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Dmajackson Aug 15, 2019 12:09 AM

[Dartmouth] 112-114 Wyse Road | 69 m | 20 fl | Proposed
 
I was going to post the rendering but Tumblr doesn't like me right now. :(

New proposal from Dunphy Wyse Road Developments for the former bank on the northeast corner of Wyse Road and Nantucket Avenue.

Case #22487 - 112-114 Wyse Road

atbw Aug 15, 2019 1:13 AM

Looks like this area is getting the Young/Robie treatment of some much-needed density and investment.

teddifax Aug 15, 2019 2:08 AM

I really like this one..

someone123 Aug 15, 2019 3:59 AM

Here is one of the renderings:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/9908/0ql0bK.jpg

Hali87 Aug 15, 2019 4:10 AM

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ry4d0d6g7m...se-1.png?raw=1

https://www.dropbox.com/s/twqipv9zoq...se-2.png?raw=1

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yd98vv07uo...se-4.png?raw=1

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5orzvnsiop...se-3.png?raw=1

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8lv8bqsqht...se-5.png?raw=1

pblaauw Aug 15, 2019 6:03 AM

I really hope someone opens an eatery called Right Ssäm Good. :D

Keith P. Aug 15, 2019 11:26 AM

Good luck with that having apparently zero parking in that location.

atbw Aug 15, 2019 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atbw (Post 8658859)
Looks like this area is getting the Young/Robie treatment of some much-needed density and investment.

Come to think of it, this is right next to a major bus terminal, a 10-15 min walk to the ferry and soon to be along new bike infrastructure on Wyse and the bridge. With so much underused land here, this whole area is prime for some change.

eastcoastal Aug 15, 2019 2:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pblaauw (Post 8659080)
I really hope someone opens an eatery called Right Ssäm Good. :D

hundred percent

eastcoastal Aug 15, 2019 2:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith P. (Post 8659124)
Good luck with that having apparently zero parking in that location.

Landscape plans don't appear to show any spots at grade, except vague labeling of "existing parking lot" adjacent to the developed area (to the southeast). I took a look at Google Maps, and it looks like there's 130+/- spots between this site and the adjacent Sportsplex... more to the northeast between this proposal/Sportsplex and the transit bridge terminal. Probably not wise to count to heavily on parking provided by adjacent property.

104 spots in the interior of the building.

Keith P. Aug 15, 2019 3:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eastcoastal (Post 8659286)
Landscape plans don't appear to show any spots at grade, except vague labeling of "existing parking lot" adjacent to the developed area (to the southeast). I took a look at Google Maps, and it looks like there's 130+/- spots between this site and the adjacent Sportsplex... more to the northeast between this proposal/Sportsplex and the transit bridge terminal. Probably not wise to count to heavily on parking provided by adjacent property.

104 spots in the interior of the building.

All the surface parking there is either rented or allocated to the Sportsplex to my knowledge.

Takeo Aug 15, 2019 6:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atbw (Post 8659140)
Come to think of it, this is right next to a major bus terminal, a 10-15 min walk to the ferry and soon to be along new bike infrastructure on Wyse and the bridge. With so much underused land here, this whole area is prime for some change.

Also across the street from an amazing Montreal Bagel shop! And literally next door to the Sportsplex. And walking distance to downtown Dartmouth as well. Pretty great location in a lot of ways. Except that it will stand alone in a desert of strip malls and surface parking. But perhaps the area will fill in over time. I'm hoping Young / Robie / Windsor will fill in over time as well. Really great looking building. Bummer that not all units have balconies though. Looks like the Bachelors will be balcony-less.

Colin May Aug 15, 2019 11:07 PM

The parking to the east belongs to HRM and is part of the Dartmouth Common and the parking revenue goes to the Sportsplex.
The lot is just 92 feet wide and is narrower at Wyse.
This design appears to show the building footprint as filling the 2 lots.
The land to the west belongs to HRM as part of the roadway and sidewalk.
What was the Scotiabank sign marked the edge of the commercial property.
In the Centre Plan the sidewalk and the grassy area is zoned C and I have pointed out to staff that their map incorrectly zones a portion.
This map shows the public space may be retained but the proponent has talked with HRM re purchasing or leasing the space for patios or streetscaping.
: https://www.halifax.ca/sites/default...4_Redacted.pdf
Registered Office for the company 112 Wyse Road Partnership is a duplex on Walter Havill Drive and the partnership comprises the two Preszler brothers from Toronto and a related company is headed by Alex Dunphy at the Walter Havill Drive home.
Parking underground : 104 spaces

