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Is Union Station, Ferguson Alley, Old Chinatown etc. or the L.A. Plaza depicted in L.A. Noire? Edit: Actually I found this Youtube video but I 'd sure like to see some good screen captures. Pretty amazing what I've seen so far. Thanks for posting the stills. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdf1pg9MHT8 The L.A. Plaza is there but it looks like L.A. Noire didn't feel moved to include the Lugo House or the Dragon's Den in any detail. Probably no Jerry's Joint either. http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/1...china11949.jpg http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...7s#post5130242 Maybe they'll be included later. Here's a video showing the L.A. Noire featured landmarks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq7HnsRftYM Pico Hotel and the L.A. Plaza - "El Pueblo de Los Angeles" featured landmark: http://static.gamesradar.com/images/...icle_image.jpg http://www.gamesradar.com/la-noire-f...-guide/?page=8 |
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From your earlier post, p 139: http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4150/...2e1f754b_b.jpg A photo from page 325 of this thread seems particularly appropos: http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085733.jpg "Looking west from the south side of the 6600 block of Sunset Boulevard in Hollywood. There is a fluoroscope business, where a $2 complete x-ray fluroscopic [sic] examination lets you "see your own organs with your own eyes" and the House of Westmore (6638 Sunset Boulevard), a beauty salon owned by the Westmore family of makeup fame. The sign for Wolf's Market can be seen in the background. Circa 1940." and from page 28 of this thread (GW!): http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/2...nicablvdlo.jpg |
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That is a powerful photo westcork.
The scene is reminiscent of Nathanael West's 'The Day of the Locust'. http://imageshack.us/a/img805/5466/a...tricksmerc.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/6535985...8115/lightbox/ ___ |
An apothecary in Los Angeles 1910s.
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Figueroa Street, downtown Los Angeles 1977.
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Armed with a large print of one and only clear photo of MI (from the Hollywood Historic Photos site) we drove to several spots along Cahuenga West, trying to match the profile of the hills in that photo to what is seen today. Unfortunately, the exercise was inconclusive. Tree growth now hides the lines of the hills, and buildings and other construction make it hard to match the perspective and sight lines of the original pic. We could only agree that MI might have been at the South of Mulholland location, and might have been just South of the Hanna Barbera building, where there is now a small park (with no visible remains of MI). The more I think about it, the less likely it seems that the street numbers were changed. I'll go back and study the aerial you mention; that indeed may a good clue. I'll also re-visit the park site, and study the hills more closely. Maybe I can try to sketch the hill profile, mentally erasing the trees from it. While it's hard to be certain without more evidence, I feel 90% sure that the site of Monkey Island is now El Paseo De Cahuenga Park, at 3300 Cahuenga Blvd. West (the same address as MI), just North of Barham. There is small plaque on the grounds; a memorial to the 9-11 fire fighters. Parts of MI may also have been on the the current H-B property. http://wwww.dkse.net/david/Cahuenga/...huengaPark.jpg http://maps.google.com/maps |
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"While the address of Monkey island read 3300 Cahuenga Blvd. the actual address is now a public park with no indication that monkey island existed. There are some interesting foundations just on the other side of the freeway. This closely matched the description of Monkey Island. Its a prime place and ... who knows... the numbering of the streets may have very well changed in the past 80 years. This may simply be the remains of the estate that once was at the corner of Barham and Cahuenga. The interesting thing is that it has a mock hill and a little cave and about a 150 foot foundation. This is a photo of the new Hollywood freeway going thru the Cahuenga pass. (note that creepy bathhouse-esque FANSCAPE building is at the corner of Barham and Cahuenga. its still there. Who knew it was that old!) The red "circle" is the address of Monkey Island and the green "circle" is where I found the mystery foundation on the other side of the freeway. This foundation is inside the fenceline of universal studios. It is not a set. it is clearly the foundation for an outdoor plaza of some sort. There was an estate here at one point but I have yet to find pictures of it. http://bp0.blogger.com/_sjtTyIA4eMI/...0/IMG_3988.JPG http://bp3.blogger.com/_sjtTyIA4eMI/...key+island.jpg The only picture I have located with the estate partially visible is : http://bp0.blogger.com/_sjtTyIA4eMI/...barham.JPG.jpg ". . