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zahav Jun 12, 2018 8:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster (Post 8217401)
I'm not sure what to expect next summer, but those are all narrow body short haul destinations without lie flat J or full on first like their 789s. If anything that list makes me more doubtful it returns.

Yes that list makes it look bad, but I think London is fairly solid as a destination. But it all comes down to fleet utilization and if that aircraft can be better allocated elsewhere, they'll do it

Canadian74 Jun 13, 2018 9:29 PM

YUL, YYZ at the bottom

http://www.speedtest.net/insights/bl...s-canada-2018/

SFUVancouver Jun 13, 2018 11:20 PM

Those WiFi numbers for YYZ and YUL are painful. Surely Bell or Rogers or Telus (or a RoBelUs consortium) could be brought on board to make a major improvement.

thenoflyzone Jun 14, 2018 12:53 AM

Well, free wifi is better than no wifi, however slow it may be.

cyeg66 Jun 14, 2018 6:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Canadian74 (Post 8220106)

Those are laughably low. Yikes.

SkahHigh Jun 14, 2018 2:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Canadian74 (Post 8220106)

Weird because I never had trouble with YUL's wifi and I use it twice a year for about an hour and a half each time.

YYZ's however, is pretty sucky.

Cage Jun 14, 2018 9:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Canadian74 (Post 8220106)

YYC numbers probably coming from the new international terminal, i find slower speeds in the older domestic terminal. Likewise, I can tell the author flies Delta out of SEA where she is based. I was just in SEA and the wifi speeds were great near the DL A and B gates, South Satelite and central hall areas had disastrous wifi.

YYZ wifi speeds are great in the Amex lounge and Maple Leaf Lounge. I Don't know about the general terminal areas as I use cellular network for critical airline app stuff (getting seat upgrades, flight changes, and boarding passes).

Agree with the author about DEN, great wifi setup. Funny story, I hadn't been through DEN for 2 years. One landing and pulling up to the gate, the iPad connected to DEN wifi and started downloading emails before I was off the airplane. The iPad even dinged a notification update to announce flight arrival before I got off the airplane.

thenoflyzone Jun 14, 2018 9:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cage (Post 8221447)
Funny story, I hadn't been through DEN for 2 years. One landing and pulling up to the gate, the iPad connected to DEN wifi and started downloading emails before I was off the airplane. The iPad even dinged a notification update to announce flight arrival before I got off the airplane.

Of course DEN has good wifi. It's the Illuminati's headquarters ! Those guys need fast and reliable browsing...;)

JHikka Jun 14, 2018 9:55 PM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8221456)
Of course DEN has good wifi. It's the Illuminati's headquarters ! Those guys need fast and reliable browsing...;)

I was going to say: The shape and direction of the runways enables the wi-fi to work at higher levels and distances. ;) :P

SpongeG Jun 15, 2018 1:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Cage (Post 8221447)
YYC numbers probably coming from the new international terminal, i find slower speeds in the older domestic terminal. Likewise, I can tell the author flies Delta out of SEA where she is based. I was just in SEA and the wifi speeds were great near the DL A and B gates, South Satelite and central hall areas had disastrous wifi.

YYZ wifi speeds are great in the Amex lounge and Maple Leaf Lounge. I Don't know about the general terminal areas as I use cellular network for critical airline app stuff (getting seat upgrades, flight changes, and boarding passes).

Agree with the author about DEN, great wifi setup. Funny story, I hadn't been through DEN for 2 years. One landing and pulling up to the gate, the iPad connected to DEN wifi and started downloading emails before I was off the airplane. The iPad even dinged a notification update to announce flight arrival before I got off the airplane.

Don't you have to pay for the wifi at SEA? The few airports I have travelled through in the states the wifi was always a charge, there was nothing free. So they better offer better than the free stuff.

craneSpotter Jun 15, 2018 6:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SpongeG (Post 8221700)
Don't you have to pay for the wifi at SEA? The few airports I have travelled through in the states the wifi was always a charge, there was nothing free. So they better offer better than the free stuff.

