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ethereal_reality Mar 18, 2014 9:00 PM

:previous: Amazing earthquake photographs BRR.




I found this booklet on ebay a while back.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...0/823/dht8.jpg


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...90/59/os6a.jpg




http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/203/e080.jpg




When I looked up the address I found this windowless white building in it's spot.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/809/x43x.jpg
google_earth




Corner of Venice Blvd. and S. Olive St.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/843/zymh.jpg



On closer inspection I realized it's the same building. After a few more searches I located this photograph of the Frank Wiggins Trade School.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...90/69/krt7.jpg
www.vimeo.com/14429162


Here it is today from pretty much the same angle.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...0/703/qk46.jpg




http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/27/u5zy.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/844/btwp.jpg
usc

I have no idea why they decided to cover up all the windows. One website said it was done in the 1960s. aargh!

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ProphetM Mar 18, 2014 9:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6499285)
:previous:Hey GW, thanks for the info. on the A.D. Pala House.



Shell service station, 2322 South Central Avenue
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/42/lnc6.jpgebay



Imagine my surprise when I typed in the address and this building shows up! Do you think it's one and the same?
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...90/42/snm3.jpgGSV
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Los Angeles GIS puts 2322 as the property next door to this building - a carport structure attached to the left rear of the building sits on that property. This building is at 2324, and GIS says it was built in 1912, so it may be the building next door to the garage in the old pic.

ethereal_reality Mar 18, 2014 9:39 PM

-might have been a tad bit overloaded doncha' think?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...0/854/el5y.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...0/822/54fq.jpg
ebay

ethereal_reality Mar 18, 2014 10:03 PM

a couple more Pasadena houses from that booklet I found on ebay.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...0/401/vzkq.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...0/844/9h13.jpg
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http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...90/42/p67o.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...0/713/k7xn.jpg

HossC Mar 18, 2014 10:11 PM

I found some pictures showing what took place inside the walls of the Frank Wiggins Trade School.

"Lecture for printing students at Frank Wiggins Trade School, 1920-1929"

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...nkWiggins1.jpg
USC Digital Library

"Instructional exhibit by Frank Wiggins Trade School, showing students and teacher, ca.1920-1929"

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...nkWiggins2.jpg
USC Digital Library

Here's an enlargement of the sign on the right. The only years between 1920 and 1929 that would fit these dates are 1921 and 1927.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...nkWiggins3.jpg
Detail of picture above.

"Instructional exhibit by Frank Wiggins Trade School, showing students and teacher, ca.1920-1929"

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...nkWiggins4.jpg
USC Digital Library

Tetsu Mar 18, 2014 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6496650)

Does anybody have any information on the building at right (NE corner of Broadway & Olympic, I believe)? The building with what appears to be 'Martindale's Buffet' on the ground floor. I've never seen it before and it's quite a fascinating building. I wonder if the buildings currently at the same location are the chopped-down, remodeled remnants of it:

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/...psadb49f43.jpgGSV

GaylordWilshire Mar 18, 2014 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollywood Graham (Post 6499701)
I guess you are right, I should never have considered my charges important enough to consider their safety above mine.


HG: This is really the point--do the anchors have assigned "charges" among the studio staff? While earthquake precautions aren't part of the program here in NY, fire safety is--when I've worked in tall office buildings here in NY there was a specific plan involving assigned "wardens" who were responsible for implementing a drill in which you knew what was expected of you. In other words, "leadership in the face of danger" is spelled out, not assumed. Everyone did what they were supposed to do, whether a "chief" or an "Indian," and it was clear that deviating from the plan could cause more harm than good. Presumably California has similar protocols. It seems obvious to me that the engineer of any safety plan might think the studio staff as well as the public best served by having the anchors get under their desks in the event of an earthquake.

HossC Mar 19, 2014 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tetsu (Post 6500031)
Does anybody have any information on the building at right (NE corner of Broadway & Olympic, I believe)? The building with what appears to be 'Martindale's Buffet' on the ground floor. I've never seen it before and it's quite a fascinating building. I wonder if the buildings currently at the same location are the chopped-down, remodeled remnants of it:

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/...psadb49f43.jpgGSV

Here's a slightly earlier picture of the corner building from 1926.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

You could get Tacoma Brew on draught, but I can't read the name of the buffet. There's also a sign for the Hotel Lyle.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
Detail of picture above.

