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Not really, more like recommendations. However, the article Community Board calls for redesign of One Vanderbilt that chris08876 posted above strikes cautious note at the end Quote:
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http://vanishingnewyork.blogspot.com...man-books.html Posman Books VANISHING Jeremiah Moss December 23, 2014 Quote:
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O the humanity!
The skyscrapers are coming! http://www.onlinedating.org/wp-conte..._screaming.gif This comment is interesting: Quote:
In this scenario, the zombies are the drunken students that pillage and rape every single night. :koko: This must be an American problem. Only in this country would you have people who are against making cities better. They chose to live in the past, and preserve their own views, and keep the city as a museum; lost in time when it should be moving forward. |
Reading one of those comments makes you stupid. I could literally feel losing some brain cells ... :frog:
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Didn't you know, sheeple? Banksters are building luxury office towers from which they will laugh at all the New Yorkers, subjected not to development or tourism or foreign students for as long as New York has been an international city. The illumaniti are coming; welcome your new lizard gods as they build tall towers in midtown Manhattan. The rapture is upon us.
#eattherich #nodevelopment #skyscrapeswillkillusall #GailBrewer #99vs1percent #luxuryofficetowers #foreignmoney #freemasons #911wasaninsdejob |
Its the obligatory last ditch attempt petition to save the one small store that could derail the billion dollar project, with little hope of actually making an impact on the situation.
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Why can't the bookstore move? First floor retail is still a thing. There's no retail vacancy in midtown? Anywhere?
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Wow those are pretty bad. It's almost as if a few nimby Austinites went to New York. That tourism comment is almost exactly like what someone said here about the big festivals. And the anti-skyscraper sentiment. The idea of nimbys in New York is a little insane. I mean, I'm sure New York has them. Some of those comments make it seem New York is some small town somewhere. Is New York not big enough for them to offer other options once those businesses move/close?
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^ Yeah, whey they didn't even try for a new location is questionable. Look at what happened with all the noise at the Rizzoli Bookstore on 57th. They are moving to a beautiful new location. If they are concerned with just being a commuter bookstore, Penn Station will be leasing, even the Port Authority bus terminal is leasing space now. The employees are painting the picture that they are being forced to close, and that's not entirely accurate.
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Somehow, the impression that every new skyscraper is a "luxury" tower has taken over the discussion of new buildings on the skyline. I've noticed this when you read articles on the changing skyline. However, they neglect all of the new office development - 30 Hudson, Manhatan West, new Hudson Yards towers, all of which will alter the skyline. Even the WTC contributes to this. Meanwhile, the people who should know better than anybody, the community boards, seem to be out of step with reality as well. They are somehow concerned that there will be a canyon effect created by the new towers in midtown east. You have to wonder if they've ever been outside. There is one thing though, that I can understand their concern about. And that is the location of the transit hall. There is a massive pedestrian wave that flows through Manhattan through rush hours towards the transit centers (Penn Station, Grand Central, Port Authority, PATH terminals, etc). The CB is concerned that the new "extension" is on Vanderbilt facing Grand Central itself, and not on the western side. Understanding that "flow", you can see how it could be an issue. The problem is, with the design as it is - the tower "opens up" towards Grand Central, making the large open spaces possible on that side of the tower. All that would be needed to remedy the situation though is access or a walkway connecting the extension to Madison Avenue for a direct connection from the west or north. http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/157872647/large.jpg http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/157894302/original.jpg The only way I can see that happening though is if it were built beneath the lobby. I think the TD Bank branch will be on the northwestern side of Madison. Direct connections to both the current and new terminals... http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/157900870/original.jpg Though only advisory, here's a look at the two resolutions from the community board... http://www.cb5.org/cb5/resolutions/d...permits_sought Quote:
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It's the same here. So don't worry, it's not just New York. Of course the new apartment projects here are marketing themselves in a luxurious manner, but now everyone seems to think every apartment project is actually condos - they aren't. And the whining about losing some insignificant building to new apartments is here also. I saw a post on Facebook the other day where they were sad that an automotive garage was being torn down for new apartments. Some of them were sure that "they were forced out." Of course that wasn't the case, and someone mentioned that the owner had retired a few years ago, and the two sons chose to go into other industries. Ironically one of them chose to be a Realtor.
Anyway, of course new properties are going to market themselves in way that makes them seem luxurious - even if they aren't. No one is going to say the new property they're planning is second rate. And this isn't unique to the real estate industry either. The car industry is another example of a change in marketing strategy. Anyway, I actually like this tower. I know some are poo pooing the top, but at least it's not flat. I actually think the building has a chance to become an icon. |
People will complain about everything.
Although I doubt it, I hope none of the complaints affect this project in anyway. The building is great how it is and so is the location. When would construction on this begin by the way? |
^ Demolition begins next year.
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It will be the symbol of the new midtown east, and if done right will be an overall landmark. There's so much new competition now for the towers that will stand outright as symbols of the city, but I think with the observation deck here, and the connection to Grand Central, this will be one in the collective consciousness of the city. It helps that it will be away a bit from the other planned supertalls. The closest thing to that will be the planned 520 5th Avenue, a 900 footer that will pop up in the view below. If that building gave us a spire or pointy top, it will be a sweet view indeed. http://www.6sqft.com/wp-content/uplo...venue-_KPF.jpg |
With the community board nonsense out of the way, we are nearing the homestretch...
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People are complaining about the Chrysler losing prominence, but that ship has sailed, just as it has with the Woolworth. That doesn't diminish the quality of either building though.
How a 900 footer at 520 5th could impact that view... http://m5.i.pbase.com/o9/06/102706/1...JfeK61.r1b.JPG |
IMO it'd be a piece of cake to make a stunning, yet respectful partner for 500 5th.
Besides, something in the immediate area at least 900' to the roof at least will diminish the somewhat behemoth-like dimensions of 1V from that perspective. |
I actually like that view of 1 Vanderbilt, and almost don't want to see a 900 footer built there so soon. 900 feet is nowhere near 1,500 feet, yet to some they may look a similar height from an observation deck.
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Nothing new, but part of the discussion (with some pedestrian simulation)...
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enjoy your dominance while it lasts, Chrysler.
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