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Steely Dan Feb 23, 2006 4:09 AM

CHICAGO | Aqua | 858 FT / 262 M | 87 FLOORS
 
here's some preliminary stuff on Aqua, the new centerpiece tower for the lakeshore east mega-development. current info says it'll stand 835'/83 stories tall. the project is being designed by the highly esteemed firm of Studio Gang Architects, this would be their first foray into the skyscraper world. hell of an entrance, i'd say!

here's are our first glimpses of what promises to be yet another stellar addition to the chicago skyline. pics courtesy of kingofdurians from SSC.

somewhere in this strange and wonderful universe of ours, betrand goldberg is smiling.

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/9...resizedaw8.jpg


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http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1300/aqua6ne.jpg

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http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/3060/aqua67ad.jpghttp://img119.imageshack.us/img119/6717/aqua56xf.jpg

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volguus zildrohar Feb 23, 2006 4:12 AM

Did someone leave it in the oven too long? That's wacky.

Dolemite Feb 23, 2006 4:18 AM

It would look awesome with green/blue tinted glass.

SevenSevenThree Feb 23, 2006 4:18 AM

We've been begging for anything on this project and now thhis guy comes and delivers like you wouldnt believe. And because these are just prelimenary, it makes me want the detailed hi res renderings even more. This building has HUGE potential. Chicago amazes me!!

SevenSevenThree Feb 23, 2006 4:20 AM

Double post. Delete.

spyguy Feb 23, 2006 4:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dolemite
It would look awesome with green/blue tinted glass.


Most likely will as it is called "Aqua" and everything in the complex so far is blue or green. Remember that this is a model and not completely correct as height and floors are going to change.


Anyway, I love this project. Came out much more differently than I originally imagined.

This is why smaller firms like Studio Gang should be given larger projects to work on.

Dolemite Feb 23, 2006 4:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spyguy
Most likely will as it is called "Aqua" and everything in the complex so far is blue or green. Remember that this is a model and not completely correct as height and floors are going to change.


Anyway, I love this project. Came out much more differently than I originally imagined.


That is why I said it would look so good in that color ;)

You know the green/blue color of the old-fashioned Coke glasses? :tup:

gvpeto Feb 23, 2006 4:27 AM

Call me a hater, but i had higher hopes for this one. It's just too....Marina-City. Thats been done...I was hoping for something super-sexy and glassy. *sigh*

Steely Dan Feb 23, 2006 4:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by volguus zildrohar
Did someone leave it in the oven too long? That's wacky.

keep in mind that the images we have so far are wicked-preliminary. this project holds amazing promise and will most likely go through all the neccessary refinements under the skillful hand of Studio Gang Architects.

Steely Dan Feb 23, 2006 4:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gvpeto
Call me a hater, but i had higher hopes for this one. It's just too....Marina-City. Thats been done...I was hoping for something super-sexy and glassy. *sigh*

you're already a "hater" going off of some preliminary cardboard model?

"holy rush to judgement, batman!"

Dolemite Feb 23, 2006 4:29 AM

I like the 'waves', but it looks too much like Water Tower Place.

emoney Feb 23, 2006 4:31 AM

I am just about as excited about this project as FS and of course cant wait for more pictures and info

gvpeto Feb 23, 2006 4:33 AM

You have a point Steely. I'll keep an open mind! After all, it is almost 900 feet!

Steely Dan Feb 23, 2006 4:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dolemite
I like the 'waves', but it looks too much like Water Tower Place.

this project ain't gonna look anything like water tower place. i have no idea where you're getting that from.

spyguy Feb 23, 2006 4:33 AM

Water Tower Place?

I'm afraid I don't understand that one except for the fact that they are both tall, and from far away Aqua looks like a normal box.

Chi_Coruscant Feb 23, 2006 4:39 AM

We are so lucky to have Ms. Jeanne Gang and her Studio team as part of Chicago architecture world. :cheers:

Hoodrat Feb 23, 2006 5:39 AM

now that's a curtain wall!

cool tower, imo

bayrider Feb 23, 2006 5:46 AM

So far the design is so-so... but i'll save judgement until we have some more detailed renderings with glass & color. I see potential though.

The most improtant thing is that CHICAGO HAS ANOTHER SUPERTALL IN THE WORKS!!!!
Chicago must be on steroids or something. The buildings that are going up now and are planned to be built this year can compete with the skyline of most other cities in the world!