By 1939 the building was shared by the Oasis Cafe and the Sinclair Wallpaper and Paint Co.
NB. I've lightened the original image to show the detail better.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original
USC Digital Library


More pictures for those who are interested:

USC has a couple more pictures which include the building on the corner. The first shows the front when it was Martindale's Buffet. They served Eastside beer.

View of Broadway looking north from Tenth Street (Olympic Boulevard), Los Angeles, ca.1929

The corner building isn't as clear on this one, but it's taken from a higher angle and shows extensive work being carried out on the street car tracks.

In Downtown Los Angeles facing north on South Broadway at West Olympic Boulevard

ethereal_reality Mar 19, 2014 12:40 AM

:previous: I've never noticed this building before. Does the Hotel Lyle show up in the city directories?
(glad you pointed it out Tetsu/good research HossC)

Hollywood Graham Mar 19, 2014 12:43 AM

Photograph Year
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 6499809)




'33 Long Beach Quake



Some are familiar with W.C. Field's contribution to earthquake safety allegedly filmed during the '33 quake.






Footage of the Long Beach Quake: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4-26EIqEac


Relief Camp at Lincoln Park, LB
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...3XJ6B8A258.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...3XJ6B8A258.jpg

Day after LB Quake

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...3FPAUJBYVY.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...3FPAUJBYVY.jpg

Pike suffers damage too.
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...NQJBXFSG91.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...NQJBXFSG91.jpg


Compton (seen before) Example of widespread damage.
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...NDG8HPEXP3.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...NDG8HPEXP3.jpg


Shore Patrol stands guard
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...E2QLUY41VB.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...E2QLUY41VB.jpg


Open Air Mkt
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...ALG9M7M8Q2.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...ALG9M7M8Q2.jpg



'33 LA Suburbs - Where peanut butter and jelly is appreciated.
http://imgzoom.cdlib.org/Converter?i...0&w=1200&h=676http://imgzoom.cdlib.org/Converter?i...0&w=1200&h=676

http://imgzoom.cdlib.org/Converter?i...0&w=1200&h=768http://imgzoom.cdlib.org/Converter?i...0&w=1200&h=768

Compton Bank Now Open. Wondering if they can cash a check/
http://imgzoom.cdlib.org/Converter?i...0&w=1124&h=768http://imgzoom.cdlib.org/Converter?i...0&w=1124&h=768


Ideal Laundry, South Van Ness, Long Beach
http://imgzoom.cdlib.org/Converter?i...0&w=1200&h=685http://imgzoom.cdlib.org/Converter?i...0&w=1200&h=685


Apts on Cedar Street, Long Beach.
http://imgzoom.cdlib.org/Converter?i...0&w=1200&h=672http://imgzoom.cdlib.org/Converter?i...0&w=1200&h=672





And in a few short years no more double vision?

Source dates this image to 1940. Autos appear to be from much earlier date. Presently unable to peg date to Musical Premier. Anyone have tickets?

1940(?)
http://imgzoom.cdlib.org/Converter?i...0&w=1030&h=643http://imgzoom.cdlib.org/Converter?i...0&w=1030&h=643




Fri. May 26th, as on the banner, fell in 1933 and 1939. No cars present resemble 1939 models so I would venture to say it is 1933. The 26th fell on Sun. in 1940.

ethereal_reality Mar 19, 2014 12:48 AM

I found this downtown street scene on ebay last November (2013).

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/401/24bw.jpg
ebay

I can't quite read the blade sign in the distance...to me it looks like 'cowards wildly'. lol-obviously my eyes are shot. :blind:

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Flyingwedge Mar 19, 2014 1:24 AM

Venice Panorama
 
Way back in May 2010 gsjansen posted some panoramic photos from the Library of Congress: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1337

Another photo in the collection looks southwest at Venice "c. 1908" from above approximately what is now Abbot Kinney Blvd. and California Avenue. To avoid excessive panning, I've cut the photo
in half. This is the right half; the street that starts at the center bottom of the photo and is lined with small palm trees and the Venice Miniature Rail Road line is Abbot Kinney Blvd. What is now
Electric Avenue is to the right of Abbot Kinney:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...8.jpg~original

