Which makes the most sense.

Albeit in some ways, people look at the Ducks and the Angels as being in a separate OC market.

In any event, SD has a big fight on its hands to fill the void the Chargers are almost certainly going to leave. Could take years and a lot of watching to see who becomes unstable in their own market before anyone else arrives.

You bring up KC and Louisville as cities who already have downtown arenas that is great. First off Louisville is a tiny metro area compared to SD and like I said KC already has NFL and MLB that is why the NBA isn't interested in them.

Now the big difference is sex appeal. KC and Louisville yawn.... San Diego has way more sizzle than those places and is on its way to having one of the best downtowns in the country. Look at the huge Manchesterpacificgateway.com development about to break ground and the Seaport Village redevelopment. Do KC and Louisville have a water front? No. Do they have amazing downtowns with mega projects taking place? No.

San Diego is a major tourist destination with 5000 new hotel rooms in the pipeline in and around downtown. These are the reasons the NBA would look at it before adding a 3rd major pro sports team in KC or putting one in tiny Louisville.

Well, NBA is attracted to cities like Louisville with no other top tier pro sports competition where they can control the corporate support. Like Sacramento, Memphis, Portland, OKC, Salt Lake, San Antonio, Orlando.

The reason there isn't interest is because there isn't any overwhelmingly struggling franchises in the NBA at this time, but they have the arena built and ready to go, should someone slip up, or expansion come onto the agenda, San Diego does not at this moment in time.

I'm not sure how reliable this site is, it looks like some real estate site, but it's the most current thing I can find about the timeline of the Ritz project. It says:

There are a few more hurdles for the developer and the city but the projection for the finalization of the sale of the land by the city is scheduled for April 2018. Construction would then be completed by October 2021

http://www.buysellrentsandiego.com/r...ton-san-diego/

So over a year just for the city to sell the land? Why am I getting a feeling this project is going to be one of those that dangles out there forever but never materializes? Very depressing. Meanwhile, the hotel in the block right next to this that was supposed to start after the Ritz project is already fencing off the site. :(

SeaWorld announces new eel coaster for 2018
Lori Weisberg
January 3, 2017
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...103-story.html

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At 150 feet this will be the park's tallest coaster. Local residents had already been receiving notices of application for the new ride. I'm curious to see what kind of pushback there will be from nearby residents/Donna Frye considering the problems their Atlantis ride had back in the early 2000s.

More info from a letter from the City here (Source: Reddit)

Perhaps the city wants to make sure that any lawsuits against the project are dismissed or settled before the land gets sold. This is arguably downtown's biggest project since Petco Park and faces more hurdles than anything else under development right now (particularly from NIMBY's).

"Residents near Seaword"? No one resides within what 3/4 of a mile of Seaworld so screw them. So hilarious how Toronto and even Houston has 400 foot residential towers right behind single family neighborhoods. Or what about in Wilshire Corridor in LA where you have "Condo Canyon" right in the backyard of rich people's homes, yet in San Diego people who live miles away from an amusement park fret over a damn 150 ft. tall structure. God this town is so backwards.

Yep, Bay Park NIMBYs are gonna shart their collective pantaloons when they see this.

If the structure was pleasing on the eye then I don't think people would have a problem. But a rusted out journey to Atlantis ride or purple roller coaster is pretty unpleasing along our coast. I hope this fails, would rather see sea world as an aquarium park then a want to be knotts berry farm.

Who cares? It literally does not affect your life in any way.

I just think it looks ugly and so do most people evidently. I guess I can't have an opinion here unless it pro "build it all" Don't get me wrong, I'm for growth and lower housing prices along our coast but what good does a roller coaster do for sea world? I don't think it will re-brand them. Just make it seem like a commercialized aquarium.

That's exactly what they are, a commercialized aquarium. I appreciate their work that they do with wildlife, but they definitely need to find new ways to attract more visitors to their park. I don't think a roller coaster a mile from the coast is going to have any negative impact on the coastline.

No but it is the entrance to the cities beaches. When ever I'm driving out of town friends to the beach they always ask "what is that hideous building" speaking of journey to Atlantis. I won't cry or even fight a new roller coaster, just stating my opinion that the SD river bike path, mission bay park, dana landing, ect are some of the most beautiful places in so cal and a roller coaster kinda takes away from that.

I guess I just would rather see Sea World as I did before Bud Light bought them

Fair enough! :cheers:

There's a roller coaster at Belmont park, a roller coaster on the Santa Monica pier and now this which isn't even that close to the beach... I think it'll be fine.

It is ugly. We are all entitled to our opinions on the aesthetics of proposed developments, and I think this one looks like garbage. I'm not really confident in the future of SeaWorld in general. They are phasing out the orca shows and don't really seem to have a cohesive vision of what they will be in the future. Do they want to be a center of education and science or an amusement park? They seem to be going with straddling between the two which I'm not sure will be ultimately successful but I guess time will tell. I just don't see this mediocre carnival ride being enough to save them.

Some construction activity on the right.

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Pink and Blue by Larisa Voronina, on Flickr

That's the gateway project right? I might be confusing myself. Or is it on the other side of downtown and not by the stadium?