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If I were a benevolent dictator, I'd run a line in a subway alignment from the Harbor/Gaslamp, up 5th or 6th Avenue... all the way up to University or Washington... then turn east toward I-15 or continue into Mission Valley. At Balboa Park, I could imagine a subway station at 6th/Laurel... providing a perfect nice walk into the park and museum area. Subway stations are looking very nice with recent designs. See these flickr images from bigbend700 of the LA Metro Soto station: http://www.flickr.com/photos/3126731...7622097195247/ Soto favorite: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2530/...5c6da2b282.jpg From Flickr, by bigbend700 LA Metro Mariachi station: http://www.flickr.com/photos/3126731...7622201234786/ My Mariachi favorite: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2432/...f6da684032.jpg. From Flickr, by bigbend700 Check out the LA Transportation thread on page 8; here... for more pics of the above. |
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Buy more buses. Problem solved. Class dismissed. |
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For the uninformed, light-rail costs less to operate on a per rider basis than buses.
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Feasibility/costs of rail in comparison to busing
Many on here don't seem to know much about the feasibility/costs of rail in comparison to busing. I work in transit oriented development for projects around the U.S. Here are just a few of the benefits:
1. Rail lines receive more passengers than the bus routes they replace. 2. Rail lines tracks are cheaper to maintain than the roadways they displace. 3. Buses, are susceptible to potholes and height irregularities in the pavement. Rail lines ride on smooth, jointless steel rails that rarely develop bumps. The maintenance is less for rail than replacing shocks/tires on buses. 4. Mapmakers include rail lines lines on their city maps, and almost never put any bus route in ink. New investment follows the lines on the map. TOD is extremely beneficial to bringing in tax dollars to the city. Development will follow a train station, but not a bus stop. Rails don't pick up and move any time soon. Once a rail system is in place, business and investors can count on them for decades. Buses come and go. 5. The upfront costs are higher for rail and higher than buses-but that is more than made up over time in lower operating and maintenance costs. In transit you get what you pay for. 6. Once purchased (albeit at high cost) rail liness are cheaper to maintain and last a whole lot longer (case in point, rail lines discarded in the US in the '40s, have been snapped up by the Yugoslavs, and are still running). Buses have a lifespan of 9-12 years. 7. Rail lines create more walkable streets. |
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I can't tell you how many ties I have been up in Hillcrest and have had too many to drink so I take a taxi home, I wished there were a trolley so that I had an alternative to that. |
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Curitiba's Bus System
Curitiba, Brazil, has a very nice bus system that is recognized by the planning and green community all over the world as a first-class model. The link below to an article is a good read. Plus, just do a Google search on Curitiba.
http://urbanhabitat.org/node/344 |
I work for UCSD's Shuttle Services and it's annoying to work as a dispatcher because we usually have about 5 break down each day lol.
By break down I mean they're still usable but it's recommended to take them off line for repairs. |
Based on my own experiences, the trolley line does feel safer, but by no means was it more dependable then the bus route I take now. They are about the same. Both have long waits at times. Both stop for one reason or another in the middle of rush hour. Both have loons annoying passangers. And if you're going to use transit anywhere in San Diego you have to be willing to give up large amounts of your time to use it. It goes against our instant mobility instincts we as San Diegans are used to with cars.
As for the coaster, its definetly more of a long distance commuter who rides. Your less likely to get a homeless man heading from Old Town to Oceanside then one whos trying to get from North Park to downtown. As to whoever proposes a subway line in this city, I'll be more then willing to pay an extra half-cent tax to get that done. There are only so many carpool lanes you can add to the five and fifteen before there isn't any space between the two freeways left... Can you imagine if all of our major freeways looked like the 5-805 merge? *shutter* |
Imagine if the airport was moved and a large portion of bayfront land was allocated for a stadium and this was built.
http://www.archdaily.com/35207/dalia...-stadium-nbbj/ |
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And yeah yeah, Fusey, the downsides of the downtown trolley segments have been discussed. But regardless, whenever a rail system runs through the core of a city, the density of stations always slow things down. Granted that is not the main issue, but it is one of the reasons. |
Sapphire Tower at night
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From the Top of the Hyatt
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2557/...28644b14bd.jpg |
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Some random ones from the Hillcrest/Mission Hills area:
This one kinda reminds me of the building I live in (Treo). It kinda has a step-like design. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2583/...5e13df0c0b.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3447/...19ba65a5cb.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2568/...4633d42c09.jpg Here's a random little guy that they are just finishing up http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2642/...ff11400130.jpg Don't know the name of these, but I like them http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2667/...2f9a18bc6f.jpg This could be tall, sorry I don't have the name. It's somewhere on 5th. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2205/...fbd1ea5171.jpg This one is called Mis Arbolitos. One unit per floor starting at $1.2 million, I believe. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2449/...869e4334a6.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3423/...fc59031aba.jpg |
The building you referenced on 5th, "could be tall" was foreclosed on over a year ago. Notice all the steel is rusted.
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