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J81 Oct 30, 2019 1:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8732328)
I'm shocked !

In other news, (you know, one involving a real airline !)

AF will add a 4th daily flight, 3x a week on CDG-YUL come summer 2020.

Next summer should look something like this.

AF 24x weekly YUL-CDG (increase from 21x weekly this summer)
TS 20x weekly YUL-CDG
AC 14x weekly YUL-CDG
Level 4x weekly YUL-ORY (increase from 3x weekly this summer)
Corsair 7x weekly YUL-ORY

Total: 69x weekly frequencies between YUL and Paris.


Average of 10 flights per day is impressive! Be nice to see the A380 back though.

Bourkky Oct 30, 2019 2:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8732328)
TS 20x weekly YUL-CDG

According to this article, TS will be 17 weekly next summer. I did a search online and it looks like the 3 extra flights will be on Tuesdays, Thusrdays and Fridays on A321.

https://canadianaviationnews.wordpre...-destinations/

whywhyzee Oct 30, 2019 2:45 AM

Impressive numbers on YUL-PAR, 66x weekly flights is massive. Only one flight behind YYZ-LON which will be 67, both should be within a couple percent of one another size wise for the largest intercontinental routes from Canada, and definitely among the to 5 or 10 on the continent.

People_talking Oct 30, 2019 3:50 AM

Westjet flights from YYC-FCO now look to be bookable, expect the official announcement at ~8 am Calgary time tomorrow (Oct 30).

Alexcaban Oct 30, 2019 5:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whywhyzee (Post 8733204)
Impressive numbers on YUL-PAR, 66x weekly flights is massive. Only one flight behind YYZ-LON which will be 67, both should be within a couple percent of one another size wise for the largest intercontinental routes from Canada, and definitely among the to 5 or 10 on the continent.

When you factor in YUL-France, I wonder where that stands.

thenoflyzone Oct 30, 2019 11:00 AM

As per airlineroute.net

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Air France S20 Eastern Canada service increase

Paris CDG – Montreal 29JUN20 – 21AUG20 Increase from 21 to 24 weekly
AF340 CDG1900 – 2040YUL 772 135
AF341 YUL2245 – 1140+1CDG 772 135

Paris CDG – Toronto 30JUN20 – 30AUG20 Increase from 10 to 14 weekly
AF386 CDG1700 – 1920YYZ 772 D
AF393 YYZ2120 – 1050+1CDG 772 D

thenoflyzone Oct 30, 2019 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by People_talking (Post 8733266)
Westjet flights from YYC-FCO now look to be bookable

;)

Like I said on the Calgary page last week, clearly targeted at all of western Canada, as YVR has no non-stop to FCO. They're clearly betting it all on YYC. Wish them the best of luck.

begratto Oct 30, 2019 1:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexcaban (Post 8733337)
When you factor in YUL-France, I wonder where that stands.

I looked at the July 2020 schedule, Air Canada and Transat have 47 flights/week between Montreal and France outside of Paris

Transat 27X/week
Bâle-Mulhouse : 2X/week
Bordeaux : 4X/week
Lyon : 5X/week
Marseille : 5X/week
Nantes : 4X/week
Nice : 2X/week
Toulouse : 5X/week

Air Canada 20X/week
Bordeaux : 3X/week
Lyon : 6X/week
Marseille : 1X/week
Nice : 5X/week
Toulouse : 5X/week

That's a total of 116 flights/week between Montreal and France. 16.6 flights per day on average - from May to October
There are also 4 flights/week between Quebec City and Paris

Alexcaban Oct 30, 2019 3:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by begratto (Post 8733464)
I looked at the July 2020 schedule, Air Canada and Transat have 47 flights/week between Montreal and France outside of Paris

Transat 27X/week
Bâle-Mulhouse : 2X/week
Bordeaux : 4X/week
Lyon : 5X/week
Marseille : 5X/week
Nantes : 4X/week
Nice : 2X/week
Toulouse : 5X/week

Air Canada 20X/week
Bordeaux : 3X/week
Lyon : 6X/week
Marseille : 1X/week
Nice : 5X/week
Toulouse : 5X/week

That's a total of 116 flights/week between Montreal and France. 16.6 flights per day on average - from May to October
There are also 4 flights/week between Quebec City and Paris

Pretty sure Marseille on AC is 4 weekly.

craneSpotter Oct 30, 2019 5:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8733407)
;)

Like I said on the Calgary page last week, clearly targeted at all of western Canada, as YVR has no non-stop to FCO. They're clearly betting it all on YYC. Wish them the best of luck.

If AC was smart they would counter with a similar YVR-FCO seasonal service. Maybe they don't have the plane...or maybe they can make more money on some other route (this route would have thin margins I assume being leisure)

Truenorth00 Oct 30, 2019 6:05 PM

All these flights to CDG. And I'm still surprised there's no YOW-CDG.

