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bushman61988 Feb 4, 2013 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SDfan (Post 5998160)
^^Can we end the airport debate already? It's really inconsequential at this point.


Anyways, looks like that office tower in EV is moving forward with design permits. At 252ft in height its not too bad (I was hoping for 300ft). kpexpress care to share a few more tid-bits of information? Also, is anyone else sick of these 5-6 story projects on market? I feel like this is a serious under utilization of land-use on that street. Where are the towers? WHERE ARE THE TOWERS?

I totally agree, I really wish they would keep projects like these in the outskirts of dowtown or around the city by one of the Trolley Stations so it could be Transit Oriented development.

We need much higher density development along that Market Street cooridor

kpexpress Feb 4, 2013 7:51 AM

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Originally Posted by spoonman (Post 5998229)
Is the Cisterra Office tower going to be at 842 8th street or on Island? It would be great on 8th to revitalize that area, and add some height between the rest of DT and Smart Corner. Island would be cool to add more office to EV.

Also, is this Cisterra tower the same tower that Sempra MIGHT move into? I thought that one was where Cosmo was going?

Based on height and floor count, the Cisterra Office tower should be about the height of these buildings downtown...

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3257/3...9ce1cb98_m.jpg
http://www.apfc.org/_amiRealEstate/5...rp%20small.JPG

This project is being designed out of the office I work for. It is proposed on the same site that Cosmo tower was proposed (same developer), and will be the new headquarters for Sempra. This project is predicated on Sempra's lease decisions - they are considering a few different options I hear. From what I hear exposure is important to them. At their current location they asked to deviate from the PDO so they could have a larger sign (exposure) so having their logo and tower in every shot panning through the ballpark and broadcasted on a major tv station makes sense. Even if the rent is higher. There's some nice outdoor space at ground level and the fire station, as well as the other two buildings on the site are kept intact. Cool project.

TeaPartyClive Feb 5, 2013 5:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 5997578)
I'm assuming you're a teabagger?


"People here don't go that far."

......


:haha:



Ridership? Yeah, it's not an astronomical number, but it's not low either. It's ranked 28th in the nation. San Diego has about the same amount of passengers as the following airports:

DCA in Washington D.C. with 3 runways.
HNL in Honolulu, HI with 4 runways.
MDW in Chicago, IL with 5 runways.
TPA in Tampa, FL with 3 runways.


There are also numerous airports with less ridership than SAN that have multiple runways, including, but not limited to, the following:
PDX in Portland, OR with 3 runways.
STL in St. Louis, MO with 4 runways.
MCI in Kansas City, MO with 3 runways.
HOU in Houston, TX with 4 runways AND they move around 10 million people per year. San Diego moves almost 18 million.




Please, do some research before making outrageous claims. Oh wait, I guess teabaggers are good at that. If Rush Limbaugh or Sarah Palin didn't say it, it's not true.

Yeah funny guy, real funny. You like having crowds of people moving here and ruining the quality of life? San Diego WAS a nice place to live until we opened the border and were overrun and have politicians wasting money on things like bullet trains and skyscraper. The city is better off with less people here and all these projects do is encourage more. I'm sure you want a huge airport with flights all over so even MORE freeloaders hop on and come hear.

SDfan Feb 5, 2013 5:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TeaPartyClive (Post 6001444)
Yeah funny guy, real funny. You like having crowds of people moving here and ruining the quality of life? San Diego WAS a nice place to live until we opened the border and were overrun and have politicians wasting money on things like bullet trains and skyscraper. The city is better off with less people here and all these projects do is encourage more. I'm sure you want a huge airport with flights all over so even MORE freeloaders hop on and come hear.

Not to stereotype, but are you from East County?

Derek Feb 5, 2013 5:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TeaPartyClive (Post 6001444)
Yeah funny guy, real funny. You like having crowds of people moving here and ruining the quality of life? San Diego WAS a nice place to live until we opened the border and were overrun and have politicians wasting money on things like bullet trains and skyscraper. The city is better off with less people here and all these projects do is encourage more. I'm sure you want a huge airport with flights all over so even MORE freeloaders hop on and come hear.



Don't like it? Leave, and don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. :tup:


Also, *here, not "hear".

kpexpress Feb 5, 2013 6:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 6001457)
Don't like it? Leave, and don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. :tup:


Also, *here, not "hear".

Why is this Clive on a 'skyscraper' forum with this tone and view point.

good riddance.

