![]() |
I'm not sure about other cities, but Air Canada has a huge radio campaign in Vancouver (I've hear the ad so many times), all about Europe (ie. promoting European destinations). I assume it is the same ad they would be using on radio in other cities, specifcally eastern ones. It's hilrious being here in Vancouver, because none of the destinations they mention in the ad are served from YVR lol, they (Athens, Paris, Nice, Barecelone, Rome, Vienna). But obviously they are really pushing connections in YYZ and YUL. The only 4 European destinations that AC serves from YVR (DUB, LHR, FRA, and ZRH) were not in the ad. It's like they did it on purpose lol jk.
They are really pushing Europe hard right now. It obviously is a pillar of strength while other markets are still quite depressed. |
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Lynx are taking a page out of Swoop & Flair's playbooks and having select same-plane, one-stop services, including:
YEG-YHZ YEG-YYT YYC-YYT Currently all one-stops stop at YYZ. https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...845604713.html "YYT major expansion" is quite the exaggeration as the frequency's the same, but the number of destinations accessible on the same ticket triples. |
Quote:
|
Quote:
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Reposted from the Atlantic Canada Airport Thread:
Quote:
|
Quote:
EDIT: LOL and now this warrants it's own YHZ 'major expansion' press release: https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...823609251.html I have zero issues with issuing a PR for a 'destinations offered expansion', but calling something 'major' with ZERO new flight frequencies can hardly be seen as 'major'. |
YYZ handled 5.2 million pax in Q1 of 2022, which is +384.5% vs the same period last year.
https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...862943727.html Also yesterday marked the inaugural 4N flight to YYZ routing YXY-YZF-YYZ. https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...882562147.html 4N resumed YXY-YZF-YOW a couple of weeks prior. |
Quote:
So I guess it hasn't been "completely" cut yet. |
Quote:
I wonder what the holdup is with YXU, and why Flair hasn't expanded there at all and Swoop is so slow to restore services there compared to other cities. They've actually added quite a few daily flights out of Pearson, which they did not have prior to the pandemic. With London's population now over 400,000 and rapidly growing, I think the airlines are neglecting London at their own peril - but I also wonder how much effort YXU management is putting into attracting commercial airlines there. I visit my family in London multiple times per year and I really, really, really do not like having to fly through Pearson. I went to London a couple of weeks ago, I had to fly to Toronto and then wait over three hours for a Robert Q bus; there were about 20-25 of us waiting for the Robert Q, which tells me there's quite a bit of unmet demand for flights to London. There's absolutely no way to get to K-W Airport from London without driving, and getting to Pearson from London is not fun, particularly with all the construction on the 401 around Milton and Mississauga. |
^ Flair probably chose YKF because of it's proximity to both Toronto and London. Also the population of Kitchener-Waterloo is slightly greater than that of London, which helps as well.
That's really all that separates YKF from YXU in terms of airline service. Flair. And inversely, YXU has AC Express, whereas YKF doesn't, again because of the latter's proximity to Toronto. It all makes sense, really. Besides, YXU has always been the busier airport in terms of pax. We'll see if that changes with Flair at YKF. |
Quote:
AC are planning on brining back YXU-YUL for summer 2023 on a daily DH4. YHZ-YXU I'm sure will come back on an ULCC, same with YWG-YXU. Don't forget, not only are Flair now all-in on YKF (also skipping out currently on YHM too), but they've also surrounded London with the addition of YQG. With the DH3 retirement, I unfortunately can't see AC bringing back YXU-YOW, even though they flew the route for over 40 years. That would leave it to either a 2-4x weekly ULCC or Porter entering YXU with a daily DH4 to feed the future YOW jet base or someone like PAL or Pascan pushing further into Ontario. Being in YOW, I can relate to YXU's slower recovery than other airports. On the international front, by the time the gov't green lighted YXU and the last batch of international airports to handle international flights again it was too late in the winter sun season. Those are all loaded up for next winter at least on TS & WG. |
Lynx launched YYJ yesterday 2x/week to YYC: https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...840619387.html
Swoop launched YSJ yesterday 4x weekly to YYZ: https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...837851365.html |
Quote:
Something run by GO Transit connecting the main GO stations in both Kitchener and Hamilton (and perhaps VIA Aldershot) would be very helpful. |
Quote:
This is on top of daily YYZ-HND, but downgauged to 788. Other changes: YVR-SYD increase to 10x weekly YVR-BNE reduce to 5x weekly YVR-AKL increase to 5x weekly YYZ-BOM resumes with 4x weekly YYZ-ICN reduce to 4x weekly YUL-LIM resume with 2x weekly AC86/87 YYZ-LIM reduce to 3x weekly |
https://twitter.com/FlyYKF/status/1525196390355324930
"Progress is moving ⏩FAST FORWARD⏩ with your YKF #airport boarding lounge expansion, #WaterlooRegion! Take a peek, the space is starting to really take shape. We're loving the bright, airy feel of it - aren't you? " 3:28 PM · May 13, 2022 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSqVxehX...jpg&name=large |
WestJet has removed YEG-YUL from its summer schedule. YUL now down to YYZ, YYC, YVR and YHZ on WS.
