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thenoflyzone Dec 30, 2018 1:43 AM

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Originally Posted by isaidso (Post 8421443)
Numbers would still need to jump 50% from 80 million to 120 million to match Australia. Our population (customer base) is 50% larger. :)

Australia's domestic market is 79 million seats/year.

Pinus Dec 30, 2018 8:46 AM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8421444)
Australia's domestic market is 79 million seats/year.

What is ours then?

I found this on the Stats Can website; almost 150 million passengers within Canada for 2017.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1...pid=2310025301

thenoflyzone Dec 30, 2018 1:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinus (Post 8421599)
What is ours then?

I found this on the Stats Can website; almost 150 million passengers within Canada for 2017.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1...pid=2310025301

65.6 million seats in 2018.

Not bad, considering our two largest cities are only 500 km apart, and the fact that Quebecers don't fly to the rest of the country as much.

https://www.anna.aero/2018/12/19/dom...astest-growth/

chris Dec 30, 2018 3:08 PM

For Australians to go anywhere domestically, they need to fly. The interstate highway network in Australia is not as developed as the inter/intra-provincial network in Canada. Driving between Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, Quebec City, London, Windsor, etc is very straightforward. Driving between Melbourne and Sydney, on the other hand, didn't even include a completed divided highway up until a year or two ago.

jmt18325 Dec 30, 2018 5:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad (Post 8421305)
No surprise there.

By and large we are a resource based and branch plant economy.

Our R&D figures are frankly appalling.

By most metrics, our vaunted health care system is merely mediocre at best, and increasingly difficult to access.

Our military is frankly an embarrassment (no offence to our brave servicemen). Procurement, equipment quality and combat readiness are the issues.

It’s crazy that you can take one of the most successful countries and evonomies on the planet and make it sound all bad.

casper Dec 30, 2018 9:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad (Post 8421305)
No surprise there.

By and large we are a resource based and branch plant economy.

Our R&D figures are frankly appalling.

By most metrics, our vaunted health care system is merely mediocre at best, and increasingly difficult to access.

Our military is frankly an embarrassment (no offence to our brave servicemen). Procurement, equipment quality and combat readiness are the issues.

We are making a comparison to Australia.

Australia is more of a resource based economy than we are.

On the R&D front we are good at funding university R&D. Where we fall behind it turning that into industrial innovation. Getting real products into real markets out of our R&D.

The worst possible university to work with on commercializing R&D is the UofT. Ironically it is one of the universities that gets the most funding. Some of the ones in the west are better.

dennis Dec 30, 2018 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Denscity (Post 8416314)
"He's got a guitar everybody down!!"
I mean come on!

I depends on how badly you play it. It could very well be borderline lethal. For example, I am banned from playing the piano at my aunts house.

thenoflyzone Dec 31, 2018 3:44 PM

AF increasing YYZ to 10x weekly next summer.

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Paris CDG – Toronto eff 15MAY19 Increase from 7 to 10 weekly, extra flights operated by 777-200ER
AF356 CDG1350 – 1610YYZ 772 D
AF386 CDG1700 – 1920YYZ 772 136

AF351 YYZ1825 – 0755+1CDG 772 D
AF393 YYZ2120 – 1050+1CDG 772 136
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...as-of-28dec18/

Alexcaban Dec 31, 2018 5:09 PM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8422273)
AF increasing YYZ to 10x weekly next summer.



https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...as-of-28dec18/

How shocking!! Mr. Ben Smith lives in Toronto.

whywhyzee Jan 1, 2019 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8422273)
AF increasing YYZ to 10x weekly next summer.



https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...as-of-28dec18/



Shaping up to be a good year for the international routes out of YYZ. LH to MUC upguaged, KLM has added an additional 2 weekly flights (now 9x weekly) for winter, BA is adding one additional LGW flight, LOT is adding 2 additional flights, Air Italy arrives, PAL goea daily on the A350, Austrian swaps for AC, adding 40% capacity on the route, and Rouge adds frequencies to destinations like ATH and TXL.

Predictably, as AC slows their expansion slightly and new routes become fewer, existing international services upguage to meet demand. I'm looking for LH and BA to expand next, FRA is generally absolutely jammed, and BA has seemingly hit their recent all time low in the wake of the loss of the WS codeshare, so there is nowhere to go but up.