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . " "Monkey Island This unusual amusement was located at 3300 Cahuenga Boulevard, on the Valley side of Cahuenga Pass—the Times usually described it as on Ventura Boulevard. Operated by Adolph Weiss, Monkey Island opened December 9, 1938. A large herd of monkeys, numbering in the hundreds, roamed over an "island" about 150 feet long, with a 40-foot plastic mountain, surrounded by moats and covered with netting. There were palm trees, swings and billy oats for the monkeys to amuse themselves, and waterfalls where they could keep cool. Visitors paid to come in and watch the monkeys and feed them peanuts and vegetables. When the moats were drained in August, 1940, about 100 monkeys fled. Weiss calmly told police "they'll be back," and most apparently did return at feeding time. Escapes were common. Filmaker Warren Miller recalls monkey island: "I had come to visit a new tourist attraction that was built right near the first Valley stop on The Pacific Electric Railroad, the route of the Big Red Cars. Some investor had built a 40-foot-high, fake plaster and cement mountain and surrounded it with a 20-foot-wide moat of slimy, green, stagnant water. The attraction was 100 undernourished, morose monkeys sitting on the concrete mountain watching you watching them. For 10 cents, you could watch the monkeys. For another five cents, you could buy a bag of peanuts and throw them to the monkeys." When Monkey Island closed is unknown. It is now a city park. " http://walmart666.blogspot.com/2007/...ey-island.html |
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I would venture to guess there are a lot of reasons for the architectural style changes, but in this case I believe the remodel occurred much earlier then the 1990s and it may have been incremental. I am no fan of the latest look, but the simple bread-box exterior would have been less expensive to accomplish than a lot of ginger bread which might have dated the place before its time. I would be curious to know whether the original store (1927?) was air conditioned and whether it was originally equipped with industrial "fluorescent" lighting, or more likely, when those things were added. That would have drastically altered the thinking respecting all of the windows. Notice, for example, the Drive-in facade on the 1950s North Hollywood Store. http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2660/5...7fd609aa_b.jpghttp://www.flickr.com/photos/6535985...6593/lightbox/ Shame more buildings like the Westwood Sears aren't around. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5239/5...7fa1e569_b.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/6535985...8081/lightbox/ Could you order a DC3 from the Sears Catalog?: http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3452/5...19e4147c_b.jpghttp://www.flickr.com/photos/6535985...4980/lightbox/ :haha: |
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The green circled area on the East side of the pass doesn't seem to match the photo but also, it is on a fairly steep slope. I don't see how it would have supported visitor parking. The little map on the matchbook is a good clue, but that's confusing too because Cahuenga was changed so many times. In the very early days it skirted the west side of the pass, becoming Ventura Blvd. somewhere near Monkey Island. (The older roadway would have been to the left of the red circle.) The matchbook map shows MI east of the roadway. In today's world this would definitely put Monkey Island in the green area, but in 1938 (and remember, this place was only there for about 2 years), with the roadway on the west edge of the pass, both the red and the green areas would agree with the map. Definitely tricky! I might check an old plat book downtown some day, if I can access it -- that would confirm the location for sure. |
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A very nice house located at 2203 Rogers Avenue at Chicago Street. Winter 1903-04.
http://imageshack.us/a/img29/8026/aa...ersaveatch.jpg found on ebay http://imageshack.us/a/img19/2627/aa...eravenuelo.jpg ebay http://imageshack.us/a/img214/374/aa...ersaveporc.jpg ebay http://imageshack.us/a/img851/8026/a...ersaveatch.jpg reverse side of first photo |
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I found this 'mystery' photo on an old cd of mine. pls. scan right---> http://imageshack.us/a/img844/1295/a...eldmystery.jpg I can't remember/maybe ebay I never knew where this was located until I recalled fhammon's post on the Heinz 57 sign overlooking Baldwin Village. Does anyone recognize this 'monument/sculpture' to Richfield Oil ? It seems to be placed in an empty field....a defunct oil field perhaps? The 'base' looks like it could be temporary...especially where it meets the grass on the right hand side. The material looks rather cheap and the seams are shoddy (again on the right hand side). ___ Another connection to the 'mystery' photograph is the sculptor Finn Haakon Frolich. I came across this photo during my recent research on Frolich's 'Jack London' House located on the dead-end La Vista Court. Sure enough, it's the same sculpture! http://imageshack.us/a/img41/7949/aa57ritch1larger.jpg http://paradiseleased.wordpress.com/...-to-hollywood/ below: Here's a smaller view of the 'mystery' photo. http://imageshack.us/a/img844/8961/aa57smallerview.jpg unknown http://imageshack.us/a/img15/9093/aa...dposterhub.jpg http://speedwayposters.amazonwebstor...B0019J8FJE.htm __ |
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That's a nice looking Craftsman but it can't be too much older than the Victorian. 20 years max. maybe. Seems a shame since in the photo, the featured house looks brand new without even proper landscaping yet. The people were obviously proud of it. http://i47.tinypic.com/24msrhz.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img29/8026/aa...ersaveatch.jpg ETA. I just noticed the vacant lot next to the Victorian between the two houses in the photo. The Craftsman could have been built at any time after they became fashionable. |
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