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GaylordWilshire Feb 3, 2021 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 9178550)
Here's 1815 West Adams as of this afternoon, 2 February 2021.

https://i.postimg.cc/pdydpWmq/wad1815nowsmaller-bmp.jpg


This is great HS--thank you so much. The history of the house will soon to be added to https://adamsboulevardlosangeles.blogspot.com/

CityBoyDoug Feb 3, 2021 5:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9178160)
In doing the Hilldale to Clark posts the last week, I ended up with some other things that came to my attention while doing it and so here's some other odds and ends:


The NBC Radio City building at Sunset & Vine was demolished in 1964. Before the Home Savings and Loan building that replaced it was built, the area was a huge vacant lot. A few 1965 views of the location from Ed Ruscha:


https://i1.wp.com/www.curbsideclassi...12/1965-83.jpg

This was my bank from 1972-76. It had several large mosaics in the lobby.
During this time I was in college on the GI Bill which kept me in food and rent money.

https://www.laconservancy.org/sites/...?itok=m76YaHy2
Chase bank

Its now a CHASE bank and a tribute to Hollywood history. Read more about it here: https://www.laconservancy.org/locations/chase-bank-1

Martin Pal Feb 3, 2021 6:23 PM

:previous:

I'd still rather they hadn't torn down NBC, CBD. At least the building on the corner.

CityBoyDoug Feb 3, 2021 8:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9179434)
:previous:

I'd still rather they hadn't torn down NBC, CBD. At least the building on the corner.

I kind of agree, Martin.

But the corner property was worth a fortune and the day of live radio was dead.

ethereal_reality Feb 4, 2021 4:11 AM

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mystery vantage point.

Here's a slide, currently on eBay, that I am sure most of us would like to have. :)




SUBJECT: "A shot from Bunker Hill in Los Angeles, CA. In the scene are the Richfield Oil Building, Statler Hilton Hotel and the Tishman Building."

DATE: August, 1964

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/DZZDyt.jpg
eBay

This is certainly a great view. By 1964 most of Bunker Hill was gone. It makes me wonder where (exactly) the photographer was standing.

It's nicely floral wherever it was. (are those roses, odinthor?)

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ethereal_reality Feb 4, 2021 4:52 AM

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This might be fun. Three mystery locations.

The following three slides are originally from the Los Angeles Planning Department.

No location or date is given.







#1

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/pVQ2Pv.jpg
eBay











#2

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/yudNjq.jpg
eBay










#3

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/dNLEht.jpg
eBay





There is also a fourth slide but it's fairly. .umm. .suburban. (and kinda boring) Go HERE





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odinthor Feb 4, 2021 4:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9180228)
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mystery vantage point.

Here's a slide, currently on eBay, that I am sure most of us would like to have. :)




SUBJECT: "A shot from Bunker Hill in Los Angeles, CA. In the scene are the Richfield Oil Building, Statler Hilton Hotel and the Tishman Building."

DATE: August, 1964

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/DZZDyt.jpg
eBay

This is certainly a great view. By 1964 most of Bunker Hill was gone. It makes me wonder where (exactly) the photographer was standing.

It's nicely floral wherever it was. (are those roses, odinthor?)

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Hmmmmm, e_r . . . They look like old-style Fish Geraniums--really really old-style, the lanky primitive "Geranium red" kind, before they developed other colors. These are pretty healthy, and so must get watered sufficiently. I've seen whole hillsides of these around Avalon, surely escapees from the local gardens of the Aughts, Teens, and 1920s; but these "gone wild" ones are unwatered and much leaner.

CaliNative Feb 4, 2021 5:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9180228)
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mystery vantage point.

Here's a slide, currently on eBay, that I am sure most of us would like to have. :)




SUBJECT: "A shot from Bunker Hill in Los Angeles, CA. In the scene are the Richfield Oil Building, Statler Hilton Hotel and the Tishman Building."

DATE: August, 1964

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/DZZDyt.jpg
eBay

This is certainly a great view. By 1964 most of Bunker Hill was gone. It makes me wonder where (exactly) the photographer was standing.