No, it's 'free' - https://www.portseattle.org/services...tac-free-wi-fi

OF the US Airports I've been to recently - free wifi @ SNA; LAS; SEA; SFO; PSP (headed to LAX soon - its says it has free wifi)

KOA did not have free wifi.

(edit: hmmm I spend a lot of time in California ... never really thought about it).

DrJoe Jun 15, 2018 10:07 AM

Airplane?

zahav Jun 15, 2018 6:37 PM

Delta Airlines is dropping its SEA-HKG route as of Oct. 2nd, currently served by Boeing 777-200ER on daily basis. That's a fairly significant cut, the route was one of the big international routes initiated as part of Delta's "rehubbing" of Seatac. I assume this cut is due to performance and not aircraft availability, since Delta is pretty stacked in that department, and have tons of different aircraft, gateways and routes they can play around with. Interesting to see if they leave it at that, or if any other routes aren't performing and get shuffled. And further, whether another carrier will step in (Cathay, Hong Kong Airlines) and operate the route.

I'm only posting this on the Canada section since Seatac had been really angling for a piece of the Asia Pacific pie, obviously in direct competition with YVR. The fact they are going from daily 777 to cancelled is a bit surprising

thenoflyzone Jun 15, 2018 7:48 PM

DL cut HKG but will start MSP-ICN instead. JV with KE in full swing. This is CX's chance at SEA.

Still crazy to see DL exit HKG entirely.

PBruge Jun 15, 2018 8:25 PM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8220323)
Well, free wifi is better than no wifi, however slow it may be.

The airport experience is miserable enough, no need to make it worse.

Those speeds are unacceptable. Should be easy enough to correct.

casper Jun 16, 2018 2:50 AM

Looks like Swoop is applying to fly into the US. This will be interesting.....

https://airlineinfo.com/ostpdf102/101.pdf

SteelTown Jun 16, 2018 3:18 AM

^ From the pdf

Proposed Services
Swoop’s initial transborder operations will begin in October of this year and will include services between points in Canada and Las Vegas, Orlando, Tampa, Fort Lauderdale, and Phoenix.

History of Operations
Swoop received its Air Operator Certificate from Transport Canada on June 12, 2018, and intends to launch domestic Canadian service on June 20, 2018. Swoop intends to begin transborder service between Canada and the United States on or about October 11 2018.

wave46 Jun 16, 2018 1:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SteelTown (Post 8222902)
^ From the pdf

Proposed Services
Swoop’s initial transborder operations will begin in October of this year and will include services between points in Canada and Las Vegas, Orlando, Tampa, Fort Lauderdale, and Phoenix.

History of Operations
Swoop received its Air Operator Certificate from Transport Canada on June 12, 2018, and intends to launch domestic Canadian service on June 20, 2018. Swoop intends to begin transborder service between Canada and the United States on or about October 11 2018.

I hope my flight to Phoenix in November doesn't get "Swooped". I think I'll be ok as I'm flying out of Pearson and Swoop isn't scheduled there yet.

I remember a lot of Air Canada customers being annoyed when their mainline AC flight was magically transformed into a Rouge flight when the brand was launched. Hopefully Westjet doesn't do the same.

plrh Jun 16, 2018 1:32 PM

Does anyone know if my westjet dollars and benefits will be usable for swoop? I have this suspicion that ywg will lose a lot of westjet flights and gain a lot of swoop flights.

wave46 Jun 16, 2018 1:42 PM

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Originally Posted by plrh (Post 8223101)
Does anyone know if my westjet dollars and benefits will be usable for swoop? I have this suspicion that ywg will lose a lot of westjet flights and gain a lot of swoop flights.

I suspect not, as Swoop will be completely separate from Westjet, unlike Air Canada and Rouge. Different websites, no connections, etc.

I suspect many cities with highly seasonal services will be 'Swooped' - flights to the Caribbean, the sun belt and domestic travel in the summer peak to secondary destinations.


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