What remains to be seen is how Jet Airways fares, they still transport a ton of pax to India, which remains an underserved market according to Anna Aero, and how Asia grows, with strong talk of a Japanese carrier finally announcing service.

Happy New Year to all!

isaidso Jan 1, 2019 8:45 AM

https://i.imgur.com/tNRtfBR.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/UygjNF3.jpg


https://www.oag.com/megahubs-international-index-2018

thenoflyzone Jan 1, 2019 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by isaidso (Post 8422904)

Posted this back in September......I even spoon fed you, remember ? ;)

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=6744

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=6770

J81 Jan 2, 2019 3:54 AM

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Originally Posted by whywhyzee (Post 8422744)
Shaping up to be a good year for the international routes out of YYZ. LH to MUC upguaged, KLM has added an additional 2 weekly flights (now 9x weekly) for winter, BA is adding one additional LGW flight, LOT is adding 2 additional flights, Air Italy arrives, PAL goea daily on the A350, Austrian swaps for AC, adding 40% capacity on the route, and Rouge adds frequencies to destinations like ATH and TXL.

Predictably, as AC slows their expansion slightly and new routes become fewer, existing international services upguage to meet demand. I'm looking for LH and BA to expand next, FRA is generally absolutely jammed, and BA has seemingly hit their recent all time low in the wake of the loss of the WS codeshare, so there is nowhere to go but up.

What remains to be seen is how Jet Airways fares, they still transport a ton of pax to India, which remains an underserved market according to Anna Aero, and how Asia grows, with strong talk of a Japanese carrier finally announcing service.

Happy New Year to all!


What is LH YYZ-MUC being upgauged to?

Alexcaban Jan 2, 2019 3:58 AM

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Originally Posted by J81 (Post 8423455)
What is LH YYZ-MUC being upgauged to?

Both YYZ/YUL-MUC going A359

J81 Jan 2, 2019 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Alexcaban (Post 8423462)
Both YYZ/YUL-MUC going A359

Nice! Thank you.

Airboy Jan 2, 2019 5:18 PM

Was told over the weekend that Porter and West Jet have a reciprocal agreement. Porter staff can hop on West Jet flights now.

ACT7 Jan 2, 2019 9:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whywhyzee (Post 8422744)
Shaping up to be a good year for the international routes out of YYZ. LH to MUC upguaged, KLM has added an additional 2 weekly flights (now 9x weekly) for winter, BA is adding one additional LGW flight, LOT is adding 2 additional flights, Air Italy arrives, PAL goea daily on the A350, Austrian swaps for AC, adding 40% capacity on the route, and Rouge adds frequencies to destinations like ATH and TXL.

Predictably, as AC slows their expansion slightly and new routes become fewer, existing international services upguage to meet demand. I'm looking for LH and BA to expand next, FRA is generally absolutely jammed, and BA has seemingly hit their recent all time low in the wake of the loss of the WS codeshare, so there is nowhere to go but up.

What remains to be seen is how Jet Airways fares, they still transport a ton of pax to India, which remains an underserved market according to Anna Aero, and how Asia grows, with strong talk of a Japanese carrier finally announcing service.

Happy New Year to all!

I suspect it will finally be JAL to NRT.

isaidso Jan 3, 2019 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8421444)
Australia's domestic market is 79 million seats/year.

I rounded 79 million up to 80 million. Being a nation with 50% more people (potential customers) Canada would need roughly 120 million seats/year to equal them..

isaidso Jan 3, 2019 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8423206)
Posted this back in September......I even spoon fed you, remember ? ;)

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=6744

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=6770

Isn't the only I posted for 2018 vs 2017 for the one you posted? :koko:

thenoflyzone Jan 3, 2019 2:49 AM

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Originally Posted by isaidso (Post 8424209)
I rounded 79 million up to 80 million. Being a nation with 50% more people (potential customers) Canada would need roughly 120 million seats/year to equal them..

We don't have to equal anyone. This isn't a linear equation. If that were the case, China and India would be # 1 and #2.

All the countries below Canada in that top 15 list are more populous than Canada, btw.

So your notion of Canada being laggard among developed countries is somewhat flawed.


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