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roletand Jan 17, 2022 6:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAN Man (Post 9505344)
It's nice to see this project moving along now. What has it been, 4 years to get to this point where multiple structures are about to go vertical?

Agreed, it's great to see things happening at the RaDD site. They were originally targeting 2023 completion for parts of the project which is already next year!

roletand Jan 17, 2022 7:02 PM

Holland Partners Courthouse Commons
 
It looks like forms for the V shaped concrete supports are going up at the Courthouse Commons site.

https://i.imgur.com/EJ6xXUv.jpeg

Renders here https://carrierjohnson.com/works/courthouse-commons/

Will O' Wisp Jan 19, 2022 8:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IrvineNative (Post 9505145)
Here's a commentary I wrote:

The Driverless Alternative to an Airport Trolley Extension

Alex Wong

Voice of San Diego

January 14, 2022

https://www.voiceofsandiego.org/topi...ley-extension/

Nice job dude! I still believe a trolley extension is unlikely to be built over an APM regardless, but I respect the heck out of taking the time to lay all this out for the public to see. We need more citizens like you :tup:

CaliNative Jan 19, 2022 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by roletand (Post 9504614)
The project between Union & Front St on W Ash is the Alexan Little Italy apartment building. According to the proposed plans, it should top out around 407 feet with 36 floors.

For relative height, the Luma building two blocks down is about 260-270 feet tall.

Thanks

IrvineNative Jan 20, 2022 6:25 PM

An update on the Costa Verde redevelopment. Can anyone with a subscription tell me when the article says construction will begin?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...6oAR76nTGhFbD5

The Facebook page for Riverwalk San Diego has a January 7 post saying construction will begin in April.

https://m.facebook.com/pg/riverwalks...ernal&mt_nav=0

Why does permitting take so long? The project was approved in November 2020, that's 18 months of permitting! Seems like in San Diego once things break ground things get built fast, it's just the permitting that takes an eternity. Could CEQA be to blame again?

SDfan Jan 20, 2022 7:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IrvineNative (Post 9509075)
An update on the Costa Verde redevelopment. Can anyone with a subscription tell me when the article says construction will begin?

Article:

Quote:

Leading biotech office builder Alexandria Real Estate has purchased the Costa Verde Center, a strip mall opposite Westfield UTC, to amplify its vision for a life science campus connected to the trolley line and its nearby properties.

The previous property owner, Jacksonville-based Regency Centers, said in a press release this week that it sold the 13.9-acre site — sandwiched between La Jolla Village Drive and Nobel Drive at 8560 Genesee Ave. — for $125 million. Dan Ryan, who is co-chief investment officer for Alexandria, confirmed the deal, which closed on Jan. 12.

“This is absolutely one of the best sites on the West Coast,” Ryan told the Union-Tribune. “It’ll go from being an old, dilapidated retail center to a vibrant, exciting community center and we’re really enthusiastic for the potential of the site.”

The Costa Verde Center, built in 1989, is a grocery-anchored, neighborhood shopping center that is best known for its McDonald’s, Chevron and Bristol Farms, although parts of the strip mall are now vacant ahead of a long-planned revitalization. The site is at the terminus of the all-new UC San Diego Blue Line, where an elevated platform connects to both Westfield UTC on the west and the Costa Verde site on the east.

Regency and Alexandria were, until recently, working together in a joint venture to overhaul the property as a transit-connected urban job center complemented by community shops, restaurants and a hotel. In November 2020, the partners secured City Council approval for a community plan amendment, allowing them to add 400,000 square feet of office and lab space and a 200-room hotel on top of the site’s already entitled 178,000 square feet of retail space.

That plan remains intact for the time being, although Alexandria is reviewing its options, Ryan said.

In documents filed with the Securities and Exchange, the prolific life science lab developer said it was planning to form a “mega campus” by tying Costa Verde’s office and lab offering to the firm’s other properties in the adjacent area.

“We recently completed the re-entitlement process and expect to develop 680,000 (square feet) of Class A office/laboratory space that will combine with our existing University District properties to form a mega campus aggregating 1.7 million (square feet), upon expiration of the existing in-place leases in 2022,” the company said in a Jan. 5 filing.

Pasadena-based Alexandria has $28.6 billion in assets and expects to acquire another $3 billion of real estate in 2022, according to regulatory filings. In San Diego, the life science developer oversees 8.4 million square feet of space spread across 103 properties, with its holdings concentrated in Torrey Pines, University City and Sorrento Mesa.

