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I suspect the real issue for U of C is that there are one or two property owner holdouts within this rectangle—the gas station, perhaps. This would certainly seem a proper use for redevelopment authority. |
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Also, it seems that we're going to have to wait over the next 6-9 months for a specific location. |
I'd be cautiously optimistic about the potential for a library to spur development outside its gates. As we've seen over on 53rd, there's untapped latent demand for retail on the South Side, but it's been just below a critical mass -- and adding just a few visitors should be enough to take it over the top.
The east end of downtown Little Rock was already pretty far along the revitalization path, but the Clinton Library really did focus a lot of attention and money on the area. Quote:
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Foundation vs. Presidential Center
Something that's unclear to me – Marty seemed to be repeatedly asserting that the Foundation would be headquartered here in addition to the library + museum (both of which we'd known about before). Will the Foundation be part of the Presidential Center, or headquartered separately? (Marty also mentioned that the Foundation wouldn't be partnered with UChicago as the library and museum will be.)
I'm wondering because it'd be interesting to consider where the Foundation might be headquartered. I'm guessing they won't need enough space for a standalone structure, but I'd personally love to see them on the vacant parcel next to Johnson Publishing on S. Michigan Ave. |
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Honestly, I wish this whole silly notion of presidential libraries (read: egotistical monuments) would just go away. The national archives can quite readily handle the duty of preserving presidential papers and documents without the need for pseudo palaces to store them. I'd be more impressed with all that fundraising power going to a more worthy cause than construction contracts. |
If anything I think the security requirements help the cause of putting the library on the west lots as opposed to the park. I don't see how if you put the actual library in the park how you would have the necessary security parameter.
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"The Obama Foundation announced plans to open offices on the South Side by the end of the year." |
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Also, your argument is weird considering NARA will still be the overarching authority for this Presidential center (like it is for all other Presidential libraries). Would you prefer that all of the hundreds of thousands of documents, files, emails, letters, laws, proposals, photographs for each and ever President past be located in one giant building...oh wait, the Old Post Office building downtown!! :D kidding aside, not really sure what your beef is against such a structure, considering that most government buildings, regardless of usage are ego-palaces of excess...should they all just be located in DC, is that what you'd prefer? Edit: paytonc's link about how the Clinton Library helped foster local redevelopment is pretty good, I suggest you read it. http://www.arktimes.com/arkansas/ten...nt?oid=3541156 |
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But maybe the indoor waterpark and automatic weapons shooting range will make this presidential library different. |
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if you were doing research on presidents youre telling me youd rather fly to 10 different places just to scan documents? |
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in the case of the Obama library, its being privately financed so any risk is obviously diminished. but i still guarantee you that it will exist far more as a point of civic pride than any sort of economic engine. which is totally fine. http://www.marketplace.org/topics/ec...lly-pay-cities Quote:
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I don't know why you can't understand why a President would want to have their 'legacy house' in a location other than DC, unless you relish being a contrarian for no reason. |
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In principle, I don't like the idea of putting another huge building in the park, but I think it might be stronger from an urban design standpoint. A building with such stringent security requirements should not be next to a transit station; that land is better suited for walkable mixed use development, possibly the offices of the Obama Foundation which is not Federal. |
So out of curiosity, now that we know the Presidential Center will be in Chicago, which of the locations do you prefer? Jackson Park? Or Washington Park?
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At Garfield & King, there's still the chance that the building would be on land not part of the historic park, with only a formal garden or forecourt of some kind intruding into the Olmsted landscape of Washington Park. There's also a greater need for a redevelopment catalyst, and plenty of vacant land where neighbors can set up cut-rate parking lots and T-shirt shops. The site is adjacent to an L station, so visitors can easily visualize the trip from downtown hotels.
At 61st & Cornell, all the land within sight is either already part of the University of Chicago campus or Jackson Park. The transit links to downtown are more difficult for visitors to understand. |
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