played Jedd Clampett on the Bev. Hillbillies played Davy sidekick Jim Bowie, the big knife guy. John Wayne played Davy in "The Alamo". I think he wore a raccoon hat, but still had the John Wayne walk and voice. Wayne was always Wayne no matter who he played.

CityBoyDoug Oct 16, 2020 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by JimCraig (Post 9069155)
I guess that's before you became CityBoyDoug...

Well Jim I was CBD at that time but was still riding bikes and trikes.

:notacrook::notacrook:

robeach11 Oct 16, 2020 2:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riichkay (Post 9073529)
Excerpt from Hollywood Graham's reply to the Silverlake gay bars post:

"The corner of Silverlake and Sunset was a cleaners, Elite Market, radio-tv repair, shoe repair shop and a hardware store (formerly a soda shop). There was a Taxi stand there also". 

The '66 Ed Ruscha images confirm your recollection...

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds





https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds




https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

Martin Pal's above post of the 1947 phone directory shows the dance place was then Club Zarape.




https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds




https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds




https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds




By July '74 the tower had been partially removed (an online building permit indicates it had been damaged in the '71 quake).....

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds




https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds




When Ruscha returned to the intersection in Aug. 1975 the east side of the building and most of the 2nd floor, and the tower, were in the process of demolition....

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds




https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds




https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds




https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds




https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds



The "bones" of the west side of the building and a small portion of the 2nd floor (and the awning) go back to the original construction....

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds


On the marquee, we see Rene Bloch and His Orchestra. Bloch was known known for his Space Age Pop stylings. Not on the level of say, Esquivel... but he had a good career.
Amazingly, I believe Rene (born in 1925) is still alive in 2020.

CaliNative Oct 16, 2020 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 9074679)
What a sweet and most charming Nuclear bomb shelter. The flowers all neat and proper around the top/with grass and easy access steps. I have a picture of a mother in that bomb shelter wearing her pearl necklace.

Notice the lady entering the shelter...yes, those were the days of fur wraps....many even had parts of the animal sewn into the display, such as the head and feet. My aunt had one in the 1950's, I thought it was interesting but strange.

The bomb shelter era was also the era of the uranium prospecting craze. People would buy geiger counters and go out to the Mohave or Nevada or Utah desert and try to find uranium deposits and strike it rich. My dad bought a geiger and went out into the Mohave but just got a bad sunburn. The craze fizzled out quickly since so few found anything. Pop would have done better panning for gold, but uranium seemed more patriotic. The '50s were a strange time, but now is even stranger I guess.

In the distance in the bomb shelter pic there is a sign that says "Schlitz, the beer that made Milwaukee famous". Did it really? When I lived in Van Nuys as a boy there used to be a big Schlitz brewery just off Woodman near our house. Did Schlitz make Van Nuys famous? Doubt it.

Scott Charles Oct 16, 2020 1:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 9074973)
People would buy geiger counters and go out to the Mohave or Nevada or Utah desert and try to find uranium deposits and strike it rich. My dad bought a geiger and went out into the Mohave but just got a bad sunburn.

Interesting, CaliNative - the spelling I've always known is Mojave. I've never seen the word spelled with an H before. But according to Wikipedia, either spelling can be used.

https://i.imgur.com/IF9gpv9l.jpg

Quote:

The spelling Mojave originates from the Spanish language while the spelling Mohave comes from modern English. Both are used today, although the Mojave Tribal Nation officially uses the spelling Mojave

Martin Pal Oct 16, 2020 7:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 9074701)
Wayne was always Wayne no matter who he played.

"Silly wabbit."

https://render.fineartamerica.com/im...d-lee-guss.jpg

Martin Pal Oct 16, 2020 7:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BDiH (Post 9073743)
Around the same time (1946) there was a place on Cahuenga called the Palace Gardens Barbecue. It was located at the top of the Cahuenga Pass. I have not been able to find an address or photo. Anyone know anything about it?
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Not found anything more yet about the Palace Gardens Barbecue location, but speaking of her, on the Elizabeth Short in Hollywood website, Chapter 2 - The Hawthorne Hotel Crowd, the place is mentioned: LINK

(Hawthorne Hotel at 1611 North Orange Drive, just behind the Roosevelt Hotel on Hollywood boulevard.)

"Several of the girls at the Hawthorne worked at the Palace Garden Barbecue, where Lynn was a waitress."

This was in 1946.

BDiH Oct 16, 2020 7:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9075484)
Not found anything more yet about the Palace Gardens Barbecue location, but speaking of her, on the Elizabeth Short in Hollywood website, Chapter 2 - The Hawthorne Hotel Crowd, the place is mentioned: LINK

(Hawthorne Hotel at 1611 North Orange Drive, just behind the Roosevelt Hotel on Hollywood boulevard.)

"Several of the girls at the Hawthorne worked at the Palace Garden Barbecue, where Lynn was a waitress."

This was in 1946.

Thank you. I wish we had a photo, but maybe one day.

Lwize Oct 16, 2020 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9075450)

John Wayne - in a bunny suit?!

Is nothing sacred?

CaliNative Oct 17, 2020 5:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Lwize (Post 9075730)
John Wayne - in a bunny suit?!

Is nothing sacred?

Must have been on "Laugh In". Can't imagine anywhere else where Wayne would don a bunny suit, except MAYBE the Dean Martin or Carol Burnett show. Nixon even appeared on Laugh In in 1968 before he won the election and clumsily said "sock it to me?" I guess he thought it would gain him votes. Maybe it did. Laugh In was big in '68.


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