Back from YYZ; once again the process through the airports was generally quite impressive.

I get they probably don't want 6 787s just sitting around, but they could still get the utilization at LGW (which is already year-round).

As nofly mentioned, it's going to be hard to fill 787s to France in the dead of winter with just a month of advance sales (even pre-COVID). But I guess odder things have happened this year. :shrug:

In this time of nothing but route cuts, PAL Airlines announce a new route and two new destinations. They're launching a 5x weekly (X26) YYT-YQM-YOW route. The YQM-YOW leg replaces AC service (PD fly the route too and will be back at some point), and will launch once travel restrictions to Atlantic Canada are eased.

https://www.palairlines.ca/wp-conten...0.08.20-EN.pdf

Probably will not cover the entire cost of the flight, but cargo needs to move between Europe and Canada even if people are not.

True enough, but if WestJet really intends to fly to CDG in the winter they might as well open it up for sale ASAP to gain some bookings. They currently have the advantage of being the only ones serving Western Canada to CDG with AF not operating YVR this winter.

YYC July stats are out.

Domestic: 278,515 -78%
Transborder: 8,347 -97.5%
International: 1,978 -98.8%
July Total: 288,740 -83.3%

Exceeded my expectations again. I suspect August will be just a little higher. Nice to see international numbers again too.

ADM laying of 30% of their staff at YUL and YMX. The press release provides an update on construction projects as well. They need more money to complete the REM train station. Most other projects are on hold.

https://www.admtl.com/sites/default/...203_ENG_VF.pdf

Swoop to being ops at YYZ in late October. No word on destinations yet, except for:

Notice the omission of transborder. Also, I wonder if this is WestJet exodus from YHM v2.0 or will be complimentary?

https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...856731935.html

Ops at YHM will continue, as per in the article you posted: “Swoop will continue to serve Hamilton as part of its network.“

Hearing rumours that Sunwing vacations might be selling some seats on some of these Swoop flights from YYZ.

Just like WS mainline did when they moved most, but not all ops to YYZ. I wonder though if Swoop will reduce YHzm beyond existing COVID-19 reductions or if things stay status quo?

I think swoop will definitely continue to serve the domestic market from YHM (there is CLEARLY demand). I just hope they don't pull a WestJet and move the vast majority of their operations to YYZ. Swoop has been a huge boost for the airport.

I am, however, very interested to see which domestic routes swoop will do from YYZ and how they will target Flair. I wouldn't be half surprised if Swoop jumps in on Flairs new routes (Saskatoon, Regina & Fort Mc.)

Does anyone know how to get passenger numbers between 2 airports? Air Canada and Westjet do not want to give it.

Rightfully so. That's usually privileged information only airlines, airport authorities or the government have access to. If you work in the industry, you could pay and get membership to OAG.com, which would give you the answers you're looking for. Otherwise, it's not gonna happen, at least not for current year numbers.

Check StatsCan. They might have some data compiled from previous years. I know they have O&D data between Canada-US airports (2016 being the most recent year I believe). They're very slow to update these kinds of lists.

WS loaded a revised CDG schedule last night, and looks like the season will end October 23, meaning it will operate for a total of 2 months. It's also only flying once weekly after September 6.

No changes made to LGW, as YVR-LGW is still scheduled in October.

Shouldn’t surprise anyone.

Used to see that kind of info tossed around a bit on the forums on Flyertalk.com but I haven't been on there in a few years so I don't know if the industry people that frequented the site are still around. Ben Smith from Air Canada used to post a lot on there when he was just a regular VP.

I don't need this year's numbers. However, something within the last 5 years would be good.

Stats Can used to publish O&D stats on domestic city pairs until 1997. Air carriers handling fewer than 250k pax per year were exempt from reporting. I guess the airlines successfully lobbied them to stop. Any city pairs in particular that you’re interested in? I can extrapolate from 1997 data to 2019 that I still remember.

Ottawa U’s library had copies of them that I would literally memorize from cover-to-cover in the late 90s when I didn’t feel like studying. Would not be surprised if they still have them as they can the annual report going all the way back to the late 70s. Did you know until the late 80s that YUL-YOW O&D traffic was around 100,000 a year. In 2019, I bet it was no higher than 5,000 thanks to the ridiculous fares AC charges on this monopoly route.

Recent transborder stats are easy to find thanks to the Americans. I believe it’s the US DOT T-100 report. I have accessed that before.

A few different ones, but to start, Calgary-Edmonton, Calgary-Regina, and Calgary-Winnipeg