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Dominion301 Jul 22, 2021 2:42 PM

Hopefully the USA's 5th wave is over by September. They had over 56,500 cases yesterday. The 7 day moving average is up 350% there in the past month and rising fast!

casper Jul 22, 2021 3:48 PM

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Originally Posted by hollywoodcory (Post 9344103)
Your correct, thanks. Not sure where I got Victoria from. My bad.

Regina and Saskatoon would be the two others.

hehehe Jul 22, 2021 4:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 9347007)
Hopefully the USA's 5th wave is over by September. They had over 56,500 cases yesterday. The 7 day moving average is up 350% there in the past month and rising fast!

Looks like you were right! There was another wave :D

thenoflyzone Jul 22, 2021 7:00 PM

Have any US carriers announced service resumptions to either YOW, YQB, YEG, YWG or YHZ?

thenoflyzone Jul 22, 2021 7:50 PM

Flair should be announcing new Mexico service shortly, or have they already?

https://www.otc-cta.gc.ca/eng/ruling/2021-a-17

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The applicant has applied to the Agency for a licence to operate an international air service on a scheduled basis between Canada and Mexico.
The applicant intends to commence operations in November 2021.

hollywoodcory Jul 22, 2021 9:07 PM

Looks like Condor re-added at least YYZ / YHZ for September-Early November. Not sure about YVR or YYC.

AA / UA both put out announcements regarding the news Americans can enter, but didn't really announce any additional flights, though someone mentioned UA possibly adding extra flights to YYZ and YVR (but not sure if true).

I also noticed DEN-YYC got upped to mainline in September too. (It's currently on a CR7).

JakeLRS Jul 22, 2021 9:58 PM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 9347473)
Flair should be announcing new Mexico service shortly, or have they already?

https://www.otc-cta.gc.ca/eng/ruling/2021-a-17

They haven't announced Mexico yet. I really wonder how much capacity the large airports have on Mexico routes already though...

YYZ already has Transat, Sunwing, Westjet, Swoop, and Air Canada with flights to Mexico.

I'd assume they would target smaller airports (similar to Sunwing) like Kitchener-Waterloo for Mexico routes. Time will tell.

Nonetheless, very exciting to see all this competition!

hollywoodcory Jul 22, 2021 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeLRS (Post 9347637)
They haven't announced Mexico yet. I really wonder how much capacity the large airports have on Mexico routes already though...

YYZ already has Transat, Sunwing, Westjet, Swoop, and Air Canada with flights to Mexico.

I'd assume they would target smaller airports (similar to Sunwing) like Kitchener-Waterloo for Mexico routes. Time will tell.

Nonetheless, very exciting to see all this competition!

Some of the big airports all have widebody service to Mexico this winter, on top of the various narrowbody flights.

AC has 77W's planned on YYZ-CUN and I believe YUL-CUN is a 333.
WS has 789s planned on YYZ-CUN & YYC-CUN/PVR

I don't think Sunwing has announced their plans for Western Canada yet? But that is already a lot of capacity on those routes.

hollywoodcory Jul 23, 2021 1:22 AM

Maybe 2nd times the charm? Sound like WS/DL are planning to re-submit their JV.

https://aviationweek.com/air-transpo...jv-application

thenoflyzone Jul 23, 2021 8:48 PM

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Originally Posted by hollywoodcory (Post 9347808)
Maybe 2nd times the charm? Sound like WS/DL are planning to re-submit their JV.

https://aviationweek.com/air-transpo...jv-application

Good luck. With the Democrats in power, they will probably wish they had accepted the terms of their previous JV attempt.

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Originally Posted by hollywoodcory (Post 9347667)
Some of the big airports all have widebody service to Mexico this winter, on top of the various narrowbody flights.

AC has 77W's planned on YYZ-CUN and I believe YUL-CUN is a 333.
WS has 789s planned on YYZ-CUN & YYC-CUN/PVR

I don't think Sunwing has announced their plans for Western Canada yet? But that is already a lot of capacity on those routes.

It's still nothing compared to 2019.

whatnext Jul 23, 2021 10:48 PM

How YVR is going to be handling vaccinated vs unvaccinated travellers:

YVR arrivals terminal splits passengers by COVID-19 vaccination status
BY DENISE WONG AND BAILEY NICHOLSON
Posted Jul 23, 2021

VANCOUVER (NEWS 1130) – If you’re flying into YVR from outside of Canada, you’ll notice some separation inside the airport. There is now one line for passengers who are fully vaccinated against COVID-19 and another for unvaccinated travellers.

Robyn McVicker, vice president of Passenger Journey at YVR, says dividing passengers this way helps determine the next steps upon arrival.

“For vaccinated passengers, if they meet the criteria of having had a Canadian-approved vaccine, at least 14 days prior to travel, then they don’t have to do the two weeks of quarantine upon arrival into Canada. Additionally, there’s no longer a government-approved hotel that they have to stay at,” she explained.

If you aren’t fully vaccinated, you’ll need to set up 14-day quarantine plans with airport staff. People who only have one dose will be considered unvaccinated....


https://www.citynews1130.com/2021/07...cination-line/

Dominion301 Jul 24, 2021 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeLRS (Post 9347637)
They haven't announced Mexico yet. I really wonder how much capacity the large airports have on Mexico routes already though...

YYZ already has Transat, Sunwing, Westjet, Swoop, and Air Canada with flights to Mexico.

