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McSky Oct 18, 2013 2:30 AM

The diagram of 111 W 57th looks great. But the roof height is erroneously set to 1000 feet, so the model is misplaced if a selection by roof height is made.

Perklol Oct 18, 2013 2:59 AM

This will look fantastic. I am certain that Jds will get loans for this landmark.

koops65 Oct 18, 2013 6:52 AM

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Originally Posted by McSky (Post 6306828)
The diagram of 111 W 57th looks great. But the roof height is erroneously set to 1000 feet, so the model is misplaced if a selection by roof height is made.

I don't know who made the entry for this tower, but you're right, there is no way the roof is at 1000 feet. At a rough guess, I'd put the roof height around 1230 to 1260 feet.

McSky Oct 18, 2013 4:43 PM

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Originally Posted by koops65 (Post 6307051)
I don't know who made the entry for this tower, but you're right, there is no way the roof is at 1000 feet. At a rough guess, I'd put the roof height around 1230 to 1260 feet.

I think something was posted (maybe DOB document) that had the highest occupied floor as 1200 feet. So 1230 to 1260 is reasonable for the roof, then leading to the fins or spires at the very top.

NYguy Oct 18, 2013 7:19 PM

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Originally Posted by McSky (Post 6307460)
I think something was posted (maybe DOB document) that had the highest occupied floor as 1200 feet. So 1230 to 1260 is reasonable for the roof, then leading to the fins or spires at the very top.

The last 3 floors will be mechanical. When we get better drawings we will have a better idea of what the "roof" is.



http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/152945086/original.jpg

NYguy Oct 18, 2013 7:53 PM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 6297771)
http://www.citylandnyc.org/proposed-...ll/#more-20423

Proposed Residential Tower Would Encroach on Site of Steinway Hall


10/07/2013


Updated from the last hearing...


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Update (10/17/13):


On October 15, 2013, the applicant returned to Landmarks. Charkrabarti stated that the design team had listened to the Commissioners comments and found a way to build the new structure without demolishing any of the interior courtyard fabric of Steinway Hall, except for an interior shed.

The atrium would be composed of Starfire glass, which Pasquarelli said was “the clearest glass on the market,” and would allow pedestrians to see through the lobby to the retained courtyard walls. The glass would be framed by terra cotta, “bringing some of the materiality of the tower to the streetfront.”

Commissioner Fred Bland was lavish in his praise of the project, saying it “creates a new landmark.” He said the applicant’s choice to go through the Landmarks approval process was “the hard way, but the right way.”

Commissioner Michael Goldblum remarked on the small floor plate of the tower, saying that he “can’t imagine someone who can afford it wanting to live in it,” but that was outside of the commission’s purview. Goldlblum went on to say the architecture was of a high quality.

Commissioner Joan Gerner called the project “a wonderful addition to our City.”

Chair Tierney said the “totally appropriate” project represented the way in which Landmarks could facilitate “significant architecture” in the City while allowing “important growth.”

The Commissioners unanimously voted to approve the project.
I really hope they lean on Extell next week to get rid of that cantilever.

NYguy Oct 18, 2013 10:33 PM

virtualawrence

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3800/1...52e0edf2_h.jpg

Perklol Oct 18, 2013 11:43 PM

I did not realize LPC was concerned with designs of applicants. Does this mean Extell's hideous tower will be blocked by them?

antinimby Oct 19, 2013 1:16 AM

The LPC's main concern is design and always has been. There is good chance that they reject Extell's petition for the cantilever.

CCs77 Oct 19, 2013 5:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 6307987)

It would be could that when somebody goes to that exhibit, takes detailed pictuers of those drawings with the accompanying text, mainly the one on the right, the structural concept. Unfortunately in this picture we can read the details.

NYguy Oct 19, 2013 9:34 PM

^ I'll get it myself if nobody else does.


Some of the earlier plans for the tower and restoration of Steinway Hall approved by CB5, which have since been altered for LPC approval...


http://www.cb5.org/cb5/resolutions/s...treet_steinway


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.....WHEREAS, JDS Development Group, Steinway Hall's current owners are proposing to perform the following list of restorative work and alterations to the existing building:

•To clean the masonry cladding and architectural elements, and to repoint the stone and brick within the West 57th Street and West 58th Street facades.

•To remove existing brick at the eastern wall of the West 57th Street façade and to replace this with Indiana Limestone cladding and cornice to match the southern façade wall

•To create new window openings on the fourth story at the eastern wall and to install windows matching those at the fifth story and above.

•To perform a restoration of the copper roof capping the penthouse story.

•To remove two existing metal roll-down doors at the West 58th Street loading docks, and to replace these with solid wood garage doors, matching the panel detailing of the doors at "109 West 57th Street".

•To remove one metal pedestrian door at the West 58th Street loading docks, and to replace this with a dold wood door, matching the panel detailing of the doors at "109 West 57th Street".

•To restore one existing pedestrian door at the West 58th Street loading docks.

•To remove the existing brick recess in the mechanical/tank tower arches, and to replace these with glass windows.

•To perform a restoration of the copper roof capping the mechanical/tank tower.

