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I took these these proposals from NJT , MNRR , RPA and some are mine which I marked "My Idea". If there are no markings , then you can read about it on wiki.. The list below took me 3hrs to slowly put together and i'm sure I messed something up...:haha: I will post the station list later....
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=...56246,9.876709 Current Network Hudson line Harlem line New Haven line New Canaan Branch Waterbury Branch Northeast Corridor North Jersey Coast line Morristown line Montclair - Boonton line Gladstone Branch Danbury Branch Port Jervis line Main line Bergen County line Raritan Valley line Pascack Valley line Atlantic City line RiverLINE Under Construction / Under Study Lackawanna Rail line Hell Gate line West Side line Gateway Project to Penn Station & GCT Proposed Network West Shore line Red Bank - Forked River line Monmouth JCT line Matawan line South Amboy Branch (my idea) Kingsland Branch (RPA) Cross Chester line (my idea) Lehigh Valley Rail Extensions Danbury Branch Extension to New Milford Old Piermont Branch (RPA) Northwest Rail link (RPA) Old Boonton Branch (RPA) Beacon / Maybrook line West Trenton line Pompton Branch (RPA) Cape May line West Trenton Branch Pennsville line (My idea) Glassboro line Millville Extension -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Electric Lines Powered @ 25kV/60Hz North Jersey Coast line (South Amboy to Long Branch Morristown line Montclair - Boonton line Gladstone Branch Red Bank - Forked River line Monmouth JCT line Matawan line South Amboy Branch (my idea) Gateway Project to Penn Station & GCT Electric lines Powered @ 12.5kV/25Hz Northeast Corridor North Jersey Coast line (Rahway to South Amboy) Electric lines Powered @ 12.5 kV/60 Hz Danbury Branch Extension to New Milford Danbury Branch New Haven line New Canaan Branch Cross Chester line (my idea) Electric lines Powered @ 11 kV/25Hz Hell Gate line Electric lines Powered @ 750 V DC Hudson line (Grand Central to Croton Harmon) Harlem line (Grand Central to Southeast) New Haven line (Grand Central to Pelham) Diesel lines Hudson line (Croton Harmon to Poughkeepsie) Harlem line (Southeast to Wassaic) Waterbury Branch Main line Bergen County line West Shore line West Side line Raritan Valley line Lehigh Valley Rail Extensions Old Piermont Branch (RPA) Pascack Valley line Kingsland Branch (RPA) Northwest Rail link (RPA) Old Boonton Branch (RPA) Beacon / Maybrook line West Trenton line Montclair - Boonton line (MSU to Denville) Pompton Branch (RPA) Atlantic City line Cape May line RiverLINE West Trenton Branch Pennsville line (My idea) Glassboro line Millville Extension New Jersey Transit/NJDOT/PATH/DPRA/Metro North/CDOT/NYSDOT Rail Numbers Heavy Rail Jersey City (PATH) - 263,000 > 470,000 (2030) Lindenwold (Patco) - 36,600 > 72,000 (2030) Light Rail NJ Gold Coast Network (HBLR) - 55,600 > 120,500 (2030) Newark Network (NLRT) - 21,200 > 260,000 (2030) South Jersey Network - 11,000 > 75,400 (2030) Regional Rail Northeast Corridor - 117,360 > 210,000 (2030) New Haven Line - 115,948 > 240,000 (2030) Morris&Essex Network - 58,400 > 85,000 (2030) Harlem Line - 55,260 > 75,300 (2030) Hudson Line - 50,509 > 74,100 (2030) Main/Bergen/Port Jervis lines - 35,700 > 51,000 (2030) North Jersey Coast line - 26,650 > 54,800 (2030) Raritan Valley line - 21,800 > 57,200 (2030) *Meadowlands line - 15,920 (2012) Montclair-Boonton line - 15,750 > 35,100 (2030) Pascack Valley line - 9,200 > 19,500 (2030) *Yankees-163rd Game Day Ridership - 7,238 (2012) Danbury Branch - 5,890 > 24,400 (2030) New Canaan Branch - 5,640 > 7,200 (2030) Shore Line East - 3,250 > 7,180 (2030) Atlantic City line - 2,995 > 7,400 (2030) Waterbury Branch - 740 > 4,270 (2030) *Average