The left half of the photo. The unseen intersection just off the bottom of the photo at left is Abbot Kinney Blvd. and Rialto Ave.; the latter has a bridge over the canal. The canal is now
Grand Blvd. on the left side of the bridge and Cabrillo Ave. on the right side. Abott Kinney intersects with Venice Blvd. above the left bottom corner. The tudor-esque house near the center
is 587 Grand, and the house at right is 544 Rialto. The LA County Assessor says each was built in 1910:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...2.jpg~original
Library of Congress -- http://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource...a18137/?co=pan

Today:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...5.jpg~original
Bing

Closer
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...d.jpg~original

587 Grand
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...e.jpg~original
GSV

544 Rialto
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...d.jpg~original
GSV

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...2.jpg~original
Google Map

Here's another map of the same area as above (sorry for the small size), showing the location of Venice Park, where the Venice Tigers -- before and after known as the Vernon
Tigers -- of the Pacific Coast League played 1913-15, at what is now the SW corner of South Venice Blvd. and Abbot Kinney Blvd.:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...5.jpg~original
SABR -- http://sabr.org/research/pacific-coa...ks-los-angeles

Now let's take a closer look at the left edge of that panoramic photo again:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...a.jpg~original

Based on the description of what Venice Park looked like, I believe this is a photo of the Los Angeles Gun Club grounds, where Venice Park would be built.
In addition, the three buildings in the center of the photo are the maintenance facilities for the Venice Miniature Rail Road. You can see the tracks curve
from Abbot Kinney into the maintenance yard, and it appears that four of the passenger cars are visible on the right side of the long building:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...6.jpg~original
Jan 26, 1913 Los Angeles Times

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...8.jpg~original
Mar 14, 1913 Los Angeles Times

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...5.jpg~original
Mar 27, 1913 Los Angeles Times

This panoramic photo is the closest I've come to seeing a photo of Venice Park, of which I believe there are no known photos.

HossC Mar 19, 2014 1:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6500228)

Does the Hotel Lyle show up in the city directories?

The Hotel Lyle at 960 South Broadway appears in several of the City Directories.


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Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6500239)

I can't quite read the blade sign in the distance...to me it looks like 'cowards wildly'. lol-obviously my eyes are shot. :blind:

It's the Edwards and Wildey Office Building at South Grand and West Sixth (seen here with the blade sign pointed straight at the camera).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

And here's the other side in the bottom right.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

It's now the Milano Lofts.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original
GSV

ethereal_reality Mar 19, 2014 1:56 AM

:previous: Thanks once again HossC; what would I do without you? ;)
So my lame 'cowards wildly' is 'Edward Wildley'.

Any idea about the corner ground floor tenant Jerrem's?

HossC Mar 19, 2014 2:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6500317)

Any idea about the corner ground floor tenant Jerrem's?

It is Jerrems. According to the City Directories, the 601 S Grand address was home to the Jerrems California Co. The earlier City Directories have tailors named William and Donald Jerrems at various addresses - I'm guessing they are connected in some way.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original
Detail of picture above.

unihikid Mar 19, 2014 3:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tetsu (Post 6339829)
I've driven by that house a few times while exploring. That section of East Adams really has some incredible Victorians left. Is it possible the house has been altered into its present appearance? When I first saw it, my mind wouldn't let me accept any other explanation for the unusual architecture, lol.

http://www.laparks.org/images/facili...thSeahouse.jpg

About the other house you found on 24th & Arlington, I think it's been covered on Noirish before, but it was built in 1902 for Joseph Dupuy. You're right, it's now owned by the city and operated as a recreation center, and now known as the "South Seas House." More info to be found here.

In 03 I would walk by the South Seas House everyday,one day i took my Kodak Retina type 2A with me,they had started the resto on it but here is what i caught on a hazy day back in 03....also some other houses that were in the area.
[IMG][URL=http://s292.photobucket.com/user/unihikid/media/new002_zps059b0af9.jpg.html]
[IMG]http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/m...psf282bb5c.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/m...ps87ba94d3.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/m...ps765c8614.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/m...psd4b6f424.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/m...psa2e297cd.jpg[/IMG]
Sorry about the lighting, I just figured out how to use the Retina,and didnt set it well(i set it via the film type and not the camera type).

unihikid Mar 19, 2014 3:11 AM

[IMG]http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/m...ps059b0af9.jpg[/IMG]

Retired_in_Texas Mar 19, 2014 3:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 6499809)


And in a few short years no more double vision?

