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sentinel Jan 30, 2022 12:33 AM

That Brookfield arena proposal looks like a bunch of napkins on a table

https://archive.is/Rj1h0/94c6e3924b5...893c074b6e.jpg:yuck:

eburress Jan 30, 2022 12:35 AM

^^ Seriously. What's even the point of creating renders like that? They're like concept art for a science fiction movie.

eburress Jan 30, 2022 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by sentinel (Post 9518750)
That Brookfield arena proposal looks like a bunch of napkins on a table

https://archive.is/Rj1h0/94c6e3924b5...893c074b6e.jpg:yuck:

Or a turtle, stuck on its back.

sentinel Jan 30, 2022 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by eburress (Post 9518753)
Or a turtle, stuck on its back.

Omg lol
Cannot unsee it now :haha:

SamFlood Jan 30, 2022 3:43 AM

San Diego(ans) needs to get over the fear of building big. Whether its housing or facilities.

JSW Jan 31, 2022 7:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sentinel (Post 9518750)
That Brookfield arena proposal looks like a bunch of napkins on a table

https://archive.is/Rj1h0/94c6e3924b5...893c074b6e.jpg:yuck:

Ok but guys... look at the inclusion of the pedestrian overpass crossing to let residents easily get across the 8! Thats huge. Forget the designs of the arena and housing... this is a proposal and those specifics will likely change dramatically. People need to rally around ideas that make this city more liveable because without more pedestrian friendly ideas like this, I cannot even imagine living in that area.

SamFlood Feb 1, 2022 4:59 AM

this city map has an updated satellite image


https://sandiego.maps.arcgis.com/app...d92ef22b5ff349


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...2b009c17_b.jpg

Nerv Feb 1, 2022 7:19 AM

Build any of them but the HometownSD plan. Tiny arena is a step backwards and defeats the purpose…

Streamliner Feb 1, 2022 4:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JSW (Post 9520329)
Ok but guys... look at the inclusion of the pedestrian overpass crossing to let residents easily get across the 8! Thats huge. Forget the designs of the arena and housing... this is a proposal and those specifics will likely change dramatically. People need to rally around ideas that make this city more liveable because without more pedestrian friendly ideas like this, I cannot even imagine living in that area.

It looks like the Neighborhood Next proposal also has an overpass. Based on the location, it looks like these would connect to the San Diego River Bikeway. If that's the case, and unless it's a required feature, I imagine that would be the first part of the design to fall victim to cost cutting measures. You'd be dealing with Caltrans ROW and likely waterway permitting due to the lack of space on the north side of the 8.

Streamliner Feb 1, 2022 5:06 PM

UC San Diego's Pepper Canyon West residential towers were approved and are now set for construction. They're 22/23 stories (~230-40 feet tall), right next to the university's Trolley station. They should make for a nice gateway to the campus. Renders from the environmental doc:

https://i.imgur.com/Ad6oPIp.png

https://i.imgur.com/4CJzUXZ.png

https://i.imgur.com/FnoEqmX.png

Steadfast Feb 2, 2022 12:46 AM

Fencing is going up around the parking lot at 8th & B. Looks like we can expect another big development to get underway soon. The area just south of Symphony Tower is going to be dramatically different in a couple of years...

SAN Man Feb 2, 2022 2:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Steadfast (Post 9521917)
Fencing is going up around the parking lot at 8th & B. Looks like we can expect another big development to get underway soon. The area just south of Symphony Tower is going to be dramatically different in a couple of years...

Oh wow, any information on the size and scope of the development?

B Street is turning into quite a nice canyon.

JSW Feb 2, 2022 6:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Steadfast (Post 9521917)
Fencing is going up around the parking lot at 8th & B. Looks like we can expect another big development to get underway soon. The area just south of Symphony Tower is going to be dramatically different in a couple of years...