It's nicely floral wherever it was. (are those roses, odinthor?)

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^^^
The view seems to be a street or two east of Flower (and north of 4th), maybe along Hope or Grand, judging from the position of the Richfield & Tishman buildings which were both between Flower & Fig. So, my guess would be the pic was taken near where the Wells Fargo Center now stands. Less likely near the Bank of America tower location or California Plaza area. Wells Fargo "hill" my best guess. Nice view of the building that almost everybody misses, the Richfield.

As odinthor says, fuzzy leaf ("fish"?) geraniums that have gone "feral" or wild do pretty well in L.A. without being watered. The 15 inches of rainfall is just enough to keep them going. They come from and are adapted to a similar dry summer mediterranean climate area in So. Africa with just a bit more winter rain. Of course during drier than normal years they do struggle and should be watered. Geraniums (pelargoniums) with smooth leaves (Martha Washington and "ivy" geraniums) have a harder time surviving our dry summers without being watered, derived from ancestors that lived in more humid areas. The "fuzzy" leaved kinds like the ones in the picture are more tolerant of our dry summers.

The large bush on the left might be a euphorbia or stick "cactus". These are the kind that bleed white sap when you break off the stems. The variety that are orange are called fire stick plants.

Lorendoc Feb 4, 2021 6:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9180257)
[SIZE="1"].[/SIZE? e mystery locations.

The following three slides are originally from the Los Angeles Planning Department.

No location or date

Number two is looking southeast above 5th Street and San Julian.

CaliNative Feb 4, 2021 6:49 AM

How much of the Charlie Chaplin "English Village" studio buildings near Sunset & La Brea survive? I recall that Jim Henson's operations took over some of the buildings. Is the statue of Kermit as Chaplin still there? How many of the original "village" buildings remain? Were the original United Artists operations that Chaplin formed with Doug Fairbanks & Mary Pickford housed there? Lot of questions. Any good pictures of the "village" as it exists today and as it looked when Chaplin was around? Thanks

HossC Feb 4, 2021 2:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9180257)

This might be fun. Three mystery locations.

The following three slides are originally from the Los Angeles Planning Department.

No location or date is given.

#1

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/pVQ2Pv.jpg
eBay

This one is looking east from the intersection of the Harbor and Santa Monica Freeways. The two buildings in the lower left corner are still standing, but pretty much everything else up to Figueroa has been replaced by the Los Angeles Convention Center. I posted about the saving of the turreted building near the middle in post #18664 back in 2014.

ethereal_reality Feb 4, 2021 11:16 PM

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Thanks Hoss.

The turreted building is the one that caught my eye so it was great to revisit your 2014 post.


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ethereal_reality Feb 4, 2021 11:48 PM

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#2

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/yudNjq.jpg

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Originally Posted by Lorendoc (Post 9180316)
Number two is looking southeast above 5th Street and San Julian.

Thanks Lorendoc. I was stumped by this aerial.




Let's take a closer look. Three of the buildings are still in place.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/hL41Vy.jpg
detail


As you can see below the parking lot with the multi colored cars is now a park.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/NmOpQc.jpg
google_aerial



I was under the impression the bldg. with the green sign (in the vintage aerial) was the Ross Hotel. It's actually the Russ Hotel.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/sPOH21.jpg


I was pleased to see the vintage blade sign is still intact. :)




Russ is spelled out at the top of the sign.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/hV7nXE.jpg

And SRO is at the bottom. "Single Room Occupancy"





If you look closely (and, perhaps, squint) the reddish blade sign is visible in the vintage aerial.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/d3dheK.jpg

See it?


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ethereal_reality Feb 5, 2021 12:59 AM

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Once more. . .

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/7AJ4jA.jpg
eBay

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 9180260)
Hmmmmm, e_r . . . They look like old-style Fish Geraniums--really really old-style, the lanky primitive "Geranium red" kind, before they developed other colors. These are pretty healthy, and so must get watered sufficiently. I've seen whole hillsides of these around Avalon, surely escapees from the local gardens of the Aughts, Teens, and 1920s; but these "gone wild" ones are unwatered and much leaner.