Mojava Feb 23, 2006 5:48 AM

who is the developer? Megellan?

James Bond Agent 007 Feb 23, 2006 6:45 AM

What does it mean? :???:

Wild Onion Mike Feb 23, 2006 7:22 AM

This has soooo much promise. Kinda reminds me of a jigglin' obelisk of jello. You can almost see it shimmy. :banana:

I agree with you Steely Dan, this is going to look nothing like Watertower Place. There has way more kineticism in this design.

BTW, we are soooo spoiled, ...................but it feels great!!!!!:notacrook:

Rivernorth Feb 23, 2006 7:27 AM

wow... just wow!

fantastic design! chicago is really kicking some serious arse here! i would rather the tower be glass and steel, but for once, concrete actually looks good. i cant wait for a more detailed design!

Dan in Chicago Feb 23, 2006 7:29 AM

I'm not disappointed at all. There's a lot of potential in that model. As long as it isn't that dull cardboard color it will look fantastic. It reminds me a little bit of The Wave, currently under construction in Gold Coast City, Australia:

http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=208619

I'm not sure I like the interruption 2/3 of the way up, but I'd have to see a better rendering.

HK Chicago Feb 23, 2006 11:17 AM

^ I like the interruptions (there's another near floor 20) - it's the only hint of structure the form provides. And it complements the crown nicely.

I like the approach, of course the devil is in the details that we haven't seen yet. This does have the potential to look kinda [flamesuit]dumb[/flamesuit]. It could end up looking like a futuristic blob of parts (think 1st freedom tower, valencia towers, the wave, etc)... yet I'm sure the renderings will look stellar and this will come out a winner.

Hope this one breaks 900', it would fill in the gap at 900' on the boom rundown lists.

lakegz Feb 23, 2006 12:48 PM

i gotta see it with its supposed color, it looks pretty bad in those models however. They better get the coloring just perfect

rgolch Feb 23, 2006 3:10 PM

I was hoping for a more expressive crown. Again, I understand these models are extremely preliminary.

Thank god for the waves, otherwise this would really be a boring box. Tall and thin is nice when its not too wide (e.g. Hotel intercontinnental proposal), but its width now (I presume the North/south faces) remind of dated designs.

I think all of us were highly anticipating this one, so I understand that it probably would never live up to my expectation. I anxiously await more detailed renderings.

emoney Feb 23, 2006 3:14 PM

It reminds me of 50 Biscayne, and before you say it is nothing alike or what the hell? I mean while it doesnt have the wave glass curtain the columns sort of are wavey in the same asymmetrical way. The building the wave seems more like a twist to me. The part that I like about this tower is that it is not symetrical that it has this flow. Really amazing (I have no idea how you architect people do that crap, but I love you for it).

rds989 Feb 23, 2006 3:23 PM

I think it looks stunning. With a name like "Aqua" I was fearing some sort of wavey Arquitechtonica-esque cr*p (I hate that firm). But this is innovative and has movement without breaking too radically with Chicago's overall buttoned-down structural look.

How expensive will it be to have such a randomly different form for each floor! And wouldn't it be a little annoying not to be able to look directly down from your condo (I assume the extrusions don't have any balcony function)?

emoney Feb 23, 2006 3:32 PM

Here is the link to 50 Biscayne

http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=204607

Steely Dan Feb 23, 2006 3:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rds989
And wouldn't it be a little annoying not to be able to look directly down from your condo (I assume the extrusions don't have any balcony function)?

i'm quite certain that the wavy concrete extrusions will be used for balconies. in fact, i would be SHOCKED if they weren't. balconies are a huge selling point for condos so what reason would they possibly have for not using that space for balconies?

JACKinBeantown Feb 23, 2006 4:55 PM

I like it.

Tom In Chicago Feb 23, 2006 5:51 PM

It's too early to tell. . . jury is still out on this one. . . my first impression is back to the drawing board!!!

BANKofMANHATTAN Feb 23, 2006 6:07 PM

:sly: it looks....dented...kinda...watery.

kinda meh for 900' though.

however, it'll probably look better with some bluish green glass action.