|
Quote:
You’d think Canada’s second largest airline wouldn’t drop a route from the second largest city in the country to the fifth largest that easily, and yet…. |
Quote:
Surprisingly... Swoop is flying YOW-YWG and WestJet is as well this summer...albeit I don't think WS is daily... but they did reintroduce this route 2/3x weekly throughout the pandemic... which AC has neglected. Good for WS on this! |
Quote:
WS Group are now substantially larger at YOW than YUL…but that’s not saying much. EDIT: I forgot to mention AC will soon be restarting YOW-YWG 1x daily on a CR9. On a separate note, did any YYZers on here catch the Samaritan’s Purse DC-8 today? I saw it on tv. |
Airline group calls on Ottawa to abandon current health measures at airports:
Regular travel and current public health measures can't coexist: Canadian Airports Council -Passengers are being kept on planes for over an hour due to a lack of space at airports, council says Laura Osman · The Canadian Press · Posted: May 17, 2022 International arrivals at Canadian airports are so backed up, people are being kept on planes for over an hour after they land because there isn't enough space for the long lineups of travellers, says the Canadian Airports Council. The council blames COVID-19 protocols and has called on the federal government to do away with random tests and public health questions at customs to ease the serious delays passengers face when they arrive in Canada. The extra steps mean it takes four times longer to process people as they arrive than it did before the pandemic, said the council's interim president Monette Pasher. That was fine when people weren't travelling, she said, but now it's become a serious problem. "We're seeing that we clearly cannot have these public health requirements and testing at our borders as we get back to regular travel," she said. The situation is particularly bad at Canada's largest airport, Toronto Pearson International, where passengers on 120 flights were held in their planes Sunday waiting for their turn to get in line for customs.... https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tra...lays-1.6456655 |
PortsToronto released their annual report. Contained on page 42 are YTZ's pax stats.
https://www.portstoronto.com/getatta...port-2021.aspx Thenoflyzone, here are the stats for you to update the wiki going back to 2019: Quote:
|
^ thanks for that.
2019 and 2020 numbers were already posted in the previous annual statements and are on wiki. I'll add 2021. |
Quote:
Top 4 airports - International (incl. Transborder) passenger numbers in Q1 2022. YYZ 3.2 million YUL 1,471,908 YVR 1,160,239 YYC 661,750 |
JetBlue axes Vancouver-Boston route until Fall, JFK to YVR still a go though.
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/jetblue-nixes-...ston-1.5909786 "Vancouver will still become the airline's first Canadian destination next month, however, as a planned route between Vancouver International Airport and New York-JFK "remains on track to launch June 9." |
Swoop won't have in-seat power or wifi on their 737 MAX aircraft, making it on-par with Flair and Lynx.
I still don't see any routes operating on the MAX yet. The website does indicate some current flight schedules might have the aircraft type change. https://www.flyswoop.com/boeing-737-MAX/ |
Several new international routes were launched from airports in Quebec this week !
