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TechTalkGuy May 23, 2018 1:12 AM

:previous: This is seriously a thin tower. :hyper:

NYguy May 23, 2018 2:44 AM

MAY 22, 2018


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Zerton May 23, 2018 5:06 PM

This is such an eclectic era in architecture.

Prezrezc May 23, 2018 6:42 PM

IMHonestO;

Here's the thing, though.

Eclectic, yes; but truly daring? Not really.

And, matter of fact, not altogether necessary.

With the assumptions that American cities that wish to grow have:

A. The capital to do so
and
B. A mindset conducive to understanding how prevalent economic conditions affect how that capital is spent,

there needs to be a keen understanding of how to harness architectural expressions around the things they need to grow.

And in that respect, the old, yet trusted algorithm of "form follows function" needs to change with it.

That said, with more artistic liberties having been taken by American architects than ever before, there is now the capability to think beyond boxes in which city planners have sequestered themselves since I daresay the 1950's.

This engineering marvel of a beauty of a future city landmark shows how both concepts work hand in hand.

The "F-cubed" (F³) idea applies especially to 53W53/TV when you consider this as MOMA's signature tower.

Nordstrom, the hulking towers at HY and WTC show certain levels of boldness or, if you like, brute presence; but in genreal, their function--and how economic circumstances have in various ways have changed or diminished that over the years--limits what visual dramatics could've otherwise come to fruition.

Somewhat conversely, this, along with the other present/future supertalls of Billionaire's Row/57th do flaunt their grace; but again, their function as magnets for insanely rich internationals is served.

We are blessed to have a tower of this quality in this city for all these reasons. Because in vast swaths of Asian urbanity from Dubai to Shangai, it'd soon find itself a quarter-occupied vanity project with perhaps minimal thought given to actual purpose.

NYguy May 26, 2018 3:51 AM

https://www.instagram.com/p/BjNcDQGl...by=ajglassberg

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artspook May 26, 2018 5:32 AM

"It could T/O now
And holy crap that would be tall
For the area.
But instead,
SHoP makes no small plans.
What do you think, art spook?' - Skyguy 7

dont know Skyguy . .
I find this building more & more entertaining . .
as it is now, it's great . . somewhat higher it'll be very striking . .
all the way up, its proportions will be somewhat
ridiculously horrorflick-ish . .
but then, I sometimes prefer spooky things . .

TechTalkGuy May 26, 2018 10:03 PM

This is why Midtown rules!! ;)

Cypherus May 26, 2018 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prezrezc (Post 8197213)
IMHonestO;

Here's the thing, though.

Eclectic, yes; but truly daring? Not really.

And, matter of fact, not altogether necessary.

With the assumptions that American cities that wish to grow have:

A. The capital to do so
and
B. A mindset conducive to understanding how prevalent economic conditions affect how that capital is spent,

there needs to be a keen understanding of how to harness architectural expressions around the things they need to grow.

And in that respect, the old, yet trusted algorithm of "form follows function" needs to change with it.

That said, with more artistic liberties having been taken by American architects than ever before, there is now the capability to think beyond boxes in which city planners have sequestered themselves since I daresay the 1950's.

This engineering marvel of a beauty of a future city landmark shows how both concepts work hand in hand.

The "F-cubed" (F³) idea applies especially to 53W53/TV when you consider this as MOMA's signature tower.

Nordstrom, the hulking towers at HY and WTC show certain levels of boldness or, if you like, brute presence; but in genreal, their function--and how economic circumstances have in various ways have changed or diminished that over the years--limits what visual dramatics could've otherwise come to fruition.

Somewhat conversely, this, along with the other present/future supertalls of Billionaire's Row/57th do flaunt their grace; but again, their function as magnets for insanely rich internationals is served.

We are blessed to have a tower of this quality in this city for all these reasons. Because in vast swaths of Asian urbanity from Dubai to Shangai, it'd soon find itself a quarter-occupied vanity project with perhaps minimal thought given to actual purpose.

Good points. Also, I had a communications professor tell me once that there was no point in using $100 words along with convoluted grammar, when $5 words were good enough to connect with people...

Prezrezc May 26, 2018 10:58 PM

^^
That's just how I "roll', as it were.
Call it a weakness on my part...As long as make my points well enough to keep the mods happy and my colleagues interested, I'm satisfied.

BTW That terra-cotta is a hell of a lot shinier than I thought it would be. The dawn/dusk pics will be stunning.

NYguy May 27, 2018 6:46 PM

https://www.instagram.com/p/BjSYwMjh...y=squirestwina

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Nghi Huynh

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TechTalkGuy May 27, 2018 10:19 PM

:goodpost: Very nice Central Park views. :)

NYguy May 29, 2018 3:57 AM

tectonic Photo

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NYguy May 29, 2018 4:11 PM

Geoff Kayton

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chris08876 May 29, 2018 5:58 PM

The angle from 5th Ave is excellent. Probably best angle to really appreciate the finer details.

TechTalkGuy May 29, 2018 9:54 PM

I think allot of people will be surprised when this is built.
This tower screams TALL! :D

rofina May 29, 2018 10:45 PM

I'm legitimately having a hard time imagining this thing topped out, considering how tall it already looks.

NYguy May 30, 2018 2:37 AM

^ It will have everyone looking in awe.



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aquablue May 30, 2018 3:54 AM

Far too thin for the purists, blah blah, but it's a very impressive spire and will have some heads a turning soon enough.

patriotizzy May 30, 2018 4:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aquablue (Post 8203979)
Far too thin for the purists, blah blah, but it's a very impressive spire and will have some heads a turning soon enough.

It has my second head churning and explodin'.

Jibba May 30, 2018 5:56 PM

I'll wait for the final result, but the more I look at this, I'm like, "is this Deco pastiche??" I wish the allusions were a little more subtle. The form of the wall covering against the obviously modern form of the structure makes for a bit of a conflict. Granted, that relational quality won't be perceived once the structure is fully covered over, but for now it's aesthetic dis-harmony.


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