SevenSevenThree Feb 23, 2006 6:51 PM

Some of you have to use your imaginations. Just picture some type of blueish-green type deal with the glass. I know all thats provided is a cardboard model but the good thing about us humans we have the capability of imagination. If there are balconies, I hope that theyre recessed to not disrupt the wavy texture of the building. I didnt set my expectations stratospherically high so Im pleasently surprised and satisfied. Like I said before expect refinements. I think the glass work will be beautiful, with its wavy texture (that be a bitch for some glass company) and the color and how it plays with the sunlight, it should great. It wont look like any thing else in the city and it continues the march to put Chicago back in front of the game of modern architecture. We have a diamond in the rough, now we just have to shine the bitch up all nice and pretty. Its a winner.

Now, I didnt wanna do this but remember we couldve had the "L" person. :gaah:

mind field Feb 23, 2006 7:00 PM

To go with the Aqua theme, it would be really different if there was a huge fountain on the roof of this tower, lighted at night, that would serve as it's aqautic spire. It would animate the building like no other in the world, yet I know that idea will be an unrealized fantasy. The expense of pumping that volume of water 900 ft. up would probably be prohibitive.

Adam186 Feb 23, 2006 7:03 PM

After looking at the prelim floorplans for the building, I'm going to agree with Steely that it does indeed have balconies on the wave. They are recessed for a little bit (looks like a recess of 1 to 3 feet from the edge). You can even see the slide glass doors in the lay out. The curvey exterior will NOT be covered in glass.

SevenSevenThree Feb 23, 2006 7:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mind field
To go with the Aqua theme, it would be really different if there was a huge fountain on the roof of this tower, lighted at night, that would serve as it's aqautic spire. It would animate the building like no other in the world, yet I know that idea will be an unrealized fantasy. The expense of pumping that volume of water 900 ft. up would probably be prohibitive.

Or if we're going there how about instead of a fountain a water, you see how the top is pretty much a block, turn that into a glass block filled with water with light shining from under it at night. And during different times of the year, they change its color according to the holiday. That watery effect lighting up the night sky could come out extremely magnificent. I believe with the effect that light has on water, it would be different and classy, so NO fish request people.

Steely Dan Feb 23, 2006 7:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam186
After looking at the prelim floorplans for the building, I'm going to agree with Steely that it does indeed have balconies on the wave. They are recessed for a little bit (looks like a recess of 1 to 3 feet from the edge). You can even see the slide glass doors in the lay out. The curvey exterior will NOT be covered in glass.

correct. the glass will not be following the curving concrete floorplate extrusions on the outside of the building, rather it will sit recessed into the structure. the balconies will be integral with the wavy concrete floorplate extrusions.

SevenSevenThree Feb 23, 2006 7:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam186
After looking at the prelim floorplans for the building, I'm going to agree with Steely that it does indeed have balconies on the wave. They are recessed for a little bit (looks like a recess of 1 to 3 feet from the edge). You can even see the slide glass doors in the lay out. The curvey exterior will NOT be covered in glass.

Then if its not covered in glass then why waste the design because you wont be able to appreciate it. And if the balconies are recessed you could still have the glass follow the curves of the building elsewhere. Im sure the building isnt going to be littered with balconies. I feel It would be such a complete waste of a great design if you couldnt appreciate its curvy texture from the exterior (outside).

Steely Dan Feb 23, 2006 7:17 PM

^ you will appreciate the wavy texture from the outside, thanks to the floorplate extrusions. think of it this way, this is simply a completely orthagonal glass box skyscraper with the concrete floorplates extruded beyon the perimeter wall to create all these wavy forms. the balconies for the various units will be directly on these floorplate extrusions. the building will be littered with baclonies; curving, waving bands of them that wrap compeltely around each floor level, to be more precise.

SevenSevenThree Feb 23, 2006 7:22 PM

No, STOP, I dont wanna hear anymore. My bubble is getting bursts and I cant take it. It would so cool to have the glass follow the wavy texture (quickly becoming an overused term :)) and Im gonna still hold on to the belief that thats what Jeanne will do. Allow me to live in ignorance, please. I hope its a surprise at the end with the detailed renderings.

Damn you two, Steely and Adam!! Although looking at the second set of flooplans I see something different but what do I know.

slacker9 Feb 23, 2006 7:24 PM

I dont post here often, cause I dont really have anything to say that would be constructive or bring any benefit to the thread, but I dig this building...