Thanks for answering my question, odinthor. I appreciate it.



I've never heard of Fish Geraniums so I thought I'd look them up.

Fish Geraniums:

"Not too many people seem to ask for this classic plant anymore, which was customarily grown in clay pots."

The mention of pots backs your claim that the plants are "escapees" from the gardens of the old Bunker Hill mansions. I think that's really cool.

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Beaudry Feb 5, 2021 7:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9180228)
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mystery vantage point.

Here's a slide, currently on eBay, that I am sure most of us would like to have. :)

SUBJECT: "A shot from Bunker Hill in Los Angeles, CA. In the scene are the Richfield Oil Building, Statler Hilton Hotel and the Tishman Building."

DATE: August, 1964

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/DZZDyt.jpg
eBay

This is certainly a great view. By 1964 most of Bunker Hill was gone. It makes me wonder where (exactly) the photographer was standing.

It's nicely floral wherever it was. (are those roses, odinthor?)

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That is a nice shot. You can bet I've got a bid in on it!

So remember that 1955 aerial from the blimp?

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...24df1f6d_b.jpgusc

The white structure center is in our slide, and note a corner of the Richfield at very upper left.

Here's a close up—

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...a83004b8_b.jpg

That white apartment house is the Briggs (Frank H. Peters, 1907), known as the Barbara Worth after 1926, at 407 South Hope St.

My theory is this was taken in front of the former 343 S Bunker Hill. It was demolished in the summer of '62 and the slide was shot in '64. The red flowers may be the same? A zoom-in at the pic makes me think they're hibiscus though.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...5c76ff88_b.jpghuntington

Look close and you'll see that behind the trees the skyscrapers line up the same.

ethereal_reality Feb 5, 2021 2:31 PM

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:previous: That is fantastic....There's odinthor's Fish Geraniums.


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Martin Pal Feb 5, 2021 6:04 PM

:oops:
see next post

Martin Pal Feb 5, 2021 6:35 PM

:previous:


That seller on eBay (with the Bunker Hill shot of the RIchfield bldg.) has several other interesting slides available shot on Bunker Hill.

One is a very similar look as the photo below of the Minnewaska Dome Hotel, but the slide (LINK) from 1964 is labeled "right after the fire." Was there a story behind the fire in this hotel at that time? A google search says the fire was on July 25, 1964. In the eBay photo: behind the palm tree you see the corner of the new Dorothy Chandler Pavilion nearing completion.

https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3161...df32a57f_o.gifflickr

Lorendoc Feb 5, 2021 8:07 PM

Mystery location #3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9180257)
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This might be fun. Three mystery locations.

The following three slides are originally from the Los Angeles Planning Department.

No location or date is given.


#3

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/dNLEht.jpg
eBay


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Ok, this one was driving me slightly bonkers until I realized e_r's photo was flipped horizontally.

https://i.imgur.com/mZcsgrq.jpg
Google Earth Pro

When unflipped, it's looking south near 6th and Towne.

Beaudry Feb 5, 2021 8:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9181854)
:previous:


That seller on eBay (with the Bynker Hill shot of the RIchfield bldg.) has several other interesting slides available shot on Bunker Hill.

One is a very similar look as the photo below of the Minnewaska Dome Hotel, but the slide (LINK) from 1964 is labeled "right after the fire." Was there a story behind the fire in this hotel at that time? A google search says the fire was on July 25, 1964. In the eBay photo: behind the palm tree you see the corner of the new Dorothy Chandler Pavilion nearing completion.

https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3161...df32a57f_o.gifflickr

There's not that much of a story apart from it was likely set off by a cigarette smoldering in a lobby sofa or somesuch. It killed three. There has long been speculation that the fire was set to punish/scare off Frank Babcock, Dome owner, who had put the City through the wringer with multiple lawsuits concerning the legality of redevelopment. But that's just speculation.

(Shameless plug alert) I cover all this, with some rare photos of the Dome on fire, as part of my three-page spread on Hill conflagrations in my recently published Bunker Noir!

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...0bc505f7_h.jpg


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