SAN FRANCISCO | Golden State Warriors Arena (Chase Center)
Warriors to build new arena, move back to S.F.
SFGate.com Phillip Matier, Andrew Ross Tuesday, May 22, 2012 Quote:
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How can you build an arena on top of a pier?
I mean, it could be done, but you would need a massively reinforced new pier, and you certainly couldn't do it for $500 million. A conventional urban arena on "dry land" costs upwards of a billion. It would be very cool if it could be done, but I would guess this would cost bare minimum $1.5 billion in 2012 dollars when all is said and done. That's serious cash, but they're VC guys, so maybe they don't mind it. The Barclays Center in Brooklyn costs a little over $1 billion, and has no radical engineering issues. The MSG renovation in Manhattan (which is really only a temporary stopgap until they eventually relocate) will cost nearly $1 billion. |
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I moved the thread since the discussion has turned rather quickly to only the arena. You can link to a new thread about only the relocation of the Golden State Warriors in the Skybar.
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A conventional basketball arena does not cost a billion dollars. Amway Center in Orlando is only two years old and was less than $500 million.
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I'm really excited this is happening! It helps take the sting out of the 49er's move, and a basketball arena is much better for the city in general because it opens up a number of entertainment options that the city didn't previously have (just imagine the Madonna concerts here!).
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All of that said, I like this idea and location - hope it happens. I'm just skeptical at this point. |
Those renderings look much better than I expected. It’s a spectacular location for an arena. Still, even with the entire SF political machinery behind the project, it’s going to be an uphill battle to get all the approvals.
I imagine the Warriors will have to grease the wheels a bit to get their approvals. Tossing some money to affordable housing, public transportation, wetlands restoration, etc. will probably be necessary to get a project like this approved. FYI, the Warriors have posted ridiculously high resolution images of those drawings online (images are 25-40 MB each): http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/.ele...ing1_HiRes.jpg http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/.ele...ing2_HiRes.jpg http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/.ele...ing3_HiRes.jpg http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/.ele...ing4_HiRes.jpg |
I love this concept and am glad the Warriors are moving back to SF and are picking a bay view location.
My only complaint is the renderings. The Warriors kept druming it up like it was going to be architecturally significant. Although it has a nice open glass view on the one side, this looks to be a basic arena that would be in the lower tier of the NBA if it weren't on the pier. I hope these are just basic outlines/ place holders for a better design. Overall, great work. What will happen to Oracle Arena after 2017? Will the Warriors give up the territorial rights to Oakland if another team were to want to relocate there? |
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Warriors face many hurdles in building S.F. arena
SFGate.com Heather Knight,John Coté Wednesday, May 23, 2012 Quote:
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fantastic that this project would be done, maybe some Olympic games in the future could be in the city. :fireworks
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Given the location, I'd like to see something a bit more iconic in the roof shape, but otherwise a great project in terms of infrastructure. They should have game day ferries as well from other piers and east bay locations.
...not that I actually believe that this will get built in the next 10 years... |
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Also, I heard on the radio that a ferry dock will be part of the plan. |
^That's what I've read as well. These aren't real designs at all. Just some sketches to get the imagination going.
I'm with Gordo on all of this: very excited, but also very dubious. They have Coastal Commission, Bay Commission, Port of SF and city approvals to get through. Not to mention the residents of the area who are already voicing concerns about traffic, parking, views, access, etc. I think their timeline is a fantasy, but if they can tough it out through a laborious approval process, they might get there some day. An arena would be a great adjunct to the convention center (for larger events). For example, Oracle would no longer need to run busses out to TI for their OpenWorld parties. Unfortunately for Oakland, the arena that bears that corporate name will suddenly find itself getting skipped for much more than just basketball games if this happens. Many of the acts that normally use it will shift those over to this arena instead. As for building on piers, I've read that they need about $100M of work to be ready to build upon and the arena should cost about $500M on top of that. Not sure if it's mentioned above somewhere, but the Warriors are also after the parking lot across the street, which is currently zoned for residential. That would certainly help offset some of the cost for them. |
personally I'd rather have seen the 49ers build a stadium in the area (perhaps on the Giants' parking lots across the bridge, south of the ballpark....and send the Warriors to Santa Clara.
No team has ever been so attached to and so much about San Francisco as the oldest (by far) professional franchise in the west, the 49ers. |
Snohetta was chosen to design the new Warriors arena! I have high hopes for this one.
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