Jaws Oct 30, 2019 6:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Truenorth00 (Post 8733860)
All these flights to CDG. And I'm still surprised there's no YOW-CDG.

You're funny. I'm still looking for YEG to FRA, LHR, JFK/EWR, ORD... In WS/AC world YOW/YEG/YWG should just be thankful that all the flights aren't turboprops.

SignalHillHiker Oct 30, 2019 7:42 PM

We're not letting it die. :haha: Obviously the pressure is on the airport authority to "buy" it back, but things like this help keep it top of mind here.

https://i.postimg.cc/hvSdKv5H/Capture.png

zahav Oct 30, 2019 8:45 PM

Interesting that WS is really pushing the connections from SFO, LAX, PDX, and SEA as well. According to their press release last week, they are seeing quite a bit of connecting traffic. That is really big for them, and very different from the Westjet of yesteryear. I am surprised that they are launching Rome before any Asian destination honestly, you'd think a Tokyo flight would be way more popular than Rome

Zmonkey Oct 30, 2019 9:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8732328)
I'm shocked !

In other news, (you know, one involving a real airline !)

AF will add a 4th daily flight, 3x a week on CDG-YUL come summer 2020.

Next summer should look something like this.

AF 24x weekly YUL-CDG (increase from 21x weekly this summer)
TS 20x weekly YUL-CDG
AC 14x weekly YUL-CDG
Level 4x weekly YUL-ORY (increase from 3x weekly this summer)
Corsair 7x weekly YUL-ORY

Total: 69x weekly frequencies between YUL and Paris.

Poor Ottawa can't even get 3x a week to Paris. And and 90 minutes down the road 69/weeklies. Wonder if anyone will throw a A321 at Ottawa - Paris. But I think the good people of Ottawa would even settle for a Las Vegas flight at this point.

p_xavier Oct 30, 2019 9:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zmonkey (Post 8734207)
Poor Ottawa can't even get 3x a week to Paris. And and 90 minutes down the road 69/weeklies. Wonder if anyone will throw a A321 at Ottawa - Paris. But I think the good people of Ottawa would even settle for a Las Vegas flight at this point.

Well yeah, because it's 90 minutes down the road... Ottawa's airport is a haslsle to get to from central Ottawa and Orleans, I've always found it easier to get to YUL by train/car. Sucks for YOW though. I do YYZ for transantlatic flies to catch the LHR flight in the morning. Overnight flies kill me.

Unfortunately the idiotic LRT plan for YOW will not help me change my mind.

Zmonkey Oct 30, 2019 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by p_xavier (Post 8734223)
Well yeah, because it's 90 minutes down the road... Ottawa's airport is a haslsle to get to from central Ottawa and Orleans, I've always found it easier to get to YUL by train/car. Sucks for YOW though. I do YYZ for transantlatic flies to catch the LHR flight in the morning. Overnight flies kill me.

Unfortunately the idiotic LRT plan for YOW will not help me change my mind.

Is it that hard to get to? It seems its under 30 minutes from downtown/Byward market area. I am usually heading to an area near the General hospital though. But I just find it odd London Ontario has a Vegas flight but Ottawa doesn't? London to Pearson is also about 90 minutes. In our area tons of people go to conferences in Vegas, and I assume the tech people to do. That alone should get a Rouge flight to Vegas 3x a week from Thanksgiving to Easter.

qprcanada Oct 31, 2019 2:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Zmonkey (Post 8734302)
Is it that hard to get to? It seems its under 30 minutes from downtown/Byward market area. I am usually heading to an area near the General hospital though. But I just find it odd London Ontario has a Vegas flight but Ottawa doesn't? London to Pearson is also about 90 minutes. In our area tons of people go to conferences in Vegas, and I assume the tech people to do. That alone should get a Rouge flight to Vegas 3x a week from Thanksgiving to Easter.

AC and wants to push YOW traffic through it's hubs at YUL and YYZ. It cheaper to run Rapidair to YUL and YYZ than have any sort of a base at YOW for wide bodies.

WS is the same, forcing you to connect in YYZ for most destinations.

I've given up on YOW for anything other than domestic flights, LHR and package holidays and drive to YUL. There are so many more airline options at YUL even from TS and very few of them have a codeshare to allow you to connect from YOW. I don't travel to the US for work or pleasure.

I don't think it will change in the near future unless we get a large increase in population in Ottawa.

Airboy Oct 31, 2019 2:56 PM

just wondering about the airport numbers for Terrace BC. with all the people heading into Kitamat I suspect the numbers are quite high. Looking at the flight schedule for my trip in, there are quite a few flights every day. in fact there is a direct flight from YEG. But most are from YVR.

There will be a camp for 4000 workers up by this time next year.

FlyYOW Oct 31, 2019 3:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zmonkey (Post 8734302)
Is it that hard to get to? It seems its under 30 minutes from downtown/Byward market area. I am usually heading to an area near the General hospital though.

Don't buy the total and complete nonsense. This axe has been grinding for a while.


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