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Thank you for the update, Hamilton... 758 ft is a bit shorter than I like but two at that height along with Journal Squared's second and largest tower at 759 ft will add substantial height to the skyline nonetheless. I do still like the design though I'm glad you cleared up the curves thing... would have looked really nice with little twists and waves, though to give it a bit more snap.
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http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2...ive_plann.html
http://image.nj.com/home/njo-media/w...9f45064b34.jpg http://image.nj.com/home/njo-media/w...c3a05ebb1.jpeg http://image.nj.com/home/njo-media/w...f5bf57d71.jpeg Terrence T. McDonald | The Jersey Journal http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2...ive_plann.html |
http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2...ive_plann.html
Revised plans for One Journal Square, the $800 million, two-tower Kushner Companies project slated for a plot of land outside the Journal Square PATH hub, were approved unanimously by the Jersey City Planning Board last night. "It's about time we got something built in Journal Square," said board member Arnold Bettinger, a former councilman in the area. "We need to get this done," said board member Orlando Gonzalez. "I've seen I don't know how many iterations of this." The project received approval from the Planning Board in August 2016. Those plans have been revised and now include two 56-story towers on top of a 10-story podium and housing a total of 1,512 residential units plus retail and office space. The towers will rise 758 feet high. Jon Baker, who lives on Newark Avenue, said he has views of the two Trump towers to the east and will have views of Kushner's One Journal Square to the west. "My concern is that two more Minecraft obelisks to autocracy will not only be damaging to our community's psyche, they're also going to lower our property and resale values," Baker said. "They'll be eyesores, constant reminders of western civilization in decline and as a result damaging to the mental health of our great city's immigrant community." |
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Look I think Jared is a creepy crooked son of a bitch, that like his wife and father-in-law, has no business in the WH, but as far as this being what this author claims...? GMAFB |
I think the new design is fugly. But if it means them FINALLY building something here... I'll take it.
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I just don't believe it -- too many times I've gotten excited and nothing.
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The old facade looked horrible. It almost seemed modular in nature and cheap with those oversize frames around the windows. I bet it wouldn't have come out well at all.
Good for NJ avoiding a tower that stinks of Atlantic Yards in Brooklyn. New one is bland but more elegant and the cantilevers give it something extra. |
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I personally wouldn't mind seeing one more redesign. There must have been twenty approvals at the planning board over there years for this single project. What's one more?
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I actually preferred the redesign with the cantilevers to the previous one... only wish they had pushed the FAA and kept them close to 900 ft, and not back off to 758ft. Without We Works and a real office component though, the extra floors aren't really necessary... over 1,500 apartments would still make this a huge project. Hopefully by this spring sometime, we can finally have groundbreaking instead of excuses. With the second of the KRE rival Kushner family development in back of the transit station which will be 71 stories and 759 ft in height... wouldn't it be fantastic to have 3 buildings over over 750 ft going up at the same time so close to each other? Soon we could be seeing a nice cluster of skyscrapers in the heart of the city, instead of all the growth being downtown or right along the waterfront. I won't bet the ranch, but the chances something could happen soon are at least a good possibility now, much better odds than we thought a few months back.
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Politics Still Shrouds One Journal Square As Kushner Cos. Plans to Move Forward
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The article, unfortunately, ultimately gives us no idea if anything is going to happen. If the mayor continues with his opposition(even development foe for the most part City Councilman Richard Boggiano wants this done and even supported the potential project across the street involving the old Jersey Journal Building included in the development of a 72 story tower behind it and would support even an abatement if it didn't go as long as 30 years) nothing will get done here. The fears of those thinking it could be a decade or more of this kind of eyesore may well be realized. One good thing is that the Kushners have ruled out asking for those kinds of payments from foreign nationals that really helped get this project in hot water. I have no love for them, but it's vital we get the Square back on track...while the rival Kushner family Journal Squared is doing well as the second and largest (71 stories, 759ft) of their three story project is ready for construction to start, it's behind the Square. One Journal Square would be the visible heart of the Square, and if the Kushners can acquire enough additional funding to get things going for real, the city should compromise and agree to some sweeteners so long as it's not ridiculous. Get this done.
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Really negative story out this hour about the developer receiving improper loans. One Journal Square = dead?
