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SDfan Jul 12, 2014 11:24 PM


Originally Posted by nezbn22 (Post 6651369)


Leo the Dog Jul 13, 2014 4:59 AM


Originally Posted by mello (Post 6652152)
When are coastal mayors going to band together to seriously try to do something about the Coastal commission? How many tens of thousands of jobs have been lost and economic impact gone by the way side because of them? I mean hotels on Harbor Island are a no brainer I read the article and it sounded like the reason for the delay is because their aren't enough "lower priced hotel rooms"....

Maybe I missed something but come on. Do people not go to Florida because their beaches are walled off by highrises and that there are tall structures everywhere... No they continue to flock to Florida. How many jobs are created by all that construction in Miami, Sunny Isles, Fort Lauderdale.... I mean elevator maintenance and installation guys make big bucks.

Oh and when are the hotels across from Liberty Station going to start construction.

Because the Coastal Commission has such a strangle hold on development, I've always wondered why cities like El Cajon/La Mesa and inland SD neighborhoods don't take advantage of this and allow for big time development.

Seems like they could easily attract developers to build big.

SDfan Jul 13, 2014 8:20 AM


Originally Posted by Leo the Dog (Post 6652417)
Because the Coastal Commission has such a strangle hold on development, I've always wondered why cities like El Cajon/La Mesa and inland SD neighborhoods don't take advantage of this and allow for big time development.

Seems like they could easily attract developers to build big.

These areas are subject to the same NIMBY mindsets that exist along the coast. Also, they don't have coasts, so they are less desirable from the get-go.

La Mesa is trying, kind of, to grow more dense. But it's taking time. Lemon Grove is headed in the right direction, they just have difficulty finding developers willing to invest in their small inland community. El Cajon is... well, El Cajon.

San Marcos has North City and plans for a new "downtown." So, that should be something at the very least.

EastVillageSD Jul 14, 2014 4:41 AM


Originally Posted by S.DviaPhilly (Post 6651216)
This eatery/bar/lounge is going into an already existing one story structure on the northwest corner of that block that has been empty for as long as I can remember (I know shocking.) You can see it in your second pic in the shadows of the red ketchup building. It is very exciting what is going on in that part of East Village food-wise!

That makes me even more excited for the development. Lots more spaces for cool businesses open up in.

Does anyone have any knowledge of what is going on with that Form15 building?

tyleraf Jul 14, 2014 5:44 PM

Good news. Hopefully we see some new office development soon. I'd especially like to see 880 W Broadway get going.

tyleraf Jul 15, 2014 5:06 AM

Info on the cross border airport.

Leo the Dog Jul 15, 2014 3:14 PM

San Diego minimum wage going up to $11.50/hour.

JPAztec Jul 15, 2014 3:43 PM

Since I've temporarily relocated to mammoth lakes, I'm wondering if anybody happens to have any updated construction photos of things going on Downtown? Mainly 15th and island, 9th and Broadway, and any of the embarcadero stuff. I watched 15th and island rise everyday from my place, but moved north when it hit floor 17 or so, it's gotta be getting up there by now.

Thanks in advance!

tyleraf Jul 15, 2014 4:19 PM

I'll try to get downtown soon to take some pics.

Jdawgboy Jul 15, 2014 5:19 PM


Originally Posted by SDfan (Post 6646840)
I'm going to go against the grain here and say that a lot of this "leaving for Texas" stuff is hype. HYPE. The company that bought the three local techies had every intention of moving them to Texas when they signed the deal. They were going to leave regardless if California put up a fight for them or not.

I don't mean to be say California is the most business friendly state, but there are many reasons why people live, work, and vacation here. Texas is cheaper and has less regulatory burden, but it's also politically backwards, socially conservative, disregards its environment, and provides very little for its rapidly growing low wage workers and low income families. They can "poach" all the "high-wage" jobs they want, but their state isn't attractive to socially, morally, environmentally, and ethically conscious people. I hate CEQA, but I also hate pollution more. I dislike regulations against thoughtful development, but I dislike sprawling McMansions more. And I prefer living in an inclusive and progressive state, not one that promotes reparative therapy for LGBT youth, is blatantly racists against a growing Hispanic population, is against women's health, denies climate change and basic science, and sees guns as the solution to end all.

Texas is cool for Texans and companies who want to compromise their integrity for the almighty dollar. Also, good luck finding a large and well-educated workforce out there. I don't hear many people clamoring to move to Texas when they can get the same or better wages and benefits in SF, LA or SD. Those same "high-wage" earners, I bet, would rather stay put than move to that rodeo, no matter how "hip" Austin may be.

You don't know Austin then. Austin is home to a highly skilled population. It's also too late about people clamoring to move here because the majority of the transplants in Austin are from California. It is also a very beautiful city and is more connected to the natural landscape around it than any other Texas city. Our state government may be backwards, but it's capital city is the most liberal in the state.

spoonman Jul 15, 2014 5:46 PM

Loving all the new people joining the forum lately.

As JPAztec said, it would be great to get more connstruction photos on here with some regularity.

tyleraf Jul 15, 2014 7:16 PM

Yea, I'm moving to Chicago next month and I would love to see updates regularly. I will try to get downtown today or tomorrow though to take pictures.

spoonman Jul 15, 2014 7:46 PM

^ Why the move?

tyleraf Jul 15, 2014 8:52 PM


tyleraf Jul 16, 2014 12:52 AM

Hooray! Finally some good news about Horton Plaza Park.

spoonman Jul 16, 2014 4:21 AM

The San Diego Streets blog posted some great updates and photos of 15th & Island.

Here is the link along with some shots. Kudos to them for the great work.

Just over half of the floors have been built...

JPAztec Jul 16, 2014 4:05 PM

Wow, it's going to be a tall bitch! Thanks a bunch for posting that link, I'll be keeping an eye on it.

Streamliner Jul 16, 2014 6:38 PM


Originally Posted by tyleraf (Post 6654900)

Good news! I can't wait for this project to open. But I wish the architecture was a bit better. This should look more like a modern, international gateway and less like Abelardo Rodriguez Elementary.

navyweaxguy Jul 16, 2014 8:47 PM

Westfield needs to use some of it's own money and fix up Horton Plaza. It was a dump when I walked through it last. That was about a year ago.

Streamliner Jul 16, 2014 9:18 PM

I was downtown yesterday for the Esri Conference and took a few pics on my phone's camera. It was a pretty dreary day. Forgot to take pics of Pinnacle towers and Celadon, but both are looking good.

Embarcadero: I hadn't been to this area in awhile. I was surpised at how little of the area was open to the public.

Closed/under construction:

Open to the public:

Open to the public:

Closed/under construction

Part of the Pete White art installation/bathroom:

Streetlights awaiting installation:

Lane Field: Looking over the fence:

Pile of dirt:

Bad picture of the County Administration parking garage adjacent to the Little Italy Trolley stop. Signage showed that the Star Building will not be demolished, which I didn't realize:

County Courthouse:

County Administration Center Park: a shot of the gardens/skyline:

And the fountains:

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