I'll play along ;) .......

As I pointed out in an earlier thread, there's a lightning rod atop WTC that IIRC raises the overall height of 1WTC to 1,787.
How 'bout this? Raise Nordstrom's spire to 309' to the height that equals New York State's being admitted to the Union......

........1788.

Here's an idea, enough with all these symbolic heights already. WTC1 opened a pandoras box with its nonsensical reference to the birth of our nation and "freedom" , as if Sept. 11 had anything to do with independence from Great Britain nearly 250 years ago.

Aw shoot...There went my pithy attempt at harmless tongue-in-cheek...
Serves me right, dunnit?
;)

Exciting times are coming and who knows if a growth like that will ever be repeated on that scale again. Some of us, including myself complain about height, design, etc. We are getting spoiled !

We could not even dream about so many supertalls being build just a few years ago. For comparison, the HIGHEST completed building in NY in 2013 was Courtyard and Residence Inn Manhattan (1717 Broadway) with the height of 752 ft!

NYC skyline will be changed forever.


http://i.imgur.com/bQr5m1l.jpg
Credit: DannyR2713

^^

Also in Brooklyn as well. The change in the last 5 years has been incredible. A new tallest after another. Now, there is the possibility of a supertall for the borough. Also, even in Jersey City. Who would of ever thought that would have happened a decade ago? Great times. :cool:

It was not too long ago that we all thought the ESB would remain King, but the King is being dethroned. Its a power struggle, and new opponents seem to come out all the time to make their mark on the skyline. Next step, 600m. But for now, lets bask in the ambience.

Although I think keeping buildings below 1776 feet is dumb...... the 1776 ft represents our freedom. 9/11 was a time that our freedom was tested. I think it was a really nice touch with making it 1776 feet and it makes me feel proud to live in a country where people love being patriotic. That doesn't mean I want Nordstrom or any other building to stay below that height, or any other buildings to make symbolic height references.

Can you imagine, a 752 foot building would be the tallest building in most European cities. Savor it while you can folks, because such booms don't last forever.

What point? I know exactly what the 1776 is for but I'm still saying it's kind of dumb (Don't even get me started on "Freedom Tower"), or at least not building higher than that. They should have also built a building 1776 feet to the roof if they really wanted to make a statement.

But anyway enough of that I'm actually pretty satisfied with the status of 1WTC and NY skyscrapers in general, the future is pretty bright (if everything goes according to plan that is.)

1776 ft isnt dumb. What's dumb is not wanting to build any higher then 1776 ft.

I'm sure they will eventually, but I don't think this was the right time to do so because it would only have broken the height by slightly increasing the spire. IMO if you want to break a symbolic height like that you need to blow it away, not just break it by a few feet.

Well folks, I think this tower (and others) will solidify New York's skyline as the top skyline of the 2020s. But sorry to burst your bubbles gentlemen, something even grander is waiting in the wings. The Thirties can't get here fast enough. I believe someone is going to put down the marbles and start playing with the real chips. :)

I agree. The last couple of hundred feet is spires. Making a stick a few feet taller wouldn't be very impressive. If it was roof height... now *that* would be impressive.

The roof slab (93rd floor) is at 1,428' 10'', which is pretty much consistent with the 1,424' figure from the massing model.

http://www.ctbuh.org/News/GlobalTall...S/Default.aspx

New York City's Nordstrom Tower May Become World’s Tallest Residential Building
New York City, United States – 09 July 2014

Yes, still on the eastern side.



I doubt the tower would still carry the Nordstrom name, but we'll see...


http://q13fox.com/2014/07/11/when-bu...#axzz37BumfMvZ

When built, world’s tallest residential tower could carry Nordstrom name


https://tribkcpq.files.wordpress.com...trom-tower.jpg



Idiots. There won't be billionaires on every floor, or most floors for that matter.

http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs...3D%20Views.jpg

So far, it's an improvement. The massing looks less messy, but it is still busy. I think it would look better if the 3rd major setback that juts out and runs parallel to CP in the third view from the left was the same width as the tower portion. This would increase the floor area, create a larger terrace, and make the massing seem a little more harmonious and give it a more "classic New York" assemblage.

In the early massing renderings, the Nordstrom portion seemed to be fairly detailed. I wonder if they will keep that and if NT's facade will play off that. In a boxier building like this, what is going to matter the most is the quality of the facade materials and how well they transition with the setbacks.

I don't know....I somehow like the semi-haphazardness of the setbacking,
I am, though, contemplating why they chose to use the black spaces at certain portions, i.e. on the cantilevered elevation and on the top of the opposite's bottom setback. I realize that there ends up being a certain visual continuity; but it just leaves me a bit stumped.
Why not:
A. Just put that top cantilever-side black space flush with the setback instead of a few feet beneath it
and
B. Place another black space at the topmost setback?

I compare it most with the Trump Chicago in that the glass looks nice. If we get some nice glass here, and he can design a nicer spire, it could help with the overall "clunkiness" of the massing.


http://www.architravel.com/architrav...nd-Hotel_2.jpg_http://www.yimbynews.com/wp-content/...om-Tower-3.jpg
http://www.architravel.com/architrav...hotel-chicago/
http://www.yimbynews.com/2014/07/nor...-building.html




http://www.nydailynews.com/life-styl...icle-1.1860838

Nordstrom Tower in Midtown will be world's tallest residential building
Extell Development's proposed tower will rise to 1,775 feet at 227 W. 57th St., taller than the Empire State Building and slightly under 1 World Trade Center.


By Katherine Clarke

What an uninspired design. When I heard they hired Adrian Smith, I expected something dull like Trump Chicago, and that's exactly what we got. He's a hack. I actually prefer his original renderings, which while amateurish in massing, were at least spare and could have been beautiful in it's audacity. Now he has added a haphazard bunch of creases and cantilevers and it looks like an absent-minded doodle. I hate to say it, because this man is changing our skyline, but Barnett is an awful developer. He needs to be banished from New York.

Those were massing models according to RobertWalpole.

Also one of the recent articles stated that Barnett refused to let the Art League see final renderings of the building.