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stevanford1 Sep 24, 2019 3:21 PM

McMansion Neighborhoods In Your City
 
Post Streetview or Images about McMansion Neighborhoods in your area and perhaps discuss the McMansion in general. In Toronto we have the McMansion ridden suburb of Vaughan:
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.8701...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.8698...7i13312!8i6656

Definitely not ridiculous at all!

Crawford Sep 24, 2019 4:23 PM

Dear God, that last one takes the cake.

I have never seen such horrible, gaudy examples in the U.S. Most McMansion neighborhoods are stupefyingly bland, not Liberace-esque.

Who buys these homes? Chinese? Italians? Certainly not Toronto WASPs.

JManc Sep 24, 2019 4:27 PM

Russian mob...

stevanford1 Sep 24, 2019 5:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crawford (Post 8696696)
Dear God, that last one takes the cake.

I have never seen such horrible, gaudy examples in the U.S. Most McMansion neighborhoods are stupefyingly bland, not Liberace-esque.

Who buys these homes? Chinese? Italians? Certainly not Toronto WASPs.

Right you are! Vaughan has a pretty large Italian population.

stevanford1 Sep 24, 2019 5:11 PM

Staten Island:
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/vAMc...1875/3.0.0.jpg

https://p.rdcpix.com/v02/lc59d2544-m...0_h770_q80.jpg

pj3000 Sep 24, 2019 5:16 PM

Bell Acres near Pittsburgh

"Villa Noci" - this understated beauty is the largest house in Pennsylvania. The 5000 sqft McMansions in the neighborhood look like outhouses in comparison.

Its owner Joe Nocito was indicted by the IRS for both business and personal tax evasion and claiming the mansion's costs (including imported marble from the old country, of course), a fleet of luxury vehicles, and his personal butler as business expenses. :haha:

https://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=qr...43&form=LMLTCC

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-yxlx6t7QO4.../bellacres.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/485/18...25b60b4e_b.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/c9/1e/c4/c...ac5caec9ec.jpg

stevanford1 Sep 24, 2019 6:08 PM

This thread would not be complete without Southlake TX
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.9885...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.9904...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.9878...7i16384!8i8192


https://www.google.com/maps/@32.9904...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.9568...7i16384!8i8192

Extreme Fugliness :yuck:

Crawford Sep 24, 2019 6:12 PM

Typical McMansion neighborhood in U.S. would be something like Novi, MI. Unrelentingly bland, not really over-the-top:

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4698...7i16384!8i8192

The above neighborhood is probably at least half Chinese/Indian, BTW.

Italian-American (and Russian and Greek) neighborhoods tend to have gaudy design, but I've never seen anything like those Vaughan examples. But certainly Staten Island, Dyker Heights, Brooklyn, Whitestone and Howard Beach, Queens, and parts of Central Jersey, will have some tacky individual homes. But not really a McMansion environment like Vaughn.

Here's the Greek section of Bay Ridge, Brooklyn:

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6252...7i16384!8i8192

Crawford Sep 24, 2019 6:19 PM

I like the Southlake examples, with a hideous, cheap-looking McMansion and then a third-world style drainage ditch in the front yard. Total class. Wanna-be Greenwich, CT meets rural Bolivia.

photoLith Sep 24, 2019 6:35 PM

I grew up in a soulless McMansion in soulless Kingwood, TX a northern suburb of Houston. I always hated our house and the McMansions around it. My parents loved living in the furthest flung McMansion burbs of every city we lived in. The architecture of McMansions is just truly awful. A mishmash of every style thrown together with no thought or reasoning behind it. Not all of Kingwood is McMansions, but the newer eastern part down Kingwood Drive is all McMansions.