•To remove the rear yard low rise storage building; and

WHEREAS, The applicant also proposes to penetrate through the eastern wall in order to create a new plate glass paneled entrance into Steinway & Sons Reception Room rotunda, thus removing a portion of an existing plaster interior wall; and

WHEREAS, The design of the proposed new plate glass paneled entrance is based largely upon the details of the glass paneled window at the western wall of the rotunda; and

WHEREAS, The proposed new eastern entrance into the rotunda is to follow the profile of existing pilasters, architrave and archway, and the existing roundel will be mounted inside the new glass paneling; and

WHEREAS, The proposed new eastern entrance would connect Steinway & Sons Reception Room's rotunda to the proposed new building at the adjacent site; and

WHEREAS, The proposed new building would have approximately 43'-0" of West 57th Street frontage adjacent to Steinway Hall; and

WHEREAS, As of right, one could develop a building on the adjacent site which would rise twelve stories above West 57th Street before requiring a setback, the proposed new building would have a glass façade rising only six stories to approximately 85'-0", in which an atrium space would be enclosed; and

WHEREAS, There would be a 57'-0"deep setback above the atrium space in which a Summer Garden is proposed to be placed, and from which the proposed new tower would rise; and

WHEREAS, The proposed new tower would have a glass façade, with numerous feathered set backs on the southern wall and a façade of glass, glazed terracotta and bronze on the other walls, which will rise to approximately 1,300 feet; and

WHEREAS, The proposed restorative work on the exterior of Steinway Hall is substantial, the proposed changes at West 58th Street would serve as embellishment, and the proposed changes at the mechanical/tank tower appear to be minimal; and

WHEREAS, Since, historically, this was outside of public view, removal of the rear yard two story low rise building would not have a negative impact upon the views of Landmark Steinway Hall; and

WHEREAS, The proposed modification which might have the most impact is the creation of a new eastern entrance to Steinway & Sons Reception Room rotunda, this would take cues from existing architectural elements, namely the glass paneled window at the western wall of the rotunda, and this new entrance will be harmonious with the Landmark interior; and

WHEREAS, The proposed new atrium and tower's glass materiality and massing would not obscure the style, materials, setbacks and massing of Steinway Hall, whose picturesque towers and decorative elements make it a monumental presence along West 57th Street; therefore, be it

RESOLVED, Community Board Five recommends approval of the application to perform exterior alterations to Steinway Hall, 109-113 West 57th Street, to perform interior alterations to create a new entrance to Steinway & Sons Reception Room.

Guiltyspark Oct 20, 2013 5:46 PM

Woah, and people think 432 Park is skinny.

Submariner Oct 20, 2013 5:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 6307725)
The last 3 floors will be mechanical. When we get better drawings we will have a better idea of what the "roof" is.



http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/152945086/original.jpg

Does anyone have a high resolution picture of this? Perhaps with 432 Park included? :)

Skyguy_7 Oct 20, 2013 11:43 PM

The Greatest Irony
 
An immaculate Steinway in the lobby of AS+GG's office, as the 111 proposal has taken the cake from 225 W 57th..

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-n...h549-no/13+-+1
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-0...h549-no/13+-+2

CCs77 Oct 20, 2013 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by McSky (Post 6307460)
I think something was posted (maybe DOB document) that had the highest occupied floor as 1200 feet. So 1230 to 1260 is reasonable for the roof, then leading to the fins or spires at the very top.

Scaling the drawing at the exhibit, which is what we have for now, apparently, if the total height of the building is 1350ft / 411 m. it seems that the roof will be about 1115 ft. / 340 m. with the crown being about 235 ft. / 71 m tall. assuming that the top three floors are mechanichal, the roof of the last occupied floor would be about 1075 ft. / 327 m.
The drawing is blurry so I can't read the texts to confirm that the assumptions I made are true, but looking at the drawing is what is seems

http://imageshack.us/a/img12/7448/6pj8.jpg

NYguy Oct 21, 2013 5:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CCs77 (Post 6309625)
Scaling the drawing at the exhibit, which is what we have for now, apparently, if the total height of the building is 1350ft / 411 m. it seems that the roof will be about 1115 ft. / 340 m. with the crown being about 235 ft. / 71 m tall. assuming that the top three floors are mechanichal, the roof of the last occupied floor would be about 1075 ft. / 327 m.


According to the permit on file, 1,200 ft seems to be the highest occupied spaces in the tower. I'm guessing it's about 1,300 ft minus the glass "spires" on top. That would give about 100 ft of mechanical space.

NYguy Oct 22, 2013 5:06 AM

( October 21, 2013 )

Steinway Hall awaits its makeover...


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/153005572/original.jpg



http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/153005571/original.jpg

Onn Oct 22, 2013 5:32 AM

^
I love the proximity of this and One 57. It's definitely going to be a cozy street. "Hey honey, were going over to neighbor's for dinner tonight..." :haha:

King DenCity Oct 24, 2013 12:05 AM

With all these towers I'm gonna call 57th st "Tall St". The number of projects is amazing!

Guiltyspark Oct 24, 2013 2:49 AM

The way that this and One57 pay homage to the old New York setback towers is awesome.


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