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Horton Plaza movie theater is going down:
Horton Plaza movie theater closes after 33-year run in downtown San Diego; more closures coming If anyone wants to catch a flick one last time you've got until the 27th. Stockdale is also apparently saying the only things staying from the old Horton Plaza are Jimbo’s, 24 Hour Fitness, the Lyceum Theatre and Macy’s. I got a feeling the Macy's might go too, but the others might have a good chance at making the transition to this new tech plaza (at least if Jimbo's will stop suing everything in sight) |
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Thanks for posting. I’m confused about the whole Jimbo’s thing. They were told they will be staying in the new development, but they are suing?? I do hope Macy’s stays, it’s the only department store left downtown. By the way, I have to laugh after reading the comments on the story. What kind of old, cranky trolls are these replying? The comments are so stupid, are these people even located in the country much less in San Diego? They seem clueless. Here’s a taste: jrc92024: “In a few years downtown will be back to where it was in the late 70s where it was full of homeless, hookers and druggies and do dangerous that it was a ghost town after dark.” Gale Anderson: “Downtown is regressing to where it was before Horton Plaza. Bars, peep shows, tattoo parlors, flop houses. Off limits to military personnel.” Peep shows? I live downtown and can’t say I’ve seen a peep show anywhere. And off limits to the military, wtf? This is why SD is so backwards in many things, politicians cater to ignorant morons like this. |
Spire looks nice and iconic!
Much better than the "Wings of Freedom" proposal we had some years back |
Does anyone know if there any plans to redevelop Pacific Highway along the waterfront? The city at least needs to reduce the number of lanes.
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Great news about 7th and Market, what did they mean by "end of the year"? Is that Q3 or Q4... Lets get going on that and Seaport now! So tired of waiting.
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Does this mean downtown is regressing though? Of course not. People like to use the homeless problem (which is also very real) as a reason to bash on city council or downtown in general because they find it intimidating. They also probably haven't gotten around to many other cities before. |
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Hahaha it’s NOT off limits to military personnel. A bunch of my navy friends are out there all the time |
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https://www.lajollalight.com/sdljl-f...v07-story.html |
11th and B Proposal:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7861/...78f9680a_z.jpg And once again, the 497' you see below is the mean sea level height, not the building itself. It's the reason the skyline looks like a freshly mowed lawn. https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7927/...43a7241b_z.jpg https://civicsd.com/wp-content/uploa...18_reduced.pdf |
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Source: friend who's a naval officer. |
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https://i.imgur.com/D5LnrZ1.jpg In addition there are the TERPS surfaces that if violated the FAA will shut down the various guidance systems, meaning aircraft would have no way to land in bad weather. https://i.imgur.com/BgCyTA2.jpg https://i.imgur.com/FlKRCuL.jpg And finally there are the Part 77 surfaces that the FAA prefers there be no violations of, but can't really do anything if penetrated other than require you add red lights to obstructions. https://i.imgur.com/euYKSvz.jpg Yeah... there's a reason the FAA doesn't like KSAN very much. Anyway, it's CA state law says that anything penetrating the Part 77 surfaces can't be higher than 500' AGL (hence why 1 America Plaza tops out there). The rest is up to the city council, why seem to have set the 500' above sea level rule (Seaport Village says their new tower will be 500' tall, so presumably council has given them some indications they're going to allow an exception). |
After decades of suburban sprawl, San Diego eyes big shift to dense development
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To understand this whole mess, know the only thing related to off airport construction the FAA is legally entitled to do is demand a new projects give them notice before construction begins so the FAA can determine if the effect air navigation or not. If this new construction penetrates a TSS or TERPS surface the FAA can issue a Determination of Hazard to Air Navigation and then... nothing. There is no enforcement mechanism at the federal level to prevent you from building a skyscraper three feet from the end of the runway. Now in the event that some dastardly municipality decides to permit a hazardous structure the FAA has two options. First, the FAA gives out billions each year to improve airports nationwide. If a local government decides to take them, which they love to do since it's free money, the FAA require they pass laws stating that they won't permit buildings the FAA determines as hazards. The FAA could, in theory, sue for that money back if a city decides to ignore these agreement. In reality, that concept is on slightly shaky legal ground and so the FAA has never actually used that nuclear option. The second choice, and the one the FAA always ends up using, is to require the airport to adjust its flight procedures until the FAA determines the hazard is mitigated. Usually this means requiring better visibility in bad weather conditions, so that it can be guaranteed that pilots will be able to see and avoid the obstacle. This is bad for the pilots, since now they can't perform certain maneuvers in rain or fog and the like. What Sunroad did was bribe a city employee to issue a building permit after the FAA issued a Determination of Hazard to Air Navigation, in violation of the laws San Diego passed after agreeing to take federal money for their airports. They did this because they knew the FAA wasn't going to go full armageddon for a 20 foot height violation, and they assumed no one would notice or care if the FAA changed Montgomery Field's flight procedures. They almost got away with it too, no one noticed anything until the tower was already under construction and the FAA posted notice that they were adjusting the weather minimums in a few months. Well unknown to Sunroad San Diego has one of the largest and most active communities of small aircraft pilots in the nation, who were absolutely furious at being taken advantage of. They threatened to sue the city for their loss of use and enjoyment of the airport, and they city's legal council advised that it would be extremely liable considering the building was illegally issued a permit. The mayor issued a stop work order, Sunroad tried to claim everything was fine because the city had issued it a permit, but eventually Sunroad was forced to tear down the roof of their building. They tried suing claiming the city had mislead them and that the city didn't need to force them to comply with FAA rules, but when all that happened became clear that didn't fly very well in the courtroom. So as you can see even in that situation all the enforcement ultimately went through city hall, with the FAA's only role being to put up with Sunroad's begging pleas to reconsider their ruling after the city ordered them lop off the top two stories of their brand new building. In any case the FAA will almost certainly issue a Determination of Non-Hazard to Air Navigation to the Seaport Village Tower since there are already similar sized buildings closer to the aiport. They already utilized that second option decades ago, so there's no need to change anything on this project's account. |
That airport pisses me off.
Just like the Seattle one or the Canary Wharf one in London... |
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