SkyscraperPage Forum

SkyscraperPage Forum (https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/index.php)
-   City Compilations (https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=87)
-   -   SAN DIEGO | Boom Rundown, Vol. 2 (https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=126473)

The Flying Dutchman Aug 1, 2017 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyleraf (Post 7880043)
That is the Fairfield Inn by Marriott.
https://sandiego.urbdezine.com/2014/...own-san-diego/

Still Marriott, but different concept (more boutique-y).

http://jstreethospitality.com/portfolio/moxy-san-diego/
http://jstreethospitality.com/wp-con...1040124462.jpg

mello Aug 1, 2017 8:14 PM

Regarding the airport I'm surprised no one has brought up the expansion of Palomar Airport. For how long has Miami had 2 very busy airports just 25 miles from eachother? 30 years now it seems... In ten years the San Diego metro area will be at the maturity level of the Miami/Ft. Lauderdale/Palm Beach metro was back in 1987 so why wouldn't that kind of setup here be realistic?

I know that Miami/Ft. L has a HUGE cruise ship industry and tons of people from the BOS/WASH corridor with second or third residences in the Metro but an airport in Carlsbad would serve the booming SW Riverside county area and also North County Tourism continues to grow steadily. Some people from the very far south of OC might also use this as an option as well.

I could easily see SAN topping out at around 30 million passengers a year and Palomar Airport which is 30 miles away handling 5 to 10 million eventually (no cargo).

spoonman Aug 1, 2017 8:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mello (Post 7881920)
Regarding the airport I'm surprised no one has brought up the expansion of Palomar Airport. For how long has Miami had 2 very busy airports just 25 miles from eachother? 30 years now it seems... In ten years the San Diego metro area will be at the maturity level of the Miami/Ft. Lauderdale/Palm Beach metro was back in 1987 so why wouldn't that kind of setup here be realistic?

I know that Miami/Ft. L has a HUGE cruise ship industry and tons of people from the BOS/WASH corridor with second or third residences in the Metro but an airport in Carlsbad would serve the booming SW Riverside county area and also North County Tourism continues to grow steadily. Some people from the very far south of OC might also use this as an option as well.

I could easily see SAN topping out at around 30 million passengers a year and Palomar Airport which is 30 miles away handling 5 to 10 million eventually (no cargo).

Good point, Mello. I've actually heard plans to do what you are suggesting should SAN stay in it's current location.

For those that don't know, Carlsbad has been a mini secondary airport until recently when United pulled out of Carlsbad due to retirement of all of the Brasilia aircraft in the fleet. The recent change from the Brasilia to CRJ's made Carlsbad no longer viable for operations due to the short runway. At Carlsbad's height in the 90's and early 2000's, Carlsbad was served by both United and American. As of now, Surf Air is the only "commercial" service at the airport. There are currently plans to expand the length of the runway which would allow commercial service to begin again.

The Flying Dutchman Aug 1, 2017 9:08 PM

The County just posted a RFSQ (Request for Statement of Qualifications) to develop the old courthouse blocks downtown.

http://www.sandiegocounty.gov/conten...seCommons.html

ucsbgaucho Aug 1, 2017 9:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spoonman (Post 7881937)
Good point, Mello. I've actually heard plans to do what you are suggesting should SAN stay in it's current location.

For those that don't know, Carlsbad has been a mini secondary airport until recently when United pulled out of Carlsbad due to retirement of all of the Brasilia aircraft in the fleet. The recent change from the Brasilia to CRJ's made Carlsbad no longer viable for operations due to the short runway. At Carlsbad's height in the 90's and early 2000's, Carlsbad was served by both United and American. As of now, Surf Air is the only "commercial" service at the airport. There are currently plans to expand the length of the runway which would allow commercial service to begin again.

If you think NIMBY's were a problem when Miramar was in play, good luck with anything in Carlsbad. They're probably very lucky that airport has remained as it is now with the tiny commercial operation it is.

spoonman Aug 1, 2017 11:17 PM

Speak of the devil...albeit this is a no-name airline with connecting service to LAX.

If the runway is extended, no doubt service will again expand to additional airlines and destinations. "The airfield's allure is limited given the length of its runway 6/24 is only 1,500 metres"

Carlsbad, CA set to resume scheduled traffic in late 2Q17
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...c-in-late-2q17

sixonenine Aug 6, 2017 1:22 AM

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...se2-story.html

So its a bit cheezy but I found this design quite charming for the coronado bridge, what do you guys think?

Nerv Aug 6, 2017 1:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixonenine (Post 7885823)
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...se2-story.html

So its a bit cheezy but I found this design quite charming for the coronado bridge, what do you guys think?


As long as they stay close to the original concept I'm happy.

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...707-story.html

Also very happy that they finally have the funds to move forward with the project. Crossing my fingers they meet their lights on the bridge by 2019.

Nerv Aug 6, 2017 1:44 AM

I know IDEA is opening soon and Broadstone is under construction with a opening date next year but has the Streetlights project (28 stories) in Makers Corner broken ground yet as it has been listed as doing so? If it hasn't I'm guessing the 2018 opening date for Streetlights is going to prove false.

sixonenine Aug 9, 2017 12:18 AM

http://www.10news.com/news/san-diego...-across-runway


Transit center/trolley station @ Lindbergh Field? YES PLEASE!:nyancat::nyancat::nyancat::nyancat::nyancat::nyancat:

Derek Aug 9, 2017 2:02 AM

I can't wait for the renderings. That would be huge for SAN.