KevinFromTexas Feb 5, 2013 7:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TeaPartyClive (Post 6001444)
Yeah funny guy, real funny. You like having crowds of people moving here and ruining the quality of life? San Diego WAS a nice place to live until we opened the border and were overrun and have politicians wasting money on things like bullet trains and skyscraper. The city is better off with less people here and all these projects do is encourage more. I'm sure you want a huge airport with flights all over so even MORE freeloaders hop on and come hear.

The construction of bullet trains, skyscrapers and airports is to support market demand, not to create it. It's Capitalism 101. These are not things that make people move to a place, quite the opposite, they are being built because people desire to live there, based on other things such as a good job market, good schools, low crime rate, etc.

"Opening the border' hahaha No.

AtlantaMustang Feb 5, 2013 8:25 AM

There's no way this account isn't a joke, right? The comments are too far out there to be real, yes? lol

kpexpress Feb 5, 2013 8:39 AM

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Originally Posted by AtlantaMustang (Post 6001584)
There's no way this account isn't a joke, right? The comments are too far out there to be real, yes? lol

It's not me. I don't have time for that.

Blue Sky updates are out. TERRIBLE.

kpexpress Feb 5, 2013 8:42 AM

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...at115544PM.png

Looks like the ground level has had some improvements, but the architecture turned terrible, we lost the fin on the roof, and the differentiation of higher and lower towers. And that dark brick is really bad.

SDfan Feb 5, 2013 2:06 PM

^^ Not the prettiest.

Are these likely to be approved?

kpexpress Feb 5, 2013 3:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SDfan (Post 6001712)
^^ Not the prettiest.

Are these likely to be approved?

not if i can do anything about it

Derek Feb 5, 2013 7:09 PM

We should probably just fight every project from here on out. We don't want any more freeloaders coming in from the border destroying our quality of life.

HurricaneHugo Feb 5, 2013 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas (Post 6001559)
The construction of bullet trains, skyscrapers and airports is to support market demand, not to create it. It's Capitalism 101. These are not things that make people move to a place, quite the opposite, they are being built because people desire to live there, based on other things such as a good job market, good schools, low crime rate, etc.

"Opening the border' hahaha No.

I love this quote so much I'm going to post it on facebook!

aerogt3 Feb 6, 2013 4:28 PM

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Originally Posted by HurricaneHugo (Post 6002568)
I love this quote so much I'm going to post it on facebook!

While his post is poorly written, he has a point on high speed rail, which was not built for "market demand." It is meeting voter demand for construction, not market demand for ridership. Quite dangerous, actually. And then the issue of cost vs. benefit.... The original voter proposal was for 33 billion.....

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This latest price estimate by CHSRA of $98.5 billion also says the ultimate price could go as high as $117.5 billion, depending on route and construction features.

spoonman Feb 7, 2013 2:30 AM

Good news...construction of Lane Field is scheduled to start in August, as financing is currently being finalized.

This is the first of two buildings for that site. The second is supposed to be taller, and a luxury brand hotel.

Pretty weak in terms of size and wow factor IMO, but this site has been a parking lot for 50 years, and I can't wait to see a shovel in the ground. :worship:


http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/...SD-waterfront/

http://media.utsandiego.com/img/phot...9efbd88a38372c

http://broadcastsandiego.com/wp-cont...ane-field3.jpg

http://www.welcometosandiego.com/wp-...d-1024x764.jpg

SDfan Feb 7, 2013 3:55 AM

I like. I hope the companion tower gets off the ground soon.

kpexpress Feb 7, 2013 6:56 AM

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Originally Posted by spoonman (Post 6004643)
Good news...construction of Lane Field is scheduled to start in August, as financing is currently being finalized.

This is the first of two buildings for that site. The second is supposed to be taller, and a luxury brand hotel.

Pretty weak in terms of size and wow factor IMO, but this site has been a parking lot for 50 years, and I can't wait to see a shovel in the ground. :worship:


http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/...SD-waterfront/

http://media.utsandiego.com/img/phot...9efbd88a38372c

http://broadcastsandiego.com/wp-cont...ane-field3.jpg

http://www.welcometosandiego.com/wp-...d-1024x764.jpg

Looks like a Steven Holl project, without the drama

HurricaneHugo Feb 7, 2013 7:32 AM

Not sure if it's better than the original...

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...erialFinal.jpg

spoonman Feb 7, 2013 3:26 PM

Before Lane field is finished, this Bosa tower should start construction. It's completion date is listed as 2016.

If 880 W Broadway and NBC ever get built, this area would be completely filled in.

Does anyone know if this is the next Bosa tower in line to be built?? :shrug:

http://sandiegocondosin92101.com/new...cific-highway/

http://sandiego.urbdezine.com/files/...endering-1.jpg

http://sandiego.urbdezine.com/files/...endering-3.jpg


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