In the University City submarket, Alexandria owns a number of properties northwest of the mall, as well as a collection of in-development sites along Campus Pointe Drive. Ryan said the developer would use a shuttle system to transport workers to and from Costa Verde, providing easy access to the new trolley line.

The developer expects to break ground on the Costa Verde project in the second half of 2022 and complete construction in 30 months.

Alexandria recently disclosed in regulatory filings “historic” demand for space, reporting record leasing activity in 2021. The company leased 9.5 million square feet of space during the year. Its previous annual leasing record was 5 million square feet.

mello Jan 20, 2022 7:46 PM

Wow so it sounds like the delay was because they are actually going a bit more ambitious with what they originally planned and also the leases need to expire on everyone in that retail center.

Irvine Native: Were you talking about permitting for the UTC Biotech project has taken 18 months or the RiverWalk Mission Valley site?

IrvineNative Jan 20, 2022 9:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mello (Post 9509222)
Wow so it sounds like the delay was because they are actually going a bit more ambitious with what they originally planned and also the leases need to expire on everyone in that retail center.

Irvine Native: Were you talking about permitting for the UTC Biotech project has taken 18 months or the RiverWalk Mission Valley site?

Good news, increasing the office space from 400k to 680k! Office TOD generates more ridership than residential TOD does. 1 million sq ft office space will hold more people than 1 million sq ft of residential, because cubicles are smaller than apartments. Plus, no one lives at an office, so everyone commutes, while with apartments teleworkers, children, and retirees will stay at home.

Yes, my question was why Riverwalk is taking 18 months from approval to permitting.

dirt patch Jan 21, 2022 2:49 AM

Downtown should get several more underway and that would be pretty much it. Hopefully, Bosa would continue his development spree.

roletand Jan 23, 2022 5:01 PM

Another tower crane went up on the RaDD site, closest to Broadway & Pacific Hwy! It looks like they're up to 4 cranes now.

SAN Man Jan 23, 2022 9:50 PM

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Originally Posted by roletand (Post 9511556)
Another tower crane went up on the RaDD site, closest to Broadway & Pacific Hwy! It looks like they're up to 4 cranes now.

The construction site is impressive. If you count the smallish crane (not a tower crane) near Broadway, there are 5 now.

negentropic behavior Jan 24, 2022 6:45 PM

Proposals for 10th and G street (same block as Grocery Outlet)
 
Does anyone have information or know of current proposals for the north half of the block between G St. and Market, between 10th and 11th? There is an existing 2 story building next to vacant warehouse, a smog check/auto repair shop, and that vacant 3 story apartment building (Yale House or something) that has been boarded up for years.

They put up a construction fence around the 2 story home that is across 10th St. where the Radian/Target building is under construction. I think they're about to demo the 2 story building.

JSW Jan 24, 2022 8:10 PM

Simone - 457ft, 36 Floors
 
Simone (formerly Union & Ash) in Little Italy flying up fast now, and glass is already being installed. This one should make a big impact on the skyline coming into downtown from the 5 from the north.

https://i.imgur.com/tx7vK3V.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/Ee1gTZP.jpeg

Streamliner Jan 24, 2022 9:32 PM

^ Oh wow, it will be nice to have some more height/density there!

Though I'm curious how the crane will fit once it nears the top. Didn't the Central Courthouse have some crane drama with the FAA that resulted in a stop work order? This building is almost 20 feet taller and 3 blocks closer to SAN's flight path than that one.

SDfan Jan 25, 2022 1:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Streamliner (Post 9512857)
^ Oh wow, it will be nice to have some more height/density there!

Though I'm curious how the crane will fit once it nears the top. Didn't the Central Courthouse have some crane drama with the FAA that resulted in a stop work order? This building is almost 20 feet taller and 3 blocks closer to SAN's flight path than that one.

I thought about that too, but it looks like they're using a traditional tower crane for their project. The courthouse had four cranes, whose arms would point upward of 700 feet when not in use. That caused the FAA heartburn. In contrast these more traditional keep their arms horizontal, meaning they're not much taller than the towers they're constructing.

SDfan Jan 25, 2022 1:34 AM

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Originally Posted by negentropic behavior (Post 9512565)
Does anyone have information or know of current proposals for the north half of the block between G St. and Market, between 10th and 11th? There is an existing 2 story building next to vacant warehouse, a smog check/auto repair shop, and that vacant 3 story apartment building (Yale House or something) that has been boarded up for years.