Ridership during events Future Systems , Readjusted to factor in new Job Growth projects and population trends... Most LRT and Some Commuter Rail lines will replace overcrowded bus routes , I did take that ridership and throw it into the numbers along with factoring in Job growth , TOD and general Transit growth. Gold Coast Light Metro - 350,000 Manhattan Access/Gateway Network - 270,000 I-287 Rail Corridor - 135,000 MOM Network - 120,000 Westchester LRT Network - 110,700 New Brunswick LRT/BRT Network - 85,000 Newark-Paterson LRT- 75,200 Newark-Elizabeth LRT - 70,500 Hartford BRT/LRT Network - 65,800 Knowledge Corridor - 68,500 Northern Branch LRT - 66,000 Hell Gate line - 65,000 New Haven Streetcar Network - 60,000 Newark-Jersey City LRT - 59,100 Route 4 & 17 Bus Rapid Transit - 58,300 US 46 & Route 3 Bus Rapid Transit - 55,900 PATH Airport/Elizabeth Extension - 54,900 US 1 Bus Rapid Transit - 50,300 Garden State Parkway Busway - 48,100 Newark-Harrison-Kearny Streetcar Network - 45,900 Stamford Streetcar Network - 42,600 West Shore line - 40,200 Bridgeport BRT Network - 39,300 Glassboro/Millville LRT - 37,900 Philpsburg Connections - 35,600 US 22 Bus Rapid Transit - 35,400 Various Infill Stations - 35,000 Bergen-Passaic LRT - 30,400 Lackawanna line - 27,100 West Trenton line - 22,500 West Side Line - 20,700 Northwest Link/Pompton Connector - 19,200 Manchester Branch - 15,500 Mount Holly Branch - 14,200 West Trenton LRT - 12,800 Hammonton LRT - 10,400 Bristol Branch - 9,800 Princeton Streetcar - 9,300 Pennsville LRT - 7,200 Beacon/Maybrook Line - 5,500 Middletown Branch - 5,000 Central Corridor - 4,800 Eastern Link - 4,400 Cape May line - 4,200 Bridgeton line - 3,200 |
Having the Danbury line extend to New Milford would be nice . . . even though it's already a 2 hr ride from Danbury to Grand Central.
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Didn't you do this list before? I've seen this already.
Also, this is the US not China.. seems like a dream map. Maybe a few of those will get done. You missed the PATH to newark airport -- that would be very useful. Newark airport would become more desirable and more prestigious if it had a one-seat-ride to manhattan. |
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Here's the former thread: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...=177978&page=3 |
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Transit fantasy maps are an allowed topic here. Many forumers have made them over the course of many years. If it's not a topic you want to discuss, just don't open the thread.
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Update on the Glassboro line http://articles.philly.com/2012-02-1...den-nj-transit
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Man, a NJ Transit line to Cape May would be sweet. Traffic during the shore season is a nightmare (like 3 hours from Philly), I'd gladly pay the fare to avoid it. Ofcourse if and when it gets built, I'll probably be old and grey, but at least the next generation would be able to enjoy it.
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Yeah fantasy maps are fine.
A good map with all those proposals would be sweet. I've actually been working on a South Jersey network and I'm looking at what it would take to effect it. See here. BTW if you're interested here's the map. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-a92qX9Gwnf...muter+rail.png |
Now THAT's what i'm talking about! I really do think that NJTransit should pay attention to South Jersey. I agree that traffic in the summer for South Jersey is a nightmare. They don't have the road network that North Jersey has! NJ55 is a freeway that just disappears and becomes an elongated bottleneck all the way to Cape May. US 322, forget it!