8th & B is supposed to be 40 stories and will look like this according to permits filed:

https://webdocs.sandiego.gov/public/...es/8th_&_B.png

So yea, B street cluster is getting clustery..er.

homebucket Feb 2, 2022 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Streamliner (Post 9521270)
UC San Diego's Pepper Canyon West residential towers were approved and are now set for construction. They're 22/23 stories (~230-40 feet tall), right next to the university's Trolley station. They should make for a nice gateway to the campus. Renders from the environmental doc:

Not a big fan of those vertical stripes but the new housing is welcome and I like that it's next to the Trolley station.

Streamliner Feb 2, 2022 10:45 PM

Speaking of that corner, whatever happened to the second tower of The Rey? Did they just give up on it? I thought maybe it'd be a year behind the first, but it's been years now and I don't see anything.

JerellO Feb 3, 2022 8:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Streamliner (Post 9523109)
Speaking of that corner, whatever happened to the second tower of The Rey? Did they just give up on it? I thought maybe it'd be a year behind the first, but it's been years now and I don't see anything.

Honestly I’m completely fine if they don’t build the second tower, too many twin towers already in the city. I think they should sell it to someone else and have another developer build a different tower to add a better depth of density by having it be of different design and height

mello Feb 3, 2022 6:51 PM

I'm loving the prominent cluster that will form in that section of downtown around Symphony Towers. Too bad BOSA is being a punk and not building on the empty lot in front of Santa Fe station, I would much rather have that Pacific Gate semi Twin breaking ground over the one he is starting now. How about you guys :shrug:

SAN Man Feb 3, 2022 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Streamliner (Post 9523109)
Speaking of that corner, whatever happened to the second tower of The Rey? Did they just give up on it? I thought maybe it'd be a year behind the first, but it's been years now and I don't see anything.

I was disappointed with the overall height of The Rey. I'd like to see something a little taller on the remaining half of the block. But yeah, like you said, I can't believe that second half has sat empty for so long. In it's current state it's such an awkward feel with half of it going up Cortez Hill and the lower half a surface parking lot.

https://goo.gl/maps/FNLw9oNrtaS43hNv5

Streamliner Feb 5, 2022 4:37 PM

Interesting article in the U-T:

Court sides with San Diego developer: Certain housing projects are exempt from local restrictions
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...ensity-bonuses

Quote:

A court case involving a new apartment complex going up in Bankers Hill might have statewide implications for builders that include subsidized units in their projects.

A state appeals court ruled last month that the new luxury 525 Olive building overlooking Balboa Park was allowed to be 25 percent taller after it agreed to include 18 subsidized apartments for low-income residents. The ruling came as a result of community groups suing the project over its height.

The court took it a step further this week by certifying the ruling as precedent for all of California, at the insistence of the statewide California Building Industry Association and its Bay Area affiliate, as first reported by the San Francisco Chronicle.

For San Diego, the ruling might not be as noticeable as in the rest of the state. The city has aggressively pursued zoning changes and density bonuses for a decade during the building boom downtown. The ruling will likely now clear the way and speed up proposed projects that often face legal action, said Nathan Moeder, a San Diego housing analyst.

The California law that allows for extra height if subsidized units are included has been on the books since 1979. However, Moeder said it is frequently challenged in courts by neighborhoods that oppose taller buildings.

“It’s like saying: Can we all just save ourselves a step of a lawsuit and going through the appeal process for a year or two years,” he said. “Each time this comes up, the state can now say: This was already shot down. There’s precedent. You can’t sue for this reason.”

https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/d...ingphoto-3.jpg

JerellO Feb 6, 2022 8:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Streamliner (Post 9526107)
Interesting article in the U-T:

Court sides with San Diego developer: Certain housing projects are exempt from local restrictions
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...ensity-bonuses



https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/d...ingphoto-3.jpg

Thank the lord 🙄 my goodness… people need to chill… we’re not building the Empire State Building anywhere lol


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