Casinos are inherenly anti-urban and require blank walls, large floorplates, no windows or natural light, no clocks or obvious time-indicators, and no outside distractions. It would be best to put the casino as far from downtown as possible, with the primary objective recovering present losses from Indiana.
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seems like this is all lip service and it goes at mccormick
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seems like this is all lip service and it goes at McCormick
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If it’s in a South Side neighborhood more than 10 minutes’ taxi south of McCormick Place, then no one will go except locals to squander their paychecks. Plain and simple. |
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Also, I'd be really surprised if it went near McCormick Place/Museum Campus. Nothing says kids trip downtown like a visit to the aquarium, Field Museum, oh, and a slots emporium. And someone who attends conferences monthly, I've never heard of colleagues visiting local casinos (plus there's barely any time; if you have a moment from working/networking you nap or catch up on emails). And, unless you're Vegas or Macao, a casino isn't really a visitors attraction; it's for locals. Casinos are everywhere these days. |
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I’m not thinking James Bond when I think of this casino. I’m thinking of the fat dude with a goatee who spends $900 on Blackjack |
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The best you can hope for is balancing appeal to tourists and longtime gamblers, and the Near South Side does that. Sox Park is only five minutes from McCormick Place by cab or Uber, there’s an expressway directly connecting the two. Plus it’s right on top of the Chinese community that heavily patronizes the Indiana casinos currently. |
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I've been to casinos in the middle of Mississippi rice fields to Vegas to the MGM in DC. I prefer the cheaper versions of casinos. MGM has like 50 dollar mins on their tables during off-peak times. Now, on Roulette I spend way more than that on one spin, but its the point. Casinos are like bike lanes. It equally causes people to freak out. I won't dismiss people's concerns, of course, but I think they are overblown. |
The only place this makes sense is in the McCormick Place Lakeside Center. . . the building is already there. . . the transit access, parking hotels and other amenities serving McCormick Place already exist. . . it's sequestered from the rest of the city so that there won't be any spillover negatively impacting the rest of the city. . . seems like a no-brainer to me. . .
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I too have been to lots of casinos all over the country from the Vegas strip to podunk towns. They are definitely NOT a plus for the surrounding area in terms of urbanity and walkability, and they are definitely not classy either. Vegas overcomes that somewhat, but only because of sheer scale and flash. Atlantic City is nowhere close.
I filled out the survey (just once, like the naive innocent I am) on the premise that the casino will be bad for the walkability around it. I say, stick it in a place that will suck up tourists and is accessible on transit for workers, but is away from a neighborhood that could do better than a blank-walled fortress. McCormick sounds good to me. |
Anybody a fan of putting it in Rosemont? Might be a good fit there. McCormick is obviously a good downtown location.
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Zotti says that Chicago should follow the London model. Here's a picture of what the "London model" looks like: London Hippodrome He also says that the Thompson Center "might make a good casino — perhaps a spectacular one." I agree. I also think the block surrounded by Illinois, Rush, Hubbard and Wabash would make a fantastic site. I'd tear down the Realtor's building and widen the Plaza of the Americas (but leave 444 No Michigan). The main pedestrian entrance to the casino would be on the east side, facing the Tribune Tower. With hotel and residential above the casino, this would be a very large project; i.e., easily more than $1 billion. I could go on but I'm getting into fantasy land. |
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My money is on some sort of development that resembles Encore in Boston. |
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