Firstly, Air France inaugurated service to YQB on May 17. Operating 3x weekly with A332 until October 27. This is an amazing score for YQB, and even though TS is on the route, hopefully both of them can co-exist. https://corporate.airfrance.com/en/n...nd%20Vancouver. Short video of the inaugural landing at YQB. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhH8BhTRj9w Also, AC inaugurates YUL-SAN and YUL-MXP today. (The last time Montreal had MXP service was probably in the 80s and 90s, with Alitalia at YMX.) SEA service begins later this month on May 31. That will bring to 4 the number of non stops AC will have from YUL to the US west coast. (6 if we count PHX and LAS). And let's not forget Transat, which inaugurated YUL-LAX on May 17 (now scheduled year round), YUL-SFO on May 19, and YUL-AMS earlier in the month on May 5. https://canadiantravelnews.ca/2022/0...o-los-angeles/ Also, TS released its full winter 2022-2023 schedule. https://canadianaviationnews.wordpre...-2023-program/ |
Quote:
Good for Air France for giving YQB some love though. |
I'm happy it is AF that is providing service to YQB, gives them an international airline prestige and it's a vote of confidence that an international airline would use their metal on a route like this. AC wouldn't have made the first move on starting this route, but maybe they will jump in now, who knows. AF booted AC off the YVR-CDG route, AC discontinued it after COVID but AF kept it up, which is more preferrable for me anyways. I hope people in YVR and YQB support AF for providing them with non stop service, and shun AC which makes them connect in YYZ or YUL...
|
Quote:
Same for WS. (YHZ-Europe being the exception, again) Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Interesting, Flair has an exclusivity on certain routes out of Waterloo.
https://globalnews.ca/news/8848749/f...t-exclusivity/ Not certain why WestJet wants to run its Swoop brand on some of these, but they should be given the opportunity if they want to operate the route. WestJet/Swoop was told they were not permitted to operate Waterloo-Halifax or Waterloo-Edmonton. |
YKF must be desperate for flights to be signing deals like that. I would rather hitch my wagon to the WestJet train if I was an airport authority.
|
This is interesting.
And even though the article mentions that experts think there is nothing illegal here, I would tend to disagree. This isn't YTZ, a busy airport where the lone terminal building was owned by one carrier. This is an underserved airport and an airport authority putting restrictions on where a carrier can/can't fly. And that, in my view, is illegal. An airport authority's main goal is to run an airport. Not dictate to airlines where they can/can't operate to. This goes well above their purview. The CTA should investigate the legality of this ASAP. At the very least it is anti-competitive, and at most, downright illegal. Neither of which is in the best interest of Canadians. |
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
It is kind of a neat concept for a smaller airport to build a little stability with a route. The fact it is time limited makes a lot of sense of course.
Basically YKF is saying we have a better shot at giving our clients better service with a carrier having some time to get their feet under them. Make no mistake that Swoop only wants to talk about these routes now so that they can hurt Flair, not in the best interest of the Waterloo patrons. This is just a different way of going about a route subsidy in a sense. |
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
The article mentions that Flair isn't the first airline to take advantage of this kind of agreement at YKF. The other must have been Sunwing to CUN (assuming it's not WestJet to YYC, since they're the ones complaining !). Now that this is public knowledge, I'm very interested to see what the CTA will do. Airport authorities shouldn't have the right to dictate to airlines where they can or can't fly. Having a subsidy or discount policy on new destinations makes sense. First come first served. That I get. Plenty of airports do it. But exclusivity agreements are pushing it, according to me. YKF should have told Swoop, "ok. You want to launch YEG or YHZ, that's fine, but I'm not giving you any subsidies since we already have an operator on both those routes". Nothing more. |
Allowing exclusive rights to a route is hardly a new thing. Prior to deregulation, it was the norm, and it still exists for a lot of international routes. Similarly, I have a hard time seeing what exactly would be illegal here. It's one business making a deal with another. It's no more anticompetitive than McDonald's only serving Coke.
This offer was an attempt by the airport to attract and sustain service, and it was available to all airlines. The fact that WestJet choose not to take it is their fault. |
Quote:
Not by airport authorities. A Canadian carrier has the right to fly between any two points in Canada. An airport authority refusing that right based solely on an exclusivity agreement is nonsense in my book. Quote:
|
Quote:
YKF is not a federally owned airport, so the federal government can't force access that way (not does it do so at YTZ, which they do own through the Port Authority). And domestic air travel is deregulated... forcing route competition would be a form of regulation. You could argue that the agreement is invalid because it is anticompetitive, but these sorts of limited exclusivity agreements are common in other industries and I think it would be a tough argument for Swoop to make that it is against public interest. |
Victoria (YYJ) closed to commercial flights due to police incident but no details....
https://www.timescolonist.com/local-...celled-5402622 |
No details on this police incident at YYJ. Airport is closed to commercial flights due to police call for service.
https://www.timescolonist.com/local-...celled-5402622 |
Quote:
Point 1. Quote:
https://otc-cta.gc.ca/eng/notice-ind...es-air-service Quote:
|
All times are GMT. The time now is 11:24 AM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.