I'm liking the Central Park view more than the backside.

Very nice, I like it. Slender is the new sexy, so it seems.
And man look at that last render with One57 owning everyone. :slob:

I'm just dead. Just dead. :banana:

This reminds me of an overgrown adaptation of the Austrian Cultural Forum.

Stunning!! Would be nice if it were twice as tall of course... :D

I'm not sold on the black walls surrounding the facade though overall beautiful design, the Saya and 785 8th Ave come to mind. judging by the comparison to the Solow Building it looks to be in the 800 ft range.

Let's hope they opt for better quality glass panels than they used for the Saya/One Madison Park. The mismatched black glass panels and crappy spandrel glass on the clear glass spans of the Saya almost ruin the tower, but it's saved by it's relatively simple massing. This tower won't have that saving grace as it's massing is all over the place, and the different colored windows on the east face could end up looking very cheap if the same quality of glass is used here.

So almost purely on quality of materials, this could be a stunning tower or an eyesore. I'm hoping Barnett opts for quality.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/busines...RPnl3lIAT6gVSM

Chess game on W. 57th St.

By STEVE CUOZZO
October 16, 2012

I wonder when this one will actually get going on this one? It seems like all the permits are in place, must just be a matter of financing.

Do we know who the architect behind this tower is?

A list of all the 57th Street projects...

http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2012/1...n_progress.php

I like the design, but it would be better with another 200 feet on it.

^^^
True this compliments One 57 and is a good addition.

An extra 200 ft would probably be a stretch for this design, in both meanings of the word...


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It's fine the way it is in my opinion. Not every new building needs to be a supertall. I'm just hoping they get the materials right.

http://archpaper.com/news/articles.asp?id=6346

Tapering Heights
Another tall, skinny residential tower to pierce the sky in Midtown Manhattan.


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Aaron Seward
11.12.2012


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FINALLY! A New York highrise with some LED lighting incorporated into the design! :notacrook:

Love the design. Not only is it tall, it'll look tall too.

/the old building at the corner would have a pretty big presence on my town's skyline.
//and that's in a city with over a hundred subway stations.
///4-story penthouse? another $100M penthouse?

Any speculation when this tower will get started? I think this building will make quite a mark on the Central Park South skyline.

Yeah, the "billionaire's row" becoming more exclusive...:D

Eventually, 57th Street will be paved with Gold.

Richest zip code in a few years time.

when are they thinking of construction for this one. really looking forward to it.

How about widening the sidewalks and planting small trees in rows, making it look like a real exclusive high-end street? Perhaps they could tax the residents to pay for it, I"m sure they could pony up for it :)

hahahaha i love that idea:tup:

I actually think this is a great idea. Perhaps they could pedestrianize Broadway all the way to Columbus Circle to pay for it? They could sell the 'air rights' from the portions of Broadway that are made into how it is down around Times Square, and major streets--especially 57th--could be given much more fitting pedestrian amenities. I can't imagine re-designing the street between Columbus &... 3rd Avenue would be too expensive.

As Midtown continues to get denser, especially with the re-zoning imminent, the focus is going to have to really shift totally away from vehicles. Sidewalks in much of Midtown are crammed as-is, and it's time to start planning while we can. If we can't tax the B&T auto commuters, then we might as well make it as difficult as possible for non-taxi/bus/freight services to use Midtown.

I think this will be another classic.

Agreed. The wait for construction to start is painstaking!!

I don't really care for that. There can and probably will be pedestrian improvements, but the closing of Broadway hasn't been one of my favorite things, its so un-New York. I'm not an advocate of driving into Manhattan, but one of the things about city life is the streets are filled with people, and yes automobiles. It's part of the urban fabric, the mix that gives the city its flavor and atmosphere. 57th Street, at least on the west side, was once a very touristy destination, but is now becoming a new "Park Avenue" in its own right with these new developments.

I'm not fully understanding what all of those notches or panels are on the dark portions of the facade facing the avenues (I'm not talking about the balconies facing Central Park). To me it looks like color variations similar to those on One57's sides. Someone mentioned something about LED lights. I don't know.