And, what is going on construction/proposal wise in this city is ridiculous...I cant wait to watch things grow in a couple years...

We may see that I-Robot skyline someday after all!!

Steely Dan Feb 23, 2006 7:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SevenSevenThree
No, STOP, I dont wanna hear anymore. My bubble is getting bursts and I cant take it. It would so cool to have the glass follow the wavy texture (quickly becoming an overused term :)) and Im gonna still hold on to the belief that thats what Jeanne will do. Allow me to live in ignorance, please. I hope its a surprise at the end with the detailed renderings.

well, if that's what you're hoping to be surprised with, you'll be sadly disappointed. however, the building is actually much better the way it is being designed than the way you're hoping it will turn out. if the glass curtain wall was to be brought out to the undulating edges of this building, it would veer towards the "blobbish" (along with being absurdly and prohibitively expensive). with the clearly articulated floor plates/balconies extruded beyond the perimeter wall of the glass box we have something that comes close to what an IBM/'marina city love child might look like.

this proposal is all chicago and it's all awesome.

move over fordham spire, i have a new favorite chicago skyscraper proposal to look forward to. my only lament thus far is that this stunner won't sit directly on the river. oh well, i suppose you can't have it all ;).

SevenSevenThree Feb 23, 2006 7:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steely Dan
well, if that's what you're hoping to be surprised with, you'll be sadly disappointed. however, the building is actually much better the way it is being designed than the way you're hoping it will turn out. if the glass curtain wall was to be brought out to the undulating edges of this building, it would veer towards the "blobbish" (along with being absurdly and prohibitively expensive). with the clearly articulated floor plates/balconies extruded beyond the perimeter wall of the glass box we have something that comes close to what a IBM/'marina city love child might look like.

this proposal is all chicago and it's all awesome.

move over fordham spire, i have a new favorite chicago skyscraper proposal to look forward to.

No, I hear what youre saying and Im hugely confident this will turn out awesome either way because they know what theyre doing and I dont but it was just a wish. This is my baby now and I want the best. Move the hell over BVic and Waterwho? and Fordham can kiss my ass, hes taking too long but as soon things take off there I'll be on the bandwagon again but until then AQUA is mine and forever.

Im just excited about where my second home is heading in architecture. OMG, can you imagine if it sat on the river?

SevenSevenThree Feb 23, 2006 8:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SevenSevenThree
Or if we're going there how about instead of a fountain a water, you see how the top is pretty much a block, turn that into a glass block filled with water with light shining from under it at night. And during different times of the year, they change its color according to the holiday. That watery effect lighting up the night sky could come out extremely magnificent. I believe with the effect that light has on water, it would be different and classy, so NO fish request people.

What about my crown proposal? No takers. I think if done right it would be so cool. :cool:

BVictor1 Feb 23, 2006 8:14 PM

I've just seen a rendering of the building and it looks exactly like the model. I can't give you the color of the tower though because I don't know. The rendering that I saw was at dusk. BUt the height that I got from the documentation that I saw was 835' 4".

Steely Dan Feb 23, 2006 8:15 PM

^ excellent work victor. thanks for the height info.

SevenSevenThree Feb 23, 2006 8:20 PM

Still a nice heightand it makes sense but its gonna be the design that carries this beauty. Okay, I must stop posting now. Out of the 50 responses, 20 are mine. Im just so excited. Sorry.

Adam186 Feb 23, 2006 8:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SevenSevenThree
Still a nice heightand it makes sense but its gonna be the design that carries this beauty. Okay, I must stop posting now. Out of the 50 responses, 20 are mine. Im just so excited. Sorry.

No need to be sorry. Keep on posting man. We do have something in common, 773, we are both passionate about this building and we both plan on moving into it. I'll see you there man.:cheers: :tup:

2PRUROCKS! Feb 23, 2006 8:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steely Dan
we have something that comes close to what an IBM/'marina city love child might look like.


^This was exactly my initial thought. Also the balconies must have some sort of protective railing or barrier. My guess is, is that this barrier would most likely be glass similar to 600 N. Faibanks. If this balcony glass is a different shade or color from the building glass (lets say one is more greenish and one is more blueish) I think the effect would be quite dramatic and really give the building the appearence of having waves in motion.


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