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This project has been resubmitted to city planning and is moving forward. |
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/28/b...T.nav=top-news If there's any enforcement, it's unlikely that they'll simply assume that because Jared Kushner ostensibly divested himself in Kushner Co. that he didn't act in Kushner Co.'s benefit. In any case, this means that future and current financing for Kushner Cos. projects will face enormous scrutiny, just like how Anbang's deal for 666 was torpedoed, and Anbang was taken over by the Chinese government. |
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And I can't stand you-know-who in the WH as much as anyone, but there is no relationship between JSQ and the WH. Stop with the ridiculous conjecture already. The whole WH staff could go to prison for life and it would have nothing to do with this thread. |
What's hard to understand? Kushner and Cos. got the loans after meeting with Jared. Kushner and Cos. is developing Journal Square. Did you even read the article?
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Excellent interview with Boggiano by Jersey Digs
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The One Journal Square curse strikes again!
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Letter from the developer to the Mayor: https://hudsoncountyview.com/wp-cont...ino-Letter.pdf Letter from JCRA attorneys to the developer: https://hudsoncountyview.com/wp-cont...ann-Letter.pdf This one is not looking good... |
It's imperative that if in short order we know that if there is no way Kushner can credibly see this through, Fulop does what he did with the previous ownership...push them to sell. But this time to a developer who doesn't have someone in charge with delusions of political grandeur.
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Its the Kushner curse. Everything with "Kushner" seems to have bad luck, he's a jinx! He's like the Jinx from a Bronx Tale. We can't have him touch the money, put him in the closet! |
Charles Kushner recognizes that their name is in the toilet right now and has been doing a full court press in the media. But anyone who doesn't want media or political scrutiny will not go in with them, which is probably why WeWork backed out of this project, torpedoing it.
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Rename to Renhsuk Companies and they'll be good to go ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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Jersey City won’t give Charles Kushner subsidies, but his brother got them
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I'm no longer a Jersey City resident, but this was my favorite proposal since I lived in Journal Square. I think the curse is true and it will not be redeveloped anytime soon. :(
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Jersey City Loses Latest Battle With Kushner, Ordered to Pay Legal Fees
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Enough already, either the city has to make it worth the Kushner's while to go away and sell or somehow they have to work with the Kushners to get this damn thing built. It's in no one's interest to leave this place a gaping block of nothing. Stop with this crap already... I loathe just about everything Trump related, but this is about the future of the centerpiece of 21st century Journal Square and it's an embarrassment this is just playing along and nothing gets done.
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100% agreed with the above. The city needs to work collaboratively with the developers. Put aside the politics and the fact that the family is loathsome. Get it built.
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This is big government/partisan politics at its worst. Harassment of private citizens for no apparent reason other than pophobia of the "other side" and rUsSiAn OliGArChs. The result: a scar on the cityscape where there would otherwise be a vibrant block of shops, homes, jobs and people to fill them.
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As for the above post, there are a lot of valid reasons to not lt the developers control everything... thankfully we aren't an exclusive enough place to build sky high towers that cost $50 million plus that more likely would be pied a terre arrangements for shady billionaires like the aforementioned Russian oligarchs... there's room for that in New York City but what we do need here is something that the above poster also states, something that will transform and make truly livable with apartments and shops and cultural venues nearby... bring life to a once shoddy area now even worse off because it's one big lifeless empty lot. I won't make any other political references outside of the main point of this forum, but things are a lot more complex then... government always bad, business always good.
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Kushner’s controversial One Journal Square project receives approval to bring 1,700 units to Jersey City :cheers:
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i can't wait until he builds this so we can storm it!
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I'm content with the 1,723 units. On a philosophical note, in rendering land, those folks are not social distancing and no masks!
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Of all the iterations, is this the worst base?
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as for the burning.. they say the fire of hell is just an ancient representation of how the universe (natural selection) seems to "burn away" all the ill-adapted variations of things.. trump is, in my most humble opinion, an ill-adapted variation, if you will ;) |
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Nice! What are the really high ones near it?
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808 Pavonia Avenue Towers and 30 Journal Square. There's actually a few towers missing in the area that I haven't gotten around to building.
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1 more tower remaining in that complex. I'm hoping URL P2, and P3 rise eventually (Urban Ready Living). Edit: yeah what rgarri said, but presently, Journal Squared P2 is the highest in the area via completion. |
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