JET Aug 19, 2019 7:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colin May (Post 8659930)
The parking to the east belongs to HRM and is part of the Dartmouth Common and the parking revenue goes to the Sportsplex.
The lot is just 92 feet wide and is narrower at Wyse.
This design appears to show the building footprint as filling the 2 lots.
The land to the west belongs to HRM as part of the roadway and sidewalk.
What was the Scotiabank sign marked the edge of the commercial property.
In the Centre Plan the sidewalk and the grassy area is zoned C and I have pointed out to staff that their map incorrectly zones a portion.
This map shows the public space may be retained but the proponent has talked with HRM re purchasing or leasing the space for patios or streetscaping.
: https://www.halifax.ca/sites/default...4_Redacted.pdf
Registered Office for the company 112 Wyse Road Partnership is a duplex on Walter Havill Drive and the partnership comprises the two Preszler brothers from Toronto and a related company is headed by Alex Dunphy at the Walter Havill Drive home.
Parking underground : 104 spaces

Although a nice addition, that corner needs more parking, not a building where car/drivers will no doubt choose to park outside. Getting a spot to park to attend the Sportsplex will be nigh on impossible at times.

Jstaleness Aug 19, 2019 7:50 PM

I'm a fan. Has sort of an International Place (proposal) and Horizon III proposal by Micmac. I'd forgotten the Scotiabank closed so this was a bit of a surprise.

OldDartmouthMark Aug 19, 2019 9:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JET (Post 8662844)
Although a nice addition, that corner needs more parking, not a building where car/drivers will no doubt choose to park outside. Getting a spot to park to attend the Sportsplex will be nigh on impossible at times.

I wonder how much underground parking would be possible? Seems like a small footprint, though, so probably not much.

Overall I like the look for that corner. That once-vibrant area of Dartmouth has been a little too empty lot-ish in the last number of years - it definitely needs an upgrade.

Querce Aug 20, 2019 1:59 AM

104 parking spots in 3 underground parking levels

Colin May Aug 20, 2019 2:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldDartmouthMark (Post 8663002)
I wonder how much underground parking would be possible? Seems like a small footprint, though, so probably not much.

Overall I like the look for that corner. That once-vibrant area of Dartmouth has been a little too empty lot-ish in the last number of years - it definitely needs an upgrade.

The property abuts the Dartmouth Common. The developer wants to buy/lease the space between the sign and Nantucket. The exit from the property to the north is on Common land and has legislated restrictions.
In the application the architect quotes outdated legislation. I wrote to him to detail the accurate parts of the legislation passed by the Dexter government.

https://www.halifax.ca/business/plan...e-rd-dartmouth

The letter from the architect is here : https://www.halifax.ca/business/plan...e-rd-dartmouth
note page 3 has the outdated/inaccurate reference to the Dartmouth Common legislation.
The Dartmouth Common Master Plan envisaged this corner returning to public ownership. The plan was 'adopted in principle' but HRM staff interpret the phrase to mean whatever they want it to mean.
In 1960 a planning consultant recommended that all land from Dartmouth High to Windmill Road be retained as green space.

OldDartmouthMark Aug 20, 2019 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Querce (Post 8663278)
104 parking spots in 3 underground parking levels

Well this solves that dilemma...

OldDartmouthMark Aug 20, 2019 3:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colin May (Post 8663324)
The property abuts the Dartmouth Common. The developer wants to buy/lease the space between the sign and Nantucket. The exit from the property to the north is on Common land and has legislated restrictions.
In the application the architect quotes outdated legislation. I wrote to him to detail the accurate parts of the legislation passed by the Dexter government.

https://www.halifax.ca/business/plan...e-rd-dartmouth

The letter from the architect is here : https://www.halifax.ca/business/plan...e-rd-dartmouth
note page 3 has the outdated/inaccurate reference to the Dartmouth Common legislation.
The Dartmouth Common Master Plan envisaged this corner returning to public ownership. The plan was 'adopted in principle' but HRM staff interpret the phrase to mean whatever they want it to mean.
In 1960 a planning consultant recommended that all land from Dartmouth High to Windmill Road be retained as green space.

Interesting, but those lands down from Dartmouth High have never really been used as 'green space' for as long as I can remember. Until the wooded area west of the football field was cut down to build a bus terminal, the only people using that area were DHS students who wanted to smoke up. Below the terminal, the land was used for the Dartmouth arena until it burnt down in the 1970s, after which the Sportsplex was built. The location for this building was a used car lot and now a bank.

Normally, I would be all for the commons being used as public land, and if the planning consultant had been able to gain traction with council in 1960, then it could have been converted and used as such. In its current configuration, however, it is quite cut off from public lands and thus a park would seem silly and out of place on that corner lot. A building such as this proposal is actually the best use that I can imagine for this land, and could possible set the tone for more such developments on other vacant lots in the area.

Here are some pics from the Municipal Archives showing how the area appeared in the 1960s - 1980s:

http://gencat1.eloquent-systems.com/...81rn71rjnr.jpg

http://gencat1.eloquent-systems.com/...1g1uju9pb1.jpg

http://gencat1.eloquent-systems.com/...ltfi8hiiq1.jpg


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