HurricaneHugo Aug 9, 2017 3:49 AM

On existing rail across the runway?

So by Washington and Pacific Highway?

The Flying Dutchman Aug 9, 2017 4:26 AM

It's a 10 year-old plan. I have no idea why 10news "reported" this out of the blue. Google: Intermodal Transit Center San Diego

http://nettstrategies.com/wp-content...Feb_8_2008.pdf

spoonman Aug 9, 2017 2:44 PM

I'm pretty sure the near term plan is enhancements to the Washington St. station with plans for a shuttle to the terminals

Derek Aug 9, 2017 5:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Flying Dutchman (Post 7888168)
It's a 10 year-old plan. I have no idea why 10news "reported" this out of the blue. Google: Intermodal Transit Center San Diego

http://nettstrategies.com/wp-content...Feb_8_2008.pdf


Dang it...

psychotron Aug 9, 2017 5:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Flying Dutchman (Post 7888168)
It's a 10 year-old plan. I have no idea why 10news "reported" this out of the blue. Google: Intermodal Transit Center San Diego

http://nettstrategies.com/wp-content...Feb_8_2008.pdf

This plan is pretty incredible. Total relocation of both terminals to the north side, additional runway, and an intermodal transit center. This plan is pretty much dead, given the new T2 expansion, new consolidated rental car facility, and plans to rebuild T1. Not to mention that the SD leg of HSR will most liekly be the last to be built, if it ever gets built.

I believe spoonman is correct -- plan is to introduce an airport specific shuttle that runs along a dedicated roadway on the perimeter of the airport to shuttle betweeen Washington St station and the terminals.

The Flying Dutchman Aug 9, 2017 9:31 PM

The shuttle is really just a shuttle to a parking garage that "conveniently" drops you off 1000 ft. away from the trolley stop. Best part is, you get to walk across Pacific Highway for a final F U.

There is a great bus route (992) that basically loops to all terminals and America Plaza and down Broadway to City College. It honestly baffles me that it barely gets used most of the time.

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.7323...7i13312!8i6656
http://www.san.org/Parking-Transport...rolley-service

Streamliner Aug 10, 2017 4:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Flying Dutchman (Post 7888788)
The shuttle is really just a shuttle to a parking garage that "conveniently" drops you off 1000 ft. away from the trolley stop. Best part is, you get to walk across Pacific Highway for a final F U.

There is a great bus route (992) that basically loops to all terminals and America Plaza and down Broadway to City College. It honestly baffles me that it barely gets used most of the time.

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.7323...7i13312!8i6656
http://www.san.org/Parking-Transport...rolley-service

I agree. I've used this before and it worked out great! But I had to specifically ask the info kiosk where to find it as it wasn't very well advertised. One would think that MTS and the Airport Authority would want to band together and spend a little bit of money to really emphasize this service. Especially considering all of the "Public Transit to the Airport Sucks" complaints that's always thrown their way. Do a bit of advertising within the airport and in town, maybe rename it to something besides "992 bus".

The Flying Dutchman Aug 10, 2017 5:50 PM

I agree, a simple branding/paint job would work wonders. Maybe even extend the loop to cover Market St. :cheers:

IMBY Aug 17, 2017 5:26 PM

Just returned from the San Diego/Tijuana Metro area, it's been over a year.

In the 83 trips I've made down there since 1997, riding the Tijuana Trolley, why isn't there any housing being built at the rail stops en route to San Ysidro? I'd think there'd be a huge demand for it.

Since my last trip 5/16, I couldn't believe what they've done to the Border station, completely destroyed and a new one being built. Just across, 6-10 blocks from the Border, I was pleased to see the 4th 30-story apt./condo tower is almost completed in their New City complex. Love the urban density and looking at the towers from San Ysidro. Am wondering if they're going to add any more towers to that complex. Anyone know?

I don't like the new lengthy exit from TJ to Customs, that approach must be a mile long!:koko: It is easier getting thru Customs, but once you leave Customs, Holy Cow! it's a long, long, long walk back over the Freeway bridge to catch the train in front of McDonald's. I asked the Customs agent why the never ending approach, and complained of it being a senior, and he jokingly said: it's to deter more people from coming to TJ!:uhh:

Just east of the ritzier part of Revolution (Sanborn's/Jail Alai) there's a glass condo tower going up and another one, with a crane, is sprouting up closer to Revolution.

I just wish they'd add more much-needed housing to Centro. The Prez of Mexico made a pledge to stop building housing for the poor on the outskirts of Mexican cities, and build more housing for the poor in the inner cities, but I see no evidence of that in Centro, or the Zona Rio district.

I rode the van to Rosarito via the Carratera Libre and I saw some new housing developments in the valley's, copy-cat American type developments, townhouses/houses all looking alike, and all gated.:slob:

I love the solidity of construction in "Poor Man's San Francisco", in many ways, you could say it's way overbuilt. Even my motel room at the Ville Di Zargosa, you pound on the wall between the unit's, all solid concrete, concrete roofs and floors, all so heavy duty. Even the houses! Would you even need a Fire Department down there?

Love that curved glass tower in downtown San Diego, near the new Intercontinental Hotel under construction, which I'll never stay in, as I don't do hermetically sealed windows. No balcony, or aisle balcony, forget it!!!!


All times are GMT. The time now is 11:38 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.