I'd assume they would target smaller airports (similar to Sunwing) like Kitchener-Waterloo for Mexico routes. Time will tell.

Nonetheless, very exciting to see all this competition!

I would imagine any Mexico announcements will somewhat mimic the transborder announcement. So yeah YKF, YOW almost certainly, which will have a good 35% less capacity than winter 2019-20, will feature prominently.

thenoflyzone Jul 24, 2021 1:34 PM

https://twitter.com/theaeronetwork/s...98369655459840

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Condor this week re-opened reservation for flights to Canada in summer 2021 season, including:

* Frankfurt – Toronto
eff 07SEP21 3 weekly

* Frankfurt – Halifax
eff 09SEP21 2 weekly

Service scheduled until early-November 2021

Dominion301 Jul 25, 2021 4:45 PM

A bit of jealousy coming out of Kelowna that YQB is authorized international flights, yet YLW isn't.

https://www.kelownadailycourier.ca/n...5e68e927e.html

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Kelowna-Lake Country Conservative MP Tracy Gray, whose riding includes YLW, said the federal government has not clearly explained why Quebec's airport can restart international flights while only domestic connections remain in the offing for Kelowna.

"The federal government's announcement did not explain the rationale for the airports they chose to resume international air service, nor what specific data or metrics they are using for their plans on adding additional airports," Gray said in an email.

"This is unfortunate, however, it's consistent with how we've seen this government operate," she said. "It's difficult for all our local organizations involved, ranging from the airport and their operations to car rental, shuttle, taxi services, and tourism operators, when there are continually no clear plans discussed."
It's easier to complain than to take 5 minutes to figure out that pre-pandemic, YQB easily handled 5 times the international pax traffic of YLW, including with transatlantic service.

Same complaints out of Saskatchewan: https://globalnews.ca/news/8047673/i...ewan-airports/

Again YQB's international pax counts are significantly higher than those two in 'normal' times.

hehehe Jul 25, 2021 9:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 9349600)
A bit of jealousy coming out of Kelowna that YQB is authorized international flights, yet YLW isn't.

https://www.kelownadailycourier.ca/n...5e68e927e.html



It's easier to complain than to take 5 minutes to figure out that pre-pandemic, YQB easily handled 5 times the international pax traffic of YLW, including with transatlantic service.

Same complaints out of Saskatchewan: https://globalnews.ca/news/8047673/i...ewan-airports/

Again YQB's international pax counts are significantly higher than those two in 'normal' times.

I was thinking exactly the same. What does YLW even have, an Alaska flight to SEA and a couple of flights in the winter to the south? Saskatchewan has even less...
YQB has a CDG, ORD, and an EWR flight. That being said, hopefully the pandemic ends soon and other airports can accomodate international flights as well.

thenoflyzone Jul 25, 2021 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 9349600)
A bit of jealousy coming out of Kelowna that YQB is authorized international flights, yet YLW isn't.

indeed. YLW might handle more overall passengers than YQB (2M vs 1.7M in 2019), but those passengers are pretty much all domestic in nature. YQB's international passenger count vastly surpasses that of YLW.

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Originally Posted by hehehe (Post 9349799)
I was thinking exactly the same. What does YLW even have, an Alaska flight to SEA and a couple of flights in the winter to the south? Saskatchewan has even less...
YQB has a CDG, ORD, and an EWR flight. That being said, hopefully the pandemic ends soon and other airports can accomodate international flights as well.

YQB also had AA Eagle to PHL in 2019, and the numerous sun routes by TS, WG - and recently AC - as well. Wouldn't be surprised if DL eventually returns its long standing DTW-YQB service as well.

YLW, by comparison, is irrelevant on the international scene.

Dominion301 Jul 25, 2021 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by hehehe (Post 9349799)
I was thinking exactly the same. What does YLW even have, an Alaska flight to SEA and a couple of flights in the winter to the south? Saskatchewan has even less...
YQB has a CDG, ORD, and an EWR flight. That being said, hopefully the pandemic ends soon and other airports can accomodate international flights as well.

YLW also has LAS and YQR & YXE I believe had PHX too with probably 2x as much sun flying as YLW each. However, all 3 airports combined wouldn't even equal YQB's non-domestic traffic.

Denscity Jul 25, 2021 11:12 PM

Love all the fire centre action every day at YCG. Great variety of planes including the Electra and lots of amazing helicopters.

hollywoodcory Jul 26, 2021 4:19 PM

https://news.delta.com/delta-doubles...s-us-travelers

DL has announced a 150% increase in flying to Canada in September, including the resumption of service to YWG.

On another note, I like how all of the big 3 US airlines used photos of Moraine Lake for their announcements. Travel Alberta really getting that exposure.

casper Jul 26, 2021 6:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 9349867)
YLW also has LAS and YQR & YXE I believe had PHX too with probably 2x as much sun flying as YLW each. However, all 3 airports combined wouldn't even equal YQB's non-domestic traffic.

Until the pandemic YXE would also have twice daily service to MSP with Delta. The service started with Northwest decades ago. It would normally be a Embrear or larger CRJ with a First/Economy section during most of the year. However during hunting season would up upgraded to A320, or 757. WS had the LAS and PHX a few times a week. During the winter Airtransat and Sunwings would come in with flights to Mexico on 737 or A310.

YQR last Delta before the pandemic. However they had MSP going back years.


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