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Hmm I wish this building wasn't going up...at least not in that location, or with that design. It throws off the grandeur of the centrality and importance of 111w57 along central park (even if its not perfectly centered).
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Looking at this photo that NYguy posted a few days ago, I must say I would rather not see many more spires in NYC. The absurdly excessive spires of B of A, NYTimes, and 4 Times Sq have already made NYC look like a city whose skyscrapers love to cheat. On the other hand, a fat lit spire like the "lantern" atop Philadelphia's Comcast Innovation & Tech Ctr might be acceptable.
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If anything, what is needed are not spires in the sense of a tall architectural, thin element, but more crowns similar in style to ESB or Chrysler. Towers that don't have to rely on long rods, but crowns that are the spires. :yes: Exhibit A... https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1824/4...8297c289_b.jpg Credit: Tectonic |
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Honestly, I'd even be happy with four short ~100' spires on each corner of the parapet like 175 Greenwich originally had.
All this tower needs is a measly 266' spire and it will surpass the CN Tower as the tallest free-standing structure in the western hemisphere. (although it is still 15' shorter in terms of highest occupied floor as the CN Tower (Space Deck/Sky Pod) |
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We need more spires in the vain of the ESB, Chrysler and of course my soon to be favorite One Vandy. |
:previous: Ahhhh, very inspiring. ;)
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Those are one and the same in terms of crowning the skyline. The city could use more of both, and not more flat roofed towers. The New York everyone knows and loves is not defined by a flat roof. Buildings like Chrysler, and the Empire State are the majestic towers that define the skyline. It is a massive skyline, and can support more, and it will never get old. Ask a child to draw a skyline, and they will likely top if with some form of spire or crown, not a dull, flat-roofed box. I'm a fan of the box, but not crowning our majestic skyline. https://www.instagram.com/p/BkWeIJ_n...by=theromanfox https://scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram...74982656_n.jpg https://www.instagram.com/p/BkSd1FDH...-by=cityrealty https://scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram...13175552_n.jpg https://www.instagram.com/p/BkV7-A_g...y=mchlanglo793 https://scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram...78847232_n.jpg https://www.instagram.com/p/BkWSOb-F...y=thatmikekwan https://scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram...90944000_n.jpg |
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Shanghai Tower (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=71815) G Land Super Tower (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=104213) Ping An International Finance Centre (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=47866) Lotte World Tower (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=84323) Tianjin CTF Finance Centre (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=88473) Guangzhou CTF Finance Centre (http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=39970) |
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You're wasting time and effort showing me buildings in other cities that aren't New York. This tower is rising on the New York skyline. A skinny spire is the same as a skinny antenna. And btw, the spire that was designed for this one was more complex than that. This tower as it is designed needs it's spire. They aren't going to redesign the entire top of the building. As far as this skyline goes, there's a reason people don't want buildings as tall to rise near the ESB - it's the defining element of the skyline, that spire (and even more so) that antenna have been a defining peak that skylines around the world have emulated. Yet, we are in one of the largest, and definitely the most skyline altering building boom this city has ever had. How many spires are coming out of it? mounasaad https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1769/4...7ee6aa3f_h.jpg Anyway, this tower is rising again. https://www.instagram.com/p/Bkc_7q1B...halladventures Quote:
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OMG, that ghosted skyline sketch of CPSo. buildings . .
which included a profile of CPT, with the shagadelic spire . . (posted Jun 18 by NYguy) . . what an immensely powerful silhouette . . that image painfully shows the world-class icon we could've had . . . (It's in the sketch with a rectangular golden-highline . . a 15 story walkway across lower Central Park, that then wraps behind towers outlining the Park's bottom . . I could give a rip about that pipe-dream) I care about, the easily attainable excellence that should happen with NYC's new tallest . . In that illustration, CPT . . as a simple boring, soaring vertical box . . transforms itself, the skyline, and its city, through its rising asymmetrical corner spire . . which is merely a simple, offbeat, nicely proportioned configuration . . as far as spires go . . . But, at this height, in this city, at this time, . . that simple deco-ish configuration becomes electrifying !!! . . CPT would be so much more than just the sum these parts . . the big dumb building + the "pretty-ok" spire, together, magically become a real 21st Century symbol . . thrilling urban drama . . the satisfying, resonant high note, exactly where everybody anticipates it should be . . This amazing landmark, would not just be about a petty fight over tall numbers . . but about a spine-tingling American Majesty, mightily expressed . . Such an opportunity to lose . . Where's the greatness ? . . a spire-less CPT, as architecture, is boring, visually unfinished, & pathetic . . Believe me, if the world doesn't see that preeminent iconic silhouette here in NYC, we'll see it built elsewhere . . its too good to waste . . Dubai gets Adrian Smith's world's tallest, art-deco masterpiece - Burj Khalifa NYC gets Adrian Smith's boring, wimpy glass-box, for the Chinese - CPT . . CPT would be grander & more American, if Gary Barnett focused more of his consideration on the city & country in which he is building, and its citizens . . as much as he's considering his foreign buyers . . building tallest in Our Great Big Town, comes with a proud responsibility . . |
Seeing that pic I just realized the residents of this building will have a direct view of the New Years ball drop!
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NY should forget spires, and focus on great rooflines like these Chinese towers. Spires are very last century. Keep up with the times. CPT should have had a more interesting shape, period!! |
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Not sure what spires have to do with anything, though. Spires are actually more common in the newer developing world skylines than in the established first world. And the discussion of building envelope is silly and reveals ignorance of NYC building code, which is based on the grid and streetwalls, in contrast to the developing world skylines where the tower is distinct from the urban context. This is why Pudong feels more like a vertical suburb than a Chinese Manhattan. |
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