^ agree, and I would hate to see it happen in its current plan. This kind of project should promote connectivity to the lakefront but the giant base it sits on seems like a giant wall to the rest of the south loop.
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That's a mic drop if I've ever seen one
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Yea, just gross. Montgomery Ward just rolled over.
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Tonight (July 15) at 6 pm at McCormick Place W184:
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^It's comical that the rendering illustrates such tall towers as if people are going to move here in droves. Chicago is slowly filling its other luxury towers in more interesting and connected areas of the city. What is the appeal of living here beyond being close to the park and lake?
To be clear, I would love to see continued quality skyscraper development and our skyline extend south, this just seems ludicrous. |
Things I learned at tonight's meeting:
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All but 2 of the highrises in the One Central renders are in subarea B, but subarea B has a FAR of 1.7. Subarea C has a FAR of 7.59, but it is long and thin and much smaller than the other subareas. Additionally (not mentioned tonight) is that the view corridors cover at least half to two-thirds of subarea C - it's pretty worthless unless the "rights" can be transferred to subarea B. I did some internet detective work and found that the PD331 subarea 4E that was mentioned only allows "unenclosed" parking, which I assume means a surface lot. One Central (and also the Lucas museum before it) showed a parking structure here. And my detective work also found the IL compiled statutes that authorized McPier to acquire the property/air rights but I see nothing about them being allowed to transfer it to a private party. Hmm. I left the meeting with the sense that this thing is dead in the water unless they can throw the existing PDs out and get a new one through the city council. Anyone want to lay odds? I certainly don't have much faith. |
^ this thing will have a chance if in exchange for the deal they got from Springfield (~$5 billion) they provide a significant amount of affordable housing (>35%). Otherwise good luck getting approval from any resident or alderfolk
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I just went back and looked at my photos from the event and compared them to the slides on page 1 of this thread. The southernmost high rise is in PD 331, so it's a no-go.
It also looks like they are siting 4 high rises in subarea C, not 2. PD 499 https://gisapps.cityofchicago.org/gi..._pds/PD499.pdf PD 883 https://gisapps.cityofchicago.org/gi..._pds/PD883.pdf PD 331 https://gisapps.cityofchicago.org/gi..._pds/PD331.pdf |
Last night's presentation, and all the underlying PD documents and master plans, available here.
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I haven't had a chance to attend the meetings yet but I live in one of the buildings at 18th St and the tracks and the people in my building have been getting their torches ready for this thing for a while now. Given that for the most part I'm in favor of it, I've learned to just stay silent in my building just to maintain some peace.
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(And I'm not saying that's the case - it's possible that the majority of your building is against One Central. But if no one stands for it because it means getting involved in the noise, then nothing gets done. It's why I appreciate when people at community meetings stand up just to voice their approval, without a question or a complaint.) |
Exactly. One of my frustrations with the way we do "public meetings" in this country is that the only people ever heard from are the whiners who already know they hate it. Even if an alderman wants to responsibly represent his constituents, the torchbearers who came to oppose any change will always outshout or even intimidate the folks with open minds. (And—my god, the level of ignorance and misunderstanding always on display.)
I think this particular scheme is utterly bizarre, fiscally irresponsible as a state investment, and makes no sense as a "civic asset"—but I get so frustrated by some of the idiocy I hear at these meetings (my window will be cast into darkness, there might be construction noise, it will kick up carcinogenic dust, strangers might come within sight of my townhouse, waaaaahhhhh) that I sometimes want to go to the microphone and let loose with both barrels. |
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Chicago DPD announced a community meeting on Jan 25th for ONE Central
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