They put up a construction fence around the 2 story home that is across 10th St. where the Radian/Target building is under construction. I think they're about to demo the 2 story building.

I feel like there was a tower proposal there some time ago, but it never took off. Sometimes developers get entitlements to spook more institutional builders into buying them out (Pinnacle ala Pacific Heights, Bosa ala Diegan). Whenever I see a LLC or small developer with no experience proposing a high-rise project, my eye brows raise.

BuildSanDiego Jan 28, 2022 10:43 PM

Sports Arena site
 
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...e-5-contenders…..Here is the complete list of developers that are competing for the Sports Arena site. Hope I did this right.

Streamliner Jan 29, 2022 12:08 AM

Because I like renders, here's a few from the article:

Discover Midway (Brookfield)
https://archive.is/Rj1h0/94c6e3924b5...893c074b6e.jpg

HomeTownSD (Monarch Group/Essex Property:
https://archive.is/Rj1h0/76ab767e44a...adfa47ca21.png

Midway Rising (Zephyr Partners):
https://archive.is/Rj1h0/a7d1a72e952...24f10111f6.jpg

Midway Village+ (Toll Brothers):
https://archive.is/Rj1h0/f436ec26ec8...63fe5e5d00.jpg

Neighborhood Next (ConAm Group):
https://archive.is/Rj1h0/908aebac153...4a087f124c.jpg

HurricaneHugo Jan 29, 2022 5:15 AM

I pick 3. New arena. Lots of housing. The arena itself is meh but eh

SAN Man Jan 29, 2022 9:26 PM

I like the last picture, but that will never happen.

sentinel Jan 30, 2022 12:33 AM

That Brookfield arena proposal looks like a bunch of napkins on a table

https://archive.is/Rj1h0/94c6e3924b5...893c074b6e.jpg:yuck:

eburress Jan 30, 2022 12:35 AM

^^ Seriously. What's even the point of creating renders like that? They're like concept art for a science fiction movie.

eburress Jan 30, 2022 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by sentinel (Post 9518750)
That Brookfield arena proposal looks like a bunch of napkins on a table

https://archive.is/Rj1h0/94c6e3924b5...893c074b6e.jpg:yuck:

Or a turtle, stuck on its back.

sentinel Jan 30, 2022 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by eburress (Post 9518753)
Or a turtle, stuck on its back.

Omg lol
Cannot unsee it now :haha:

SamFlood Jan 30, 2022 3:43 AM

San Diego(ans) needs to get over the fear of building big. Whether its housing or facilities.

JSW Jan 31, 2022 7:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sentinel (Post 9518750)
That Brookfield arena proposal looks like a bunch of napkins on a table

https://archive.is/Rj1h0/94c6e3924b5...893c074b6e.jpg:yuck:

Ok but guys... look at the inclusion of the pedestrian overpass crossing to let residents easily get across the 8! Thats huge. Forget the designs of the arena and housing... this is a proposal and those specifics will likely change dramatically. People need to rally around ideas that make this city more liveable because without more pedestrian friendly ideas like this, I cannot even imagine living in that area.

SamFlood Feb 1, 2022 4:59 AM

this city map has an updated satellite image


https://sandiego.maps.arcgis.com/app...d92ef22b5ff349


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...2b009c17_b.jpg

Nerv Feb 1, 2022 7:19 AM

Build any of them but the HometownSD plan. Tiny arena is a step backwards and defeats the purpose…

Streamliner Feb 1, 2022 4:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JSW (Post 9520329)
Ok but guys... look at the inclusion of the pedestrian overpass crossing to let residents easily get across the 8! Thats huge. Forget the designs of the arena and housing... this is a proposal and those specifics will likely change dramatically. People need to rally around ideas that make this city more liveable because without more pedestrian friendly ideas like this, I cannot even imagine living in that area.

It looks like the Neighborhood Next proposal also has an overpass. Based on the location, it looks like these would connect to the San Diego River Bikeway. If that's the case, and unless it's a required feature, I imagine that would be the first part of the design to fall victim to cost cutting measures. You'd be dealing with Caltrans ROW and likely waterway permitting due to the lack of space on the north side of the 8.

Streamliner Feb 1, 2022 5:06 PM

UC San Diego's Pepper Canyon West residential towers were approved and are now set for construction. They're 22/23 stories (~230-40 feet tall), right next to the university's Trolley station. They should make for a nice gateway to the campus. Renders from the environmental doc:

https://i.imgur.com/Ad6oPIp.png

https://i.imgur.com/4CJzUXZ.png

https://i.imgur.com/FnoEqmX.png

Steadfast Feb 2, 2022 12:46 AM

Fencing is going up around the parking lot at 8th & B. Looks like we can expect another big development to get underway soon. The area just south of Symphony Tower is going to be dramatically different in a couple of years...

