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Duff Jun 6, 2015 3:54 PM

[Halifax] The Crane on South Park | 37 m | 11 fl | Completed
 
New 11 storey proposal from Geoff Keddy Architect and Associates for 1469-1473 South Park St and 1474 Brenton. Link to the proposal here - http://www.halifax.ca/boardscom/drc/...entonPlans.pdf

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/516/18...0e058f60_o.png

Here is a picture Brett Ruskin shared on Facebook.

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Keith P. Jun 6, 2015 4:03 PM

It apparently is going without exterior walls to save money and make it more affordable.

hokus83 Jun 6, 2015 4:41 PM

Was really hopping whatever went in this spot would wrap around to the vacant spot on spring garden around the corner that burnt down.

someone123 Jun 6, 2015 5:42 PM

I like the narrow footprint.

Drybrain Jun 6, 2015 6:05 PM

I like the narrow footprint too. Proves in the local context that developers needn't assemble huge parcels of land and knock a whole bunch of stuff down just to create one new building.

(I also like the design a lot, though a non-transparent rendering would be nice.)

JET Jun 6, 2015 7:24 PM

So we lose another heritage house? That will leave one lone heritage house on both sides of those two blocks of South Park Street. Pretty sad. :(
1474 Brenton is also a nice old building, with some nice features.

hokus83 Jun 6, 2015 8:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JET (Post 7053054)
So we lose another heritage house? That will leave one lone heritage house on both sides of those two blocks of South Park Street. Pretty sad. :(
1474 Brenton is also a nice old building, with some nice features.

I've been inside them both they are nothing special, I wouldn't say anything is heritage about them

Empire Jun 6, 2015 8:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JET (Post 7053054)
So we lose another heritage house? That will leave one lone heritage house on both sides of those two blocks of South Park Street. Pretty sad. :(
1474 Brenton is also a nice old building, with some nice features.

Agreed. We have little respect for good architecture in this town. We need to build around our built heritage not over it. We can't even paint a crosswalk so how can we save heritage? For all of the fanfare about the Trillium it's just a very ordinary building that replaced great architecture.

hokus83 Jun 6, 2015 8:16 PM

you guys are kidding right, I love old home in Halifax but these ones are poop. When was the last time you even saw them?

Drybrain Jun 6, 2015 8:26 PM

I don't think they're "poop"; in fact, I think it'd be too bad to lose them. But given the area and the quality of the potential replacement, I think it's an okay trade-off. To give a sense of where I draw the line, even though this looks like a really nice project, I'd oppose this if it were replacing the BMO building down the street (still anxiously awaiting those plans.)

JET Jun 6, 2015 9:10 PM

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Originally Posted by hokus83 (Post 7053096)
you guys are kidding right, I love old home in Halifax but these ones are poop. When was the last time you even saw them?

I have witnessed the steady decline of the looks of the South Park buildings, it is sadly what happens with a lot of student housing, most of that is a cosmetic fix. The bones are probably fine. There is nothing wrong with how the Brenton Street property looks, it has been maintained, and has some nice details.

counterfactual Jun 6, 2015 9:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith P. (Post 7052893)
It apparently is going without exterior walls to save money and make it more affordable.

:haha::haha::haha:

counterfactual Jun 6, 2015 9:37 PM

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Originally Posted by hokus83 (Post 7052922)
Was really hopping whatever went in this spot would wrap around to the vacant spot on spring garden around the corner that burnt down.

Good thought. Was hoping so too. I assume that eventually somebody will put something in there..

counterfactual Jun 6, 2015 9:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Drybrain (Post 7053102)
I don't think they're "poop"; in fact, I think it'd be too bad to lose them. But given the area and the quality of the potential replacement, I think it's an okay trade-off. To give a sense of where I draw the line, even though this looks like a really nice project, I'd oppose this if it were replacing the BMO building down the street (still anxiously awaiting those plans.)

This is my thinking too. I don't like heritage houses/buildings unnecessarily turfed. But this is a very nice looking development in a perfect location to further increase the intense density of this area. I like it.

hokus83 Jun 6, 2015 10:30 PM

So no underground parking for this one? odd

musicman Jun 7, 2015 3:22 AM

On the drawings there are 2 levels of underground parking.....

counterfactual Jun 7, 2015 10:08 AM

Having underground parking in this development is great; more parking around SGR is a winner, so long as its publicly accessible.

fenwick16 Jun 7, 2015 1:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Duff (Post 7052888)
New 11 storey proposal from Geoff Keddy Architect and Associates for 1469-1473 South Park St and 1474 Brenton. Link to the proposal here - http://www.halifax.ca/boardscom/drc/...entonPlans.pdf

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/516/18...0e058f60_o.png
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This is an interesting proposal. There will be few windows on floors 1 - 5 by necessity. The large side walls will have to be blank to permit adjacent development and to meet the fire code (or so I believe, based on posts by Empire for other threads). The upper floors, 6-10, are set back and will have some side windows.

The lack of windows creates some interesting floor layouts and many of the apartments won't have windows in the bedrooms. Maybe they could have exterior cameras and TV screens, that would be interesting.

Dmajackson Jun 7, 2015 11:58 PM

This is definitely different then what Halifax is used to but I think it has the potential to be great. Spring Garden needs high-density mixed-use buildings so this hits that target. Locating the parking access to Brenton is a good call to avoid conflicts on South Park which is very busy with pedestrians, cyclists and vehicles. The height should help hide The Trillium and the office building's huge blank wall.

terrynorthend Jun 8, 2015 1:24 AM

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Originally Posted by fenwick16 (Post 7053511)
The lack of windows creates some interesting floor layouts and many of the apartments won't have windows in the bedrooms. Maybe they could have exterior cameras and TV screens, that would be interesting.

I'm confused by this. I thought a window (secondary egress) in a bedroom was a requirement by code?


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