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It would also cause severe traffic problems. It's one thing to pedestrianize part of Times Square, but to go much further would be shoving it down people's throats. I know urban planners (particularly the more academic kind) love bicycles, foot traffic, and public transportation, but there will always be a sizable portion of the public who want to live in the suburbs and drive in to the city, traffic be damned. Personally, I love driving all around the city so long as it's nights or weekends.

Most european cities have pedestrianized their cores and it is pleasant to enjoy them. I think the average person would enjoy it in NY if they had more car-free areas and I doubt most people would consider it "shoving it down their throats" once they have experienced it. Face it, people are resistant to change and they fear it.. however, they often don't know what they are missing. Having a few more pedestrian zones is not going to prevent the car people from accessing the city or destroy the big NY city feel, come on now! Large European and some Asian cities are very bustling and they strike a good balance between car and pedestrian. NY is need to be a bit more progressive and open to new ideas IMO. I suppose the die hard natives might resist change, but without change, NY will be eclipsed by more innovative cities in the future..




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Closing off that much of Broadway would be a traffic nightmare, period. And this isn't Europe, you can't always drag people toward whatever is deemed at the moment to be "progressive". I think you are mistaken if you think suburbanites who work or party in Manhattan won't be seriously turned-off by this idea. I love every moment of being in my car, and I generally dislike public transportation.

This is insanely off-topic, so please PM me to respond.

While I agree that Manhattan avenues shouldn't (and won't ever) be converted to pedestrian-only, your anecdote isn't really relevant to anything.

Someone's personal preferences shouldn't trump the public good, and there are few things more anti-public good than allowing private automobiles to come into Manhattan without paying huge fees.

Really no one needs to drive into Manhattan, and those that do need to pay a hell of a lot more than they currently do. Eventually we'll have congestion pricing and/or tolls on all entryways. There's no other way we're going to be able to function.

I think pedestrianizing streets in Midtown is largely misguided. While Times Square has been successful, others have been less successful. That said, I'm all for pedestrianizing streets in other parts of the city. IMO, places in the Village, SoHo and other places would be amazing as pedestrian only thoroughfares. Mulberry Street, St. Marks Place, even Bleecker or Prince Streets could be nice.

Anyway, this has gotten way off subject.

I'm not the only one. A great deal of people come from the suburbs (sometimes even as far a way as Lehigh Valley or New Haven for work every day, or to go to a game, etc). A lot of these people don't particularly want rail access to the city, however misguided you may think that is. Cutting down on the street traffic has its benefits, but I believe the economic benefits from auto commuters will drop if too many streets close.

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A much better idea. St.Marks used to be pedestrian at times, but then again, St.Marks isn't really St.Marks anymore.

I'm curious to see night renderings of this building.

Yay! More fees! The answer to everything -- higher taxes, and more fees! God knows we don't have enough of that in New York.

And I agree..no way will New York ever to be able to function without higher taxes, more fees! Gosh, I can't wait to finally experience New York when it is a functioning city! God knows New York doesn't function. What a mess of a city. New York will never be a world city until we finally find a way for it to function! Maybe when we can finally get New York to function it will become desirable enough to get people to drop $30mm, $50mm and $100mm on apartments! And we can finally get some tourists to this functioning city! And maybe we can create a world renowned financial system! We'll name it Wall Street!

/sarc.

Just widen the sidewalks, landscape heavily and stfu. I'm so sick of (generally unattractive) pedestrian plazas and shoving more people onto the unbearably crowded and rat infested subway system being the answer to every 'progressive's' wet dream. Or better yet -- take the silly pedestrian plazas to the East Village and Williamsburg and leave money-making Midtown Manhattan alone. It is the richest and most important place on the planet and the last thing it needs is more ridiculous street blockages disturbing commerce and their limos.

I love this tower but think it would look a lot nicer if it had a pointed top

New York is "The world city"!! Compared to the other world cities like London and Paris we pay even less taxes and they both seem to be doing pretty good so let's not go too far here. Fact is we do need congestion pricing because of how our city is evolving, we can't just have that many cars in such a congested city so bring on more pedestrian plazas to make it more livable.