SAN Man Feb 2, 2022 2:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Steadfast (Post 9521917)
Fencing is going up around the parking lot at 8th & B. Looks like we can expect another big development to get underway soon. The area just south of Symphony Tower is going to be dramatically different in a couple of years...

Oh wow, any information on the size and scope of the development?

B Street is turning into quite a nice canyon.

JSW Feb 2, 2022 6:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steadfast (Post 9521917)
Fencing is going up around the parking lot at 8th & B. Looks like we can expect another big development to get underway soon. The area just south of Symphony Tower is going to be dramatically different in a couple of years...

8th & B is supposed to be 40 stories and will look like this according to permits filed:

https://webdocs.sandiego.gov/public/...es/8th_&_B.png

So yea, B street cluster is getting clustery..er.

homebucket Feb 2, 2022 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Streamliner (Post 9521270)
UC San Diego's Pepper Canyon West residential towers were approved and are now set for construction. They're 22/23 stories (~230-40 feet tall), right next to the university's Trolley station. They should make for a nice gateway to the campus. Renders from the environmental doc:

Not a big fan of those vertical stripes but the new housing is welcome and I like that it's next to the Trolley station.

Streamliner Feb 2, 2022 10:45 PM

Speaking of that corner, whatever happened to the second tower of The Rey? Did they just give up on it? I thought maybe it'd be a year behind the first, but it's been years now and I don't see anything.

JerellO Feb 3, 2022 8:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Streamliner (Post 9523109)
Speaking of that corner, whatever happened to the second tower of The Rey? Did they just give up on it? I thought maybe it'd be a year behind the first, but it's been years now and I don't see anything.

Honestly I’m completely fine if they don’t build the second tower, too many twin towers already in the city. I think they should sell it to someone else and have another developer build a different tower to add a better depth of density by having it be of different design and height

mello Feb 3, 2022 6:51 PM

I'm loving the prominent cluster that will form in that section of downtown around Symphony Towers. Too bad BOSA is being a punk and not building on the empty lot in front of Santa Fe station, I would much rather have that Pacific Gate semi Twin breaking ground over the one he is starting now. How about you guys :shrug:

SAN Man Feb 3, 2022 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Streamliner (Post 9523109)
Speaking of that corner, whatever happened to the second tower of The Rey? Did they just give up on it? I thought maybe it'd be a year behind the first, but it's been years now and I don't see anything.

I was disappointed with the overall height of The Rey. I'd like to see something a little taller on the remaining half of the block. But yeah, like you said, I can't believe that second half has sat empty for so long. In it's current state it's such an awkward feel with half of it going up Cortez Hill and the lower half a surface parking lot.

https://goo.gl/maps/FNLw9oNrtaS43hNv5

Streamliner Feb 5, 2022 4:37 PM

Interesting article in the U-T:

Court sides with San Diego developer: Certain housing projects are exempt from local restrictions
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...ensity-bonuses

Quote:

A court case involving a new apartment complex going up in Bankers Hill might have statewide implications for builders that include subsidized units in their projects.

A state appeals court ruled last month that the new luxury 525 Olive building overlooking Balboa Park was allowed to be 25 percent taller after it agreed to include 18 subsidized apartments for low-income residents. The ruling came as a result of community groups suing the project over its height.

The court took it a step further this week by certifying the ruling as precedent for all of California, at the insistence of the statewide California Building Industry Association and its Bay Area affiliate, as first reported by the San Francisco Chronicle.

For San Diego, the ruling might not be as noticeable as in the rest of the state. The city has aggressively pursued zoning changes and density bonuses for a decade during the building boom downtown. The ruling will likely now clear the way and speed up proposed projects that often face legal action, said Nathan Moeder, a San Diego housing analyst.

The California law that allows for extra height if subsidized units are included has been on the books since 1979. However, Moeder said it is frequently challenged in courts by neighborhoods that oppose taller buildings.