Source dates this image to 1940. Autos appear to be from much earlier date. Presently unable to peg date to Musical Premier. Anyone have tickets?

1940(?)
http://imgzoom.cdlib.org/Converter?i...0&w=1030&h=643http://imgzoom.cdlib.org/Converter?i...0&w=1030&h=643





The photo does indeed lead to questioning. However, "Sailors Three" was a WWII era British film released in 1940 leaving no logical explanation as to why the newest vehicle seen in the photo would appear to be of either 1935 or 1936 vintage. The claim of "World Premier" seen on the banner is a bit wrong given it premiered in England, and the size of the cast would almost make one believe it was a live performance. Not!

Tourmaline Mar 19, 2014 5:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retired_in_Texas (Post 6500442)
The photo does indeed lead to questioning. However, "Sailors Three" was a WWII era British film released in 1940 leaving no logical explanation as to why the newest vehicle seen in the photo would appear to be of either 1935 or 1936 vintage. The claim of "World Premier" seen on the banner is a bit wrong given it premiered in England, and the size of the cast would almost make one believe it was a live performance. Not!


http://imgzoom.cdlib.org/Converter?i...0&w=1030&h=643

If we assume for the moment that the banner is accurate, then the Sailors Three reference is to a one night [stage] show with a large cast at the Long Beach Municipal Auditorium. As you note this would be an unlikely venue for the world premier of a British film. Not impossible, but improbable. Not to be unfair toward Long Beach but has it ever been known for World Premiers? IMDB indicates the US release of the British film was in '41.

The title of banner is no guarantee that it refers to the same '40 British film. This would be particularly true if the date of the photo and the show was in '33, as deduced by Dr. Hollywood Graham.

Anecdotally, the late Municipal Auditorium, pictured below, was far more than a '30s movie palace.
"The fill for the auditorium and the Rainbow Pier was begun October 1928 and completed in December 1930. Only then, could the $2.8 million Long Beach Municipal Auditorium, which was financed through a bond issue, be built.

It was completed in late 1931 and officially opened on March 6, 1932. It was mainly a convention center for tournaments, dog shows, tennis matches, fashion shows, auto shows, rabbit shows and American Legion conventions. The biggest crowds have been credited to Jehovah Witness meetings, which now are held in the newer convention center which replaced it.

In March 1947, famed show pianist Liberace supposedly made his stage debut a the Municipal Auditorium as a benefit for the White Shrine as is known as the 'Liberace world tour inaugural' complete with 500 custom pressings of “Warsaw Concerto” and “The Fire Dance,” which were autographed and sold as souvenirs." http://longbeachhistory.wordpress.co...gory/theaters/
Alas, I have been proven wrong in the past. :redface:


http://longbeachhistory.files.wordpr...umexterior.jpghttp://longbeachhistory.files.wordpr...umexterior.jpg

http://jpg2.lapl.org/theater1/00014881.jpghttp://jpg2.lapl.org/theater1/00014881.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5271/7...ff8b61fd_b.jpghttp://farm6.staticflickr.com/5271/7...ff8b61fd_b.jpg

ProphetM Mar 19, 2014 6:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tetsu (Post 6500031)
Does anybody have any information on the building at right (NE corner of Broadway & Olympic, I believe)? The building with what appears to be 'Martindale's Buffet' on the ground floor. I've never seen it before and it's quite a fascinating building. I wonder if the buildings currently at the same location are the chopped-down, remodeled remnants of it:

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/...psadb49f43.jpgGSV

GIS says 1947 for both of the buildings closest to the corner. Not definitive as sometimes it can be wrong, but I tend to believe this one.


Also, thanks to BifRayRock for posting those stereo photos of earthquake aftermath! I used them as an excuse to bust out the stereo viewer, and they look wonderful in 3-D. :tup:


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