What an foolish and pathetic diatribe, wow. :uhh: Go be angry and aggressive elsewhere please, this is not a place to tell people to 'STFU' just because you disagree with their ideas. You sound like one of those rich conservatives who has absolutely no idea about cities or the people that inhabit them, but instead care only about those 'limo riding' elites.. what a pathetic selfish attitude. The only thing I know and what makes me laugh with glee, is that I can predict that you are going to be annoyed for years to come as the city becomes even more 'progressive' and implements more and more progressive schemes, and I doubt there is anything people like you can do to stop it. Instead you can get angrier and angrier while the rest of us enjoy a better more livable city. Why don't you move to Houston, you'll be happy there with nobody on the street, no subway and endless highway widening, and NO riff-raff using their silly 'progressive' pedestrian plazas or bike shares, lol.

Oh, and did you know that Tokyo, the city with the greatest GDP on the planet, closes some of its major commercial shopping streets on the weekends to traffic? Did you know that Hong Kong, the financial center of Asia closes many of its streets to shoppers at various times of the day? Did you know that Shanghai, the rising new 'NEW YORK' of Asia, has a huge major commercial street and plaza completely car free? It isn't just the amsterdams, the munichs and the Barcelonas that do this, it is also the cities that are the leading business centers in the world.

Your arguments that such improvements to cities interfere with commerce is completely without foundation and you have no evidence that this would occur in NYC given the same implementation there, you are instead acting out of fear of the unknown.

Tokyo is basically a city of a bunch of poors that keep its GDP sky high. Tokyo is a city of massive government investment (since it's a capital) and New York is a city of commerce. New York is much richer and more productive and they can not be compared in any way.

The idea that New York doesn't function because the entire island of Manhattan isn't a giant pedestrian plaza is ridiculous. New York needs smart growth and the answer to everything isn't shutting down streets for more ugly pedestrian plazas. Where will all these new commuters fit? No, we don't want to live like a bunch of animals like they do in Tokyo, squeezing themselves into the trains like a bunch of cattle in such an inhumane fashion.

http://www.worldofstock.com/slides/TRT2062.jpg

Go back to Tokyo and eat your Ramen in the middle of the cutsey pedestrian plazas and enjoy. It would be a travesty if New York in any way resembled Tokyo or any Asian city. New York is New York and let's keep it that way.

OKAY!!

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THAT IS ENOUGH!

No more commentary that isn't about this building.

Continue your debates in private, thank you.

Article on the towers of the new "gold coast"...
http://observer.com/2013/01/57th-hea...belt/?show=all

I am sorry if that already was asked but do anyone know when the construction should start?

It's supposed to be completed in 2014, so likely soon.


http://observer.com/2013/01/57th-hea...belt/?show=all

http://therealdeal.com/issues_articl...n-57th-street/

Battling skyscrapers on 57th Street
In the wake of One57, developers are working on a slew of residential projects in Manhattan’s newest hotbed of development


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February 01, 2013
By Yasmeen Qureshi



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Hopefully we get some more renderings soon, but nice to see another one get going.

Great although I'll believe it when I see it. I feel like they've been about to start this tower for about a year now. If / when it is built, it may become one of the most remarkable sliver towers in the city.

my fav project in NY

completed in 2014?? it hardly seems possible, 55 floors of luxe apartments even with almost no excavation and such small floorplates. let's say in begins in may, that'd be groundbreaking to delivery in ~18 months! awesome aggressive schedule!

IMO new renderings are *long* overdue.

This latest one we've been seeing for months now looks like a pastel drawing from a vantage point that doesn't accentuate it's finer details (i.e. cladding, balcony structure, *real* sense of the building's width...or lack thereof).

I'd especially like to see how this interacts with the CPK/57th St. stretch of the skyline (i.e. a "future skyline" rendering if feasible) and towards Tower Verre.

All permits have been approved, and it work was supposed to begin this quarter. Maybe someone should stop by and check it out.



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