“It’s like saying: Can we all just save ourselves a step of a lawsuit and going through the appeal process for a year or two years,” he said. “Each time this comes up, the state can now say: This was already shot down. There’s precedent. You can’t sue for this reason.”

https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/d...ingphoto-3.jpg

JerellO Feb 6, 2022 8:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Streamliner (Post 9526107)
Interesting article in the U-T:

Court sides with San Diego developer: Certain housing projects are exempt from local restrictions
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...ensity-bonuses



https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/d...ingphoto-3.jpg

Thank the lord 🙄 my goodness… people need to chill… we’re not building the Empire State Building anywhere lol

JSW Feb 7, 2022 3:02 AM

Bankers Hill
 
Speaking of Bankers Hill, I was literally just admiring that building yesterday as I rode through the brand new protected bike lake system on 5th and 4th since it's now mostly open... and WOW. I used to live on 5th in that general area, and it was so easy to see the missed potential of the neighborhood. Now I feel like it's taken huge strides forward very quickly as 5th has taken on a road diet that makes it much safer for pedestrians and cyclists/scooters. The whole system removes the drag-strip nature of that stretch as cars are encouraged to move slower since there is a lot more restriction and visible crossing guidance. They've done a fantastic job, and now downtown feels much better connected to Bankers Hill and the park... not to mention it instantly feels like a much more vibrant and inviting neighborhood.

Finally we have a safe bike system that connects downtown to Hillcrest, but holy f**k is University one of the most insanely dangerous and incomplete bikeways.

NoTrippin Feb 7, 2022 4:59 PM

I snapped a few pics while I was at the USS Midway museum yesterday. I don't know how to upload the photos though.

file:///home/chronos/u-b65a1bf2ba2d42b39c5303bf71e8f7ce9d250d03/MyFiles/Downloads/IMG-2131.jpg

file:///home/chronos/u-b65a1bf2ba2d42b39c5303bf71e8f7ce9d250d03/MyFiles/Downloads/IMG-2131.pdf[URL="file:///home/chronos/u-b65a1bf2ba2d42b39c5303bf71e8f7ce9d250d03/MyFiles/Downloads/IMG-2131.pdf"]

Streamliner Feb 7, 2022 6:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NoTrippin (Post 9527738)
I snapped a few pics while I was at the USS Midway museum yesterday. I don't know how to upload the photos though.

file:///home/chronos/u-b65a1bf2ba2d42b39c5303bf71e8f7ce9d250d03/MyFiles/Downloads/IMG-2131.jpg

file:///home/chronos/u-b65a1bf2ba2d42b39c5303bf71e8f7ce9d250d03/MyFiles/Downloads/IMG-2131.pdf[URL="file:///home/chronos/u-b65a1bf2ba2d42b39c5303bf71e8f7ce9d250d03/MyFiles/Downloads/IMG-2131.pdf"]

You need to upload them to a host site like flickr or imgur, then copy the URL and paste it here

NoTrippin Feb 8, 2022 1:15 AM

https://flic.kr/p/2n2tTwt
[IMG][IMG][/IMG][/IMG]
https://flic.kr/p/2n2tyNu
https://flic.kr/p/2n2v67S
https://flic.kr/p/2n2vcJj
https://flic.kr/p/2n2u1bW

homebucket Feb 8, 2022 6:10 AM

^ Links still aren't working.

NoTrippin Feb 9, 2022 4:19 PM

[IMG]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...96e2d66a_k.jpgIMG-2132 by Jay Gibbons, on Flickr[/IMG]

NoTrippin Feb 9, 2022 4:25 PM

[IMG]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...3f24550b_k.jpgIMG-2129 by Jay Gibbons, on Flickr[/IMG]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...09e56a2b_k.jpgIMG-2135 by Jay Gibbons, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...0c2da41c_k.jpgIMG-2131 by Jay Gibbons, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...9d7315ae_k.jpgIMG-2135 by Jay Gibbons, on Flickr

Streamliner Feb 9, 2022 5:18 PM

Those work, very nice pics! Can't wait to see that block fully built.

Streamliner Feb 14, 2022 9:48 PM

Over the weekend I went to a rooftop restaurant (Seneca, 19th floor of the InterContinental Hotel, very nice btw), and it had a great view of downtown and the waterfront, as well as the RaDD/IQHQ/Manchester Gateway project site. I took a few shots for posterity:

Looking south toward the RaDD/Manchester hotel construction:

https://i.imgur.com/IoHGZGl.jpg?1

Looking east down Broadway:

https://i.imgur.com/vbXDxXz.jpg?1

Looking north toward the Grande towers/Springhill Suites:

https://i.imgur.com/3AK1A5N.jpg?1

SAN Man Feb 15, 2022 12:17 AM

Really nice pics! Thanks guys for posting them!


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