I like that So-Jersey hub there. |
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http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/a.../JobCenter.jpg I guess this leads to my question that yes a lot of people commute to Philadelphia but 179,373 jobs are within the above red box and the majority of those workers do not live in the same town that they work. Do you think rail is able to serve work commuters for this area or are we stuck being attached to cars? |
Jelly Roll, the big problem of the Cherry Hill/Mt. Laurel jobs nexus is that it's in the middle of the largest gap between existing railroads. The best solution there is ultimately light rail.
I haven't really developed a workable ridership projection system, but my eyeballing is that with reasonable equipment and service the Ft. Dix and Millville lines should have the highest ridership, probably on a par with the West Trenton and Lansdale/Doylestown Lines across the Delaware, and the lowest ridership (at least in the commuter section) would come on the Salem Line. That line should still get okay overall ridership, on a par with the Norristown Line. The legacy network feeds into Camden; once it's fully functional, it can be tied into the existing Regional Rail network for full regional coverage. |
Your Map except a few lines was based on the NJT 2020 plan , which is now pushed till the 2050s... Alot of there plans got sheveled , but are starting to heat up again... TOD will play a huge role and expanding things in South Jersey.
The Cape May line is owned by NJT and leased to the Seashore Museum....service was supposed to be up and running by now but for some reason it got sheveled. It wasn't that expensive to restore , costing between 30-50 Million $$$. It was only to have a few stations. Not that you have there.... The Glassboro line once it get fully built and TOD erupts along that corridor i'm sure will see pressure to extend to Millville then Bridgeton , then Pennsgrove. I can't see Salem though , its to isolated and not much of a population base. The Mount Holly Branch is also owned by NJT , there was to be service at least to Mount Holly by now but that stalled.... I doubt you could get any support for service to Camden vs Philly. I know they looked at LRT , but decided on Regional Rail. Pemberton recently released a smart growth plan for its town , the Toms River Extension has been thought of. The NJDOT owns those tracks if i'm not mistaken. The Amboy Branch i had it originally going to Bordentown , but for some reason the Map crapped out. Bordentown is as far as it would go , then you would have to upgrade the platforms and signals , that would be messy. The Amboy Branch has a real chance when the MOM network gets built , so does the Tuckerton line , there in the full build out plans or if opposition to the Matawan line becomes a huge issue.... As for the Atlantic City Dinky service NJT proposed a Bus Rapid Transit system for AC and surround cities and onto the Mainland. |
Actually that area around AC would be perfect for BRT. As it stands loads there would be light. The Mays Landing route would be busier, as it hits more destinations (a mall, a college).
I have a hunch my ideas and the NJT 2020 thingy you're citing look alike because they are both developed off of maximizing use of existing resources. As it stands all the lines I'm using are either active freight lines or (mostly) available ROW*. --I was thinking of terminating Amboy at Bordentown but Burlington is a somewhat bigger employment center and therefore a better terminus. Getting it to Bordentown, however, is still adequate. ________ *There's a minor exception going down to Tuckerton where the easement was erased and a new would would hence need to be carved out through some back yards. |
Here's an update on the Lackawanna Railway...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...12IMG_5136.JPG http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Trackwork.JPG |
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If you are interested in employment numbers and how workers currently commute to work and from where this link is helpful for Southern NJ http://www.dvrpc.org/asp/mcddataNavigator/ |
That map is so cool, as I can see the small village I used to spend my summers in(at my grandparents house), Tuckahoe.
I did not even think people outside of that village, knew it to put it on a map :) Having spent my summers there, I agree the traffic from Philly to the shore is bad. And given the development of the shore towns, rail could work, as that is how people used to get to the shore. But the question is, will people ride it now, or will they still want their cars. |
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Tuckahoe has a nice train station... http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4054/4...db7b44d1_o.jpg METRO-NORTH--Tuckahoe Station by milantram, on Flickr http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4008/4...8bb41e68_o.jpg METRO-NORTH--8007 passing Tuckahoe IB by milantram, on Flickr |
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