Exactly.


Central Park is not above ground yet, except small part (core).


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I agree,

In the meantime, all of the nutjobs at SSC think that this tower has reached street level based upon an incorrect post here. That forum has really gone downhill.




Spectre0000 :haha::haha:

What Could Have Been: Norman Foster & Rogers Stirk Harbour’s Submissions For Nordstrom Tower, 217 West 57th Street

NIKOLAI FEDAK
AUGUST 17, 2015

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Rogers's tower looks like a better candidate for the potential Hudson Spire and Foster's tower would also fit in better on the Hudson Yards or maybe Midtown East when the full rezoning kicks in.

That being said, I feel like the current design for Nordstrom is the best fit but the other designs shouldn't completely go to waste either...

The spire ruins that Roger's tower, otherwise it's okay.

I don't mind that Nordstrom (probably) lost its spire although I did like it. If the roof ends up around 1550' that's awesome, roof height is obviously more important.

I wouldn't be surprised if the taller roof on Nirdstrom slopes like in the original proposal and therefore, an antenna wouldn't go with it.

That would be better than having a spire. Hopefully you're right, JR.

I agree. Rogers' proposal also slopes downward toward the park. Perhaps that's a feng shei element for Chinese buyers.

I hate that I'm at the edge of my seat yet again when it comes to this tower. I feel almost back to square 1 as to wondering what the final look will be.

Just a week ago, I just pulled out all my grey hairs and with news of a possible new look, I miraculously have more that I need to pull out.

All kidding aside... if no spire with height boost, I hope at least they go with a sloped roof like that orig design that JR has alluded to. :cheers:

Seriously, they just need to make up their freaking mind.

I do agree that no spire with a height boost would be cool, but if it doesn't go above the 1520-1550 range (which I'm not sure it can anyway with the height limit) then It's a little disappointing considering that spire did look really cool.

My guess is that we've basically seen the final design, and they're just tinkering with details, such as whether there will be a spire and what the parapet height will be.

Developer: Nordstrom Tower design still up in the air

Steve Cuozzo
August 18, 2015

What's with the spires, people?
 

I couldn't agree more, what an utterly pointless spire on an otherwise smart design with a slick façade

Cuozzo is full of it. The design leaked by Yimby is basically what will be built with possible tweaks.

I hope, but the spire being removed would be a pretty major tweak. It does make perfect sense from an economic standpoint though, Barnett for some idiotic reason doesn't want to pass the WTC (even though he really already has), so spending the money on some novelty pole doesn't seem like it would be in his best interest.

I agree though that I really hope they do something interesting with the roof, ie. sloping up to ~1600' would truly be awesome.

Did the Developer really say that or is that just Cuozzo! That is truly the final diagram as you JR mentioned. We can all relax now. Fianally.

I concur. Something completely different from what we've seen won't be built.

It's amazing!! Per June 2015 filed in DOB, an engineering report shows the design Yimby had revealed.

All I can say, with the constant changes in design, Extell is making Smith Gill and all the engineers involved really earning their $$. Lol.

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http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/BS...de=ES439710582

Or he's wasting his own.

I don't think that this design has changed at all but for minor variations in nearly two years. Gary is just playing games.