This is the house I mostly grew up in.

https://www.google.com/maps/@30.0597...7i13312!8i6656

Steely Dan Sep 24, 2019 6:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crawford (Post 8696844)
I like the Southlake examples, with a hideous, cheap-looking McMansion and then a third-world style drainage ditch in the front yard. Total class. Wanna-be Greenwich, CT meets rural Bolivia.

yeah, but the savvy developer can market those drainage ditches as "moats", to keep the hordes out. ;)

Jonboy1983 Sep 24, 2019 7:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pj3000 (Post 8696764)
Bell Acres near Pittsburgh

"Villa Noci" - this understated beauty is the largest house in Pennsylvania. The 5000 sqft McMansions in the neighborhood look like outhouses in comparison.

Its owner Joe Nocito was indicted by the IRS for both business and personal tax evasion and claiming the mansion's costs (including imported marble from the old country, of course), a fleet of luxury vehicles, and his personal butler as business expenses. :haha:

https://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=qr...43&form=LMLTCC

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-yxlx6t7QO4.../bellacres.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/485/18...25b60b4e_b.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/c9/1e/c4/c...ac5caec9ec.jpg

Man, in that top image one would expect to see the Pacific Ocean to be within view from that veranda.

Other McMansions in the neighborhood look like outhouses? I think this house makes the White House look like a fricking shoe box!

stevanford1 Sep 24, 2019 10:41 PM

Edmonton's McMansions are like a car crash, awful and terrifying but you can't look away!

My Big Fat Greek McMansion

Puke Green

That short ones probably the worst, McSnouthome

AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHH

Columned Catastrophy

GlassCity Sep 25, 2019 3:02 AM

^ Those are too small to count as McMansions I think; they're just typical ugly suburbia.

Here are my contributions from the Vancouver area, although I can't think of many. Even our rich people housing tends to be on relatively small and dense lots. Likewise for Winnipeg, where I can't think of any examples at all.

South Surrey sprawl:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@49.05766...7i13312!8i6656

Nestled along the US border:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@49.00520...7i13312!8i6656

photoLith Sep 25, 2019 5:04 AM

I always wonder what will happen with these awful houses in 30-70 years. I highly doubt there will ever be a preservationist movement for this junk. Most of these houses will fall apart as they were mostly built on the cheap and never hold their value. I'd love to see most awful 80s-now suburbia tract housing McMansion crap turn into slums in the future.

stevanford1 Sep 25, 2019 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlassCity (Post 8697373)
^ Those are too small to count as McMansions I think; they're just typical ugly suburbia.

Here are my contributions from the Vancouver area, although I can't think of many. Even our rich people housing tends to be on relatively small and dense lots. Likewise for Winnipeg, where I can't think of any examples at all.

South Surrey sprawl:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@49.05766...7i13312!8i6656

Nestled along the US border:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@49.00520...7i13312!8i6656

I mean this kind of Edmonton McMansion crap actually made it to McMansion Hell.
https://i.imgur.com/2zfhLll.jpg

Crawford Sep 25, 2019 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by photoLith (Post 8697465)
I always wonder what will happen with these awful houses in 30-70 years. I highly doubt there will ever be a preservationist movement for this junk. Most of these houses will fall apart as they were mostly built on the cheap and never hold their value. I'd love to see most awful 80s-now suburbia tract housing McMansion crap turn into slums in the future.

If the schools remain good, the property values will remain high. School districts largely determine property values (in the U.S. suburban context).

And, it's anecdotal, but it seems that professional class immigrants, especially Asians and Middle Easterners, love McMansion sprawl, while "traditional" upper class whites (WASPs, secular Jews, affluent Catholics) don't. The former group is growing faster than the latter, so there will still probably be a market for such homes.

new.slang Oct 5, 2019 4:34 AM

In general I prefer to tend American McMansions over Canadian ones. In Toronto and environs most new large houses tend to look like a cross between the Taj Mahal and Versailles. I'd take an oversized "Hamptons" style home any day.

stevanford1 Oct 14, 2019 2:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by new.slang (Post 8707858)
In general I prefer to tend American McMansions over Canadian ones. In Toronto and environs most new large houses tend to look like a cross between the Taj Mahal and Versailles. I'd take an oversized "Hamptons" style home any day.

Yeah, our houses are weird for sure (see Vaughan, Edmonton, and Missingsausage), but America can be pretty bad as well (see Southlake TX)


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