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The spellings that Martin Pal pointed out (Hollow Way and Larabee) have been corrected/changed. San Vicente appears to make it as far as Santa Monica Boulevard, but it's still Clark Street above. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original www.historicmapworks.com/www.historicmapworks.com |
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Here is a 1930s photo taken from the opposite direction. https://i.imgur.com/bgZJcfe.jpg?1 http://manhattanbeachhistorical.org/ The small building on the extension looks similar from either direction. |
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The pic is fuzzy but her charm shows through none-the less. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/Ro3u9w.jpg DETAIL There is an earlier post on the 'Forsyth Memorial School for Girls' HERE. It later became the Evergreen Hostel. I'll post this here for people who don't bother with links. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/blYEOE.png gsv It looks like it's brimming with ghosts. You can also read about the old school/hostel HERE. __ |
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https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/IVQOQ0.jpg EBAY "Cor. Harratt and Clark St West Hollywood, Aug 20, 1932." HERE'S A CLOSER LOOK. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/uqHRbN.jpg On the back, it also said "Century Cactus in Parsonage lot." So what parsonage (CHURCH] do you think they're talking about? :shrug: __ |
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APRIL 1935 https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/K8uFKy.jpg DETAIL I would be soooooo lost. The elusive mega-oak is also mentioned in this booklet. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...923/DRJwYk.jpg books.google but Google only lets me see is this. :( (below) https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/6ODMy6.jpg books.google Page 115 especially sounds interesting. :previous: (is there any way to get around these page limitations?) Work your magic odinthor :) _ |
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http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original mil.library.ucsb.edu Flight ID: C-11351, Frame: 9-8, Date: May 2, 1947 Looking at Historic Aerials, the current wide "S" curve of San Vicente between Melrose and Beverly only got built between 1964 and 1972. Here's roughly the same area today. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...8.jpg~original Google Maps |
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But . . . a slight recalibration of my wand brings us this . . . bad news . . . https://s26.postimg.org/u3tszeapl/OakBurn1.jpg Google Book Search From https://s26.postimg.org/kja6cjg8p/OakBurn2.jpg So, e_r, darn it [kicks at dirt in frustration], I guess you can put your compass into the drawer again, and we can throw our hiking boots back into the closet . . . :( |
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Interesting, Bristolian! Wikipedia says that at the time of the photograph above, there were only two beaches in LA county open to black people: Bruce's Beach, and the Ink Well in Santa Monica. But the girls can't be at Bruce's Beach, nor at the Ink Well, as both of these were north of the Manhattan Beach Pier. So what does this mean? Are the Japanese ladies above defiantly sunbathing on a whites-only beach? Or did the segregation laws only block black people from the beach, but not Asians? Quote:
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https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4793/...4a5a955e_o.png https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4798/...6d825cf7_b.jpgusc https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4781/...8627fbb0_b.jpgusc Clifton House was torn down in 1923 and its replacement, the Broadway-Temple Building, was built in 1926 and designed by none other than those titans of LA architecture Walker & Eisen. It lasts til 1957 when it is torn down for the Neutra & Alexander Hall of Records. Here's a shot of the Bway-Temple building ca. 1948—seems that 229, the address of the News Service, is between the cocktails and bail bonds; thus 229 is the entrance and the Service takes up some part if not most of the upstairs.. https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4798/...9131d2d1_o.png Calstatelib |
Amazing photos, Beaudry! :awesome:
I tried to visit the Calstatelib link you posted below, but the site would not accept my Los Angeles library card. It seems that you require a California State library card to gain access, and such a card is not available to the general public, only to state employees - is that correct? Quote:
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But I don't believe the ordinances were actual laws. (more like locally enforced 'rules' :shrug: maybe) There's an excellent indepth post on Bruce's Beach and The Inkwell by tovangar2 HERE "State and local laws, from 1896 through the 20s ensured equal access for all at the beaches, but that was far from what was happening." FROM T2 POST 32412 In a nutshell: “The Inkwell” (Santa Monica, CA) refers to a 200-foot stretch of beach where black patrons were allowed in the 1920s, one of the only beaches of the kind in the county. It was born out of a tragic event* in Topanga Canyon and became very popular among the black community. Nick Gabaldon, who is reportedly the first Black American surfer, also frequented the beach. Gabaldon unfortunately died in a surfing accident at 24 years old. from BGLH NICK GABALDON https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/OdZ1xW.jpg surfline :previous: Who's the lucky girl? ;) *So what was the tragic event in Topanga Canyon? ______________________________________________________ Bruce’s Beach (Manhattan Beach, CA), another LA-area beach, was established by Willa and Charles Bruce, who recognized the issue of segregation in the surrounding area and the lack of beach property available to black locals. However, racial tensions caused for the eventual demise of the resort. The beach was renamed in 2007 to pay homage to its origins and the progress that the initiative brought to the area. from BGLH Willa Bruce at Bruce's Beach. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/wU8mX6.jpg DAILY BREEZE _ |
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African American historian Alison Rose Jefferson states the following: "More or less, people could go wherever they wanted at the public beach areas. There were places that might not serve them, but they could walk along the beach." So perhaps the above applied to the Japanese Girls Clubs - you could go to whatever beach you wanted to, but you had no guarantee against being harassed. Quote:
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The above-mentioned historian, Alison Rose Jefferson, says that much of the information floating around about Inkwell is inaccurate. If you wish to read an article that she has edited for accuracy, please read this one: http://laist.com/2013/11/20/photos_v...to.php#photo-1 |
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Let's see...go here http://www.library.ca.gov/ and up top it'll say "collections" which takes you here http://www.library.ca.gov/collections/ and from there choose "online collections" http://www.library.ca.gov/collection...e-collections/ and from there click "picture catalog" which takes you here http://catalog.library.ca.gov/F/JD6T...s_handle=GUEST and THEN!!! where it says "type word or phrase," there you go. Go nuts! If you're after downtown pix, you'd do well to add "Hylen" or "Reagh" to the search field as they shot a lot down there. Here's something noirishers should know if they don't already—Cal State Library recently reupped their images with the ability to download as a large tiff. Totally changes the game. For example, I'd always known this image by Hylen to look like this https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4790/...ed807f16_o.png but now you can blow these up to have detail like https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4779/...a0f203df_o.png I know, incredible, right? |
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I know you cropped the photo you posted to highlight the building where the City News Service was, but the entire photo is even more impressive - just look at the steps of the courthouse building in the foreground! https://i.imgur.com/RlCaHb4.jpg http://catalog.library.ca.gov/F/R4SM...004&format=999 At Flyingwedge's suggested, I searched by entering the terms "broadway" and "temple", and the following photo showed up... What a great picture! Not only can you see the City News Service building, but you can also see (the remains of) Court Flight at the bottom left of the photo! https://i.imgur.com/Drjslno.jpg http://catalog.library.ca.gov/F/R4SM...002&format=999 |
Map of downtown LA's hills?
(Disclaimer for any lost soul who might stumble across this post: NONE of the "maps" in this post are real or accurate, they are quick, mock-up images I made for illustration purposes ONLY!)
Hey, folks! I was wondering if anyone here possesses a map - or aerial photo - that shows the location and boundaries of the now-gone hills in downtown, LA? Something that looks similar to this, maybe? https://i.imgur.com/AZrqn0m.jpgGoogle Maps Or perhaps something that looks like this: https://i.imgur.com/ufxxYGZ.jpgNASA.gov Certainly, some of the old hills are more easy to understand, but with say, Normal Hill - all I know is that the Public Library stands on what used to be Normal Hill. But I have no idea whether Normal Hill covered one square block or six square blocks! And as to Poundcake Hill, I'm pretty much completely lost! I did do a Google search, but pretty much came up with squat. Even this article -The Lost Hills of Downtown Los Angeles - only gives very vague descriptions. Does anyone have an image - either map or photograph - that shows the boundaries of these respective hills? :help: |
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At one time I put some effort into trying to find any indication that the name "Bunker Hill" for the area preceded the development, without success. I indeed once found a map which was older than the development, and which displayed the name Bunker Hill where one would expect it . . . but then realized that that name had been written in on the map at some unknown time after the map had been created, so was inconclusive as evidence. My hasty check of the Los Angeles Times just now showed no mention of Bunker Hill at all until 1882 (the Times started publication in 1881); and, checking the early usages that year of the term, they are all specifically referring to the street Bunker Hill Avenue, not to the general area. And so, here is the challenge to all Los Angeles historians: What is the date of the first usage of the term "Bunker Hill" for the area we now know by that name? _______ Edit add: Here are the two earliest references I can find in the L.A. Times to Bunker Hill as an area rather than as a specific street; and if the Holtons lived on Bunker Hill Avenue, then the first, earlier, item should be excluded: https://s26.postimg.org/qy0xk9vq1/Bu_Hi.jpg L.A. Times via